“THAT” is too much for Watson...

[Anytime23]

Haha, alright bears fans. Those of you not wanting to go aggressive to get Watson.

What is your fix?Jameis Winston? QB 3/4 on the board in this draft?

How many years does Akiem have left? What about the injuries you have seen on the defensive side for JJ and Roquan?

How did Bellichek look without Brady?

How did this stacked Packers team look without Rodgers for a game?

Consider this also. The number of teams offering multiple ones will probably be close to 25+.

Why? Because most teams have been a poverty franchise without QBs.

We can make this even more fun:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/draft.htm

Which of these 1st and 2nd round picks are not worthy of letting go for Watson, let alone picking 20+ in the first round.

Kyle Long more important? Did you like Shea McLellan and Adam Shaheen?

Massive fans of Kevin White and Ego Furgeson?

Those four picks already are in the convo for Watson.

The one thingPace has done well is draft day 3 guys.

I for one at done with mediocrity and you should be too. Your value on draft picks vs an absolute game changer is mind boggling.

Fantastic post. Welcome to the revolution.

 

[Toast88]

Haha, alright bears fans. Those of you not wanting to go aggressive to get Watson.

What is your fix?Jameis Winston? QB 3/4 on the board in this draft?

How many years does Akiem have left? What about the injuries you have seen on the defensive side for JJ and Roquan?

How did Bellichek look without Brady?

How did this stacked Packers team look without Rodgers for a game?

Consider this also. The number of teams offering multiple ones will probably be close to 25+.

Why? Because most teams have been a poverty franchise without QBs.

We can make this even more fun:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/draft.htm

Which of these 1st and 2nd round picks are not worthy of letting go for Watson, let alone picking 20+ in the first round.

Kyle Long more important? Did you like Shea McLellan and Adam Shaheen?

Massive fans of Kevin White and Ego Furgeson?

Those four picks already are in the convo for Watson.

The one thingPace has done well is draft day 3 guys.

I for one at done with mediocrity and you should be too. Your value on draft picks vs an absolute game changer is mind boggling.

Can I "like" this 50 times?

 

[Dejo]

Hmmm

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356270337458139143

For the record I would feel differently if we had the #1 overall pick. I would still trade that one pick for him plus maybe a player or two but at 20, gimme a break.

 

[modo]

To be set at QB for 12 years you make the trade

 

[Montucky]

We know he is.

Which of his four wins last year was most impressive?

 

[Montucky]

Hmmm

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356270337458139143

For the record I would feel differently if we had the #1 overall pick. I would still trade that one pick for him plus maybe a player or two but at 20, gimme a break.

The irony here is of course that a first round pick the Rams themselves made is the only reason their defense is as good as it is.

 

[BradyJay]

Someone remind me why Watson would even want to play in Chi? ....a team that passed on him to take Mitch Trubisky?

 

[Bearly]

I think he meant at the quarterback position.

I don't think anyone's arguing that the quarterback can do everything on his own, just that it's the most important piece that's also the most difficult to get. I think most acknowledge that, yes, giving up picks is going to make your job harder in terms of surrounding the quarterback with talent, but that it would be worth it to have the best and most-difficult-to-find piece.

For the most part, the Bears have never had an issue finding talented corners and linebackers and running backs, etc. There's only one position they've had decades of futility with.

Yes, that's what Houston thought at the QB position. It's not a don't get Watson post but nothing is assured once acquired. Injuries can happen as well. You hope that you draft or acquire a decade plus QB but the future is not set.

Including Brady and Gronk, Belichick lost 8 starters to start the year and finished 7-9 with a leftover QB (Houston, 4-12 with Watson) so the how without Brady crap in respect to Watson being able to completely change a teams outcome needs to stop. The 2020 as an example of both doesn't add up.

All that said, get Watson if you can.

Lets just be realistic about what it will take and potential results.

 

[Dejo]

The irony here is of course that a first round pick the Rams themselves made is the only reason their defense is as good as it is.

Ramsey hasn’t helped at all, or Talib prior to that, or Peters. Alol of which required picks and $$.

Donald is great but they make this trade with or without him.

 

[Dejo]

Someone remind me why Watson would even want to play in Chi? ....a team that passed on him to take Mitch Trubisky?

If Bears give up a ton I think he will feel the love. Shefter even said that is a non-issue with Watson.

 

[DrGonzo]

Good NFL teams build mainly through the draft and selectively through FA. Shitty teams trade away all their high picks

 

[Montucky]

Ramsey hasn’t helped at all, or Talib prior to that, or Peters. Alol of which required picks and $$.

Donald is great but they make this trade with or without him.

