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[chibears55]

The Dodgers are trying to cut $100 mil in salaries over the next two years, the Angels are all in but may not have much budget left. Plus he's not taking $22 mil per. He's going to want at least a chance of another payday, whether it's an opt out after 4, an 8 with an opt out at 6, or just a 6 year deal where he has a shot at FA again. He's going to get $25 AAV, it's only the term in question. Say he opts out after 4 and is still a 4 WAR player, with which his skill set is reasonable at 30, he's going to get another huge contract after making $100 mil already. If a team figures at 30 that he's still good for 18 WAR over a 5 year term that's $150-$180 mil in today's numbers with salaries expected to escalate.

I do agree it a liklihood he might prefer a shorter deal, but
I think he or anyone would be a fool to turn down anything close to 10/22 or 10/20 with the thoughts of getting a chance of another big pay day at 31 or 32.. anything negative could happen in 4,5,6 yrs
Plus it not likely he get offered more annually then that at that age..
Id take 22 per for 10 yrs til im 36 and then be happy with half that for 2 or 3 yrs, depending on how my career going..

Dodgers... i believe their salary cut is more of them trying to get rid of older vets, their still gonna spend money. ..

 

[CSF77]

Looks like Price most likely will go to the Red Sox:

The stars are aligning for the Red Sox to sign top free agent David Price, Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe writes. Price, he says, “is the guy they want,” with the club seemingly prepared to top $200MM to get a deal done. We’ve heard previously that rival executives expect Boston to top the market for Price. President of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski will be under pressure not only to get a deal done, says Abraham, but to do so before the organization begins hawking tickets on December 12th (just after the conclusion of the Winter Meetings).

If I had to do a early prediction Price to the Red Sox, Greinke to the Giants. Cueto I'm guessing NYY will make a splash with him as they need a legit ace. That leaves Zimmerman as the next guy. I'd be surprised if the Dodgers don't make an attempt at him at that point. They have to replace Greinke as a 2.

 

[Boobaby1]

Looks like Price most likely will go to the Red Sox:



If I had to do a early prediction Price to the Red Sox, Greinke to the Giants. Cueto I'm guessing NYY will make a splash with him as they need a legit ace. That leaves Zimmerman as the next guy. I'd be surprised if the Dodgers don't make an attempt at him at that point. They have to replace Greinke as a 2.

Look out for the Cardinals signing a big pitcher. I believe they will fly under the radar, and pick up either Cueto or Zimmermann to go along with Wacha, Wainright, and Martinez, which would give them arguably the best staff in baseball.

The Cardinals have a plethora of outfielders, and can fill the positions easily with Holliday, Grichuk, and Piscotty, plus having Jay and Phamm as back-ups, meaning they won't re-sign Heyward and use that money for the pitching staff.

As for the Cubs? I see Shark, a trade for a pitcher, and either Span or Zobrist as a free agent signing and lead-off man, and a little tweaking of the bull pen.

 

[chibears55]

Looks like Price most likely will go to the Red Sox:



If I had to do a early prediction Price to the Red Sox, Greinke to the Giants. Cueto I'm guessing NYY will make a splash with him as they need a legit ace. That leaves Zimmerman as the next guy. I'd be surprised if the Dodgers don't make an attempt at him at that point. They have to replace Greinke as a 2.

So Dombrowski sat and talked to Abraham and told him of his plan and what he willing to spend ?

Not sure why youd want a FA to know your willing to overspend for them and possibly be competing with yourself. .

I just get a kick out of writers, etc.. , acting like they know what going to happen with who and how much teans are going to get and how much their spending. ..

Unless it pretty obvious, we barely see many of these rumors happen...

 

[85Bears]

So Dombrowski sat and talked to Abraham and told him of his plan and what he willing to spend ?

Not sure why youd want a FA to know your willing to overspend for them and possibly be competing with yourself. .

I just get a kick out of writers, etc.. , acting like they know what going to happen with who and how much teans are going to get and how much their spending. ..

Unless it pretty obvious, we barely see many of these rumors happen...

Completely agree. It makes NO sense for any team to even give a whiff of what they are willing to spend for player X unless it's as a smokescreen or possibly a way to drive up a player's value to make another team spend more. If you ARE willing to spend $200 Million or whatever on Price, you call his agent and make the deal. You don't tell the media. Unless, like I said, it's a smokescreen or disinformation.

 

[chibears55]

Completely agree. It makes NO sense for any team to even give a whiff of what they are willing to spend for player X unless it's as a smokescreen or possibly a way to drive up a player's value to make another team spend more. If you ARE willing to spend $200 Million or whatever on Price, you call his agent and make the deal. You don't tell the media. Unless, like I said, it's a smokescreen or disinformation.

Exactly. .
If Price is supposedly the guy they want, then make an offer now.. why wait ?

Offer 6/150 and see who counters or if he accepts
If countered, then up your offer especially if like they say your willing to go over 200 if needed..

Get me why everyone waits til meeting in December to make offers on these guys..

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[jooo83]

Looks like Price most likely will go to the Red Sox:



If I had to do a early prediction Price to the Red Sox, Greinke to the Giants. Cueto I'm guessing NYY will make a splash with him as they need a legit ace. That leaves Zimmerman as the next guy. I'd be surprised if the Dodgers don't make an attempt at him at that point. They have to replace Greinke as a 2.

You consider Cueto to be a legit ace?

 

[85Bears]

Get me why everyone waits til meeting in December to make offers on these guys..

I think part of the reason they may wait is to see how potential trades might shake out before committing to a FA. For instance, maybe you're planning on paying up to $200 Million for Price, but at the winter meetings Oakland makes you a trade offer you can't refuse for Sonny Gray and you decide to go that route instead of signing Price.

That said, of course I still can't see a reason to tip your hand on what you're willing to offer a FA in advance. Unless you're playing mental games with the other GMs.

 

[beckdawg]

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/158170980/5-mlb-trades-that-make-sense

Braves trade RHP Shelby Miller to the Cubs for OF Billy McKinney and C Willson Contreras
The Braves have been the most active dealers over the past few months, so let's close out with one more deal from them.

The Cubs are hunting for a young, mid-rotation starter and should focus on Miller as their guy for a couple of reasons. First, he is entering his first year of arbitration and would be controllable for at least three more seasons. Second, at 25, he continues to improve, and with his heavy fastball-cutter mix, Miller would benefit from being around Jake Arrieta and Jon Lester, two pitchers with a similar repertoire.

McKinney, the Cubs' No. 2 prospect, would become the Braves' best hitting prospect. He reached Double-A at the age of 20 after posting a .976 OPS at Class A Advanced Myrtle Beach, one of the toughest hitting environments in the Minors. Contreras, Chicago's No. 10 prospect, hit .333 at Double-A and would give the Braves long-term depth at a position that continues to give them problems.

It's an interesting idea but I can't see how Contreras fits. Still if you replace him with whomever is of equal value seems fairly reasonable.

 

[CSF77]

You consider Cueto to be a legit ace?

Yes. Him adjusting to the AL should have been expected. He has been an ace for a while now

 

[knoxville7]

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/158170980/5-mlb-trades-that-make-sense



It's an interesting idea but I can't see how Contreras fits. Still if you replace him with whomever is of equal value seems fairly reasonable.

make that trade in a heartbeat if its agreeable on the braves side

 

[Parade_Rain]

make that trade in a heartbeat if its agreeable on the braves side

The article made the comment about the Braves long-term catching solution. Trading Contreras creates the same issue for the Cubs. They can have Baez, if a couple of prospects are what it takes to get Miller.

 

[CSF77]

I think part of the reason they may wait is to see how potential trades might shake out before committing to a FA. For instance, maybe you're planning on paying up to $200 Million for Price, but at the winter meetings Oakland makes you a trade offer you can't refuse for Sonny Gray and you decide to go that route instead of signing Price.

That said, of course I still can't see a reason to tip your hand on what you're willing to offer a FA in advance. Unless you're playing mental games with the other GMs.

Most teams do not want to give up their top prospects

 

[CSF77]

The article made the comment about the Braves long-term catching solution. Trading Contreras creates the same issue for the Cubs. They can have Baez, if a couple of prospects are what it takes to get Miller.

I agree with this.

I would rather sign a F/A. Then trade. So, say the Braves would take McKenny, Hendricks and a 3rd player for Miller. That upgrades Hendricks spot in the rotation from a 5 to a 3. At that point they could sign Kazmir to split up Miller and Hammel. Then that makes a fordamal rotation.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

make that trade in a heartbeat if its agreeable on the braves side

Conteras projects to be the long term answer for the Cubs at C. Why in the world would you trade him?

 

[85Bears]

Most teams do not want to give up their top prospects

Completely not the point. I was hypothetically explaining why a team would wait a while before immediately signing the FA they wanted at the first available opportunity.

 

[CSF77]

Completely not the point. I was hypothetically explaining why a team would wait a while before immediately signing the FA they wanted at the first available opportunity.

I get that but to get Grey a team would have to give up their top prospect to even start a conversation. Prospects have a much higher value right now than in the past. Just looking at the Cubs, Mets, Royals, Astros and Minn who have had high draft picks added to key trades and free agent signings have turned themselves from the first picks to play offs fast.

That is the reality right now. Teams do not want to mortgage their future for now. I.e. Dumping 3 top prospects for a 3 year rental. Play off teams are far more likely to sign a free agent in the off season then rent a expiring deal for less quality players.

Bean was pretty dumb giving that much for Shark and Hammel. I doubt he makes that deal again.

 

[TL1961]

The article made the comment about the Braves long-term catching solution. Trading Contreras creates the same issue for the Cubs. They can have Baez, if a couple of prospects are what it takes to get Miller.

Well, maybe they see Contreras as the long term answer at catcher, if they come to their senses on Schwarber.

But Baez will be the much better player.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Well, maybe they see Contreras as the long term answer at catcher, if they come to their senses on Schwarber.

But Baez will be the much better player.

Baez doesn't catch. He doesn't call pitches or set defenses. Baez hit .294 at Tennessee and Contreras just hit .333 for the Smokies. Your idea of who the "better player" will be is quite interesting to say the least.

 

[chibears55]

Conteras projects to be the long term answer for the Cubs at C. Why in the world would you trade him?

I could see them trading Contreras if he helps net them a young major league starter. .

Contreras being a stud major league catcher is still unknown at this point, and he still 2 seasons away from a call up..
So, there no guarentee now of how he ends up

They can just as easily draft, sign in IFA , or trade for a catching prospect in the next year and just stick with Montero. .

if needed then can always sign or trade for a Catcher for 2018