Jalen Ramsey was drafted fifth overall. Aqib Talib was drafted twentieth overall. Marcus Peters was drafted eighteenth overall. All of them first rounds picks just like Aaron Donald. Are you noticing a theme here?

 

[DammitFullerTurnUrHead!]

Good NFL teams build mainly through the draft and selectively through FA. Shitty teams trade away all their high picks

Like which teams? Seems to me that it’s the same shitty teams with high picks every year . Last year there were 7 teams without a 1st rd pick. 5 of those teams made the playoffs this year. In 2019 there were 5 teams without a 1st rd pick, 4 of whom made the playoffs this year. I see this said a lot, but there’s little to no recent evidence to back it up.

 

[Dejo]

Jalen Ramsey was drafted fifth overall. Aqib Talib was drafted twentieth overall. Marcus Peters was drafted eighteenth overall. All of them first rounds picks just like Aaron Donald. Are you noticing a theme here?

Yup, those seem to be higher than the picks the Bears would give up.

Isnt it weird that the Rams gave up multiple picks to get these guys because they are proven vs drafting their own?

For the record. I would love for the Bears to have 25 draft picks every year and build a deep team. Those 25 picks still do not guarantee you get QB right.

In all seriousness, look at the last 10 years of QB drafts and tell me you would feel confident with building with this current team, perhaps accruing some terrible seasons as the D gets older / traded and hope you get it right again, only to be back at square one and wishing you traded for that one guy you could have continuously built around, even if it takes a few years to get all of the tools back at your disposal.

That is a good problem to have vs whatever hell the Bears have been in the last few decades.

Dante’s Inferno left out the purgatory layer that is Bears QBs.

 

[Montucky]

Like which teams? Seems to me that it’s the same shitty teams with high picks every year . Last year there were 7 teams without a 1st rd pick. 5 of those teams made the playoffs this year. In 2019 there were 5 teams without a 1st rd pick, 4 of whom made the playoffs this year. I see this said a lot, but there’s little to no recent evidence to back it up.

Where would the Bucs be if they didn't have Devin White, Tristan Wirfs and Via Vea?

 

[Dejo]

Where would the Bucs be if they didn't have Devin White, Tristan Wirfs and Via Vea?

Vea was injured most of season and probably still in the playoffs / SB. What changed for that team? Brady? Can’t be the reason.

 

[DammitFullerTurnUrHead!]

Where would the Bucs be if they didn't have Devin White, Tristan Wirfs and Via Vea?

Depends, who’s playing QB? Because they drafted Vea two years ago and White last year, yet they didn’t make the playoffs until this year..you know....when they got a good QB

 

[Montucky]

Yup, those seem to be higher than the picks the Bears would give up.

Isnt it weird that the Rams gave up multiple picks to get these guys because they are proven vs drafting their own?

For the record. I would love for the Bears to have 25 draft picks every year and build a deep team. Those 25 picks still do not guarantee you get QB right.

In all seriousness, look at the last 10 years of QB drafts and tell me you would feel confident with building with this current team, perhaps accruing some terrible seasons as the D gets older / traded and hope you get it right again, only to be back at square one and wishing you traded for that one guy you could have continuously built around, even if it takes a few years to get all of the tools back at your disposal.

That is a good problem to have vs whatever hell the Bears have been in the last few decades.

Dante’s Inferno left out the purgatory layer that is Bears QBs.

I would rather go through the normal competitive cycle of NFL ups-and-downs that go for a ride with Deshaun Watson winning between four and seven games ever year because the defense is routinely one of the NFL's worst. Because obviously if the Bears were to pull this trade off it would be the immediate Watson appeasement tour where what scraps of draft capital and cap space is left would just go towards obsolete veterans.

All this for a guy with zero loyalty? Who will certainly do to the Bears what he did to the Texans after he has a couple six win seasons in Chicago? No thanks, I just want no part of this obvious disaster.

 

[Montucky]

Vea was injured most of season and probably still in the playoffs / SB. What changed for that team? Brady? Can’t be the reason.

Vea came back last week and played in half the snaps. Made a pretty big impact on the game. Devin White so far is the postseason MVP (well, at least of the NFC) to anyone who is paying even paying some attention to the games. Tristan Wirfs is an elite level offensive tackle making a third of what a veteran option would cost.

 

[Dejo]

Vea came back last week and played in half the snaps. Made a pretty big impact on the game. Devin White so far is the postseason MVP (well, at least of the NFC) to anyone who is paying even paying some attention to the games. Tristan Wirfs is an elite level offensive tackle making a third of what a veteran option would cost.

Khalil showed him what elite means. Does Brady getting rid of it quick mean anything for the rookie?