1994 Bulls vs 2011 Bulls in 7 game series

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I think people are listening to these biased sports analyst too much who want nothing more than to diminish the Bulls titles in the 90's.
 

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i would say he was best in my eyes, he was smarter then those players. playoffs, 93, 96, 97 and 98 finals showed us why

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i would say he was best in my eyes, he was smarter then those players. playoffs, 93, 96, 97 and 98 finals showed us why

He was NOT smarter than Hakeem. And you don't have anything to base that on. Smarter this... smarter that... that is all subjective. Those players were either flat out monsters down-low or way more skilled than Pippen was. Not as VASTLY skilled but they had bigger weapons in their artillery.

Hakeem was the best player in the NBA EASILY when Jordan was gone.
 

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I think people are listening to these biased sports analyst too much who want nothing more than to diminish the Bulls titles in the 90's.

The Bulls in the 90s were my life. I love Scottie Pippen to death and Jordan is my hero. Common basketball knowledge and not looking at things through homer lenses doesn't make me any less of a Bulls' fan.
 

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Horace Grant was a very under-appreciated player. He brought rebounding, interior defense, very good post scoring, a mid-range jumper, and pick and roll offense to the Bulls.

To say that Kukoc was Pippen's 2nd best scorer in 1994 shows you don't know much about that team at all.

BJ armstrong was also an all star that year


I wouldn't say Pippen was better than Olajuwon, Malone, Barkley, Ewing, Robinson, Stockton, or Gary Payton in 1994.

olajuwon was definitely better and arguably robinson...pippen was overall a more balanced better player than stockton...also better than malone and payton imo....

i think he was 3rd best behind robinson and olajuwon...although thats jmo

although i think many here are slightly overrating him...pippen was a fantastic all around player..versatile,great rebounder and passer,etc.

pippen was definitely a major reason for the bulls winning 55 games
 
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He was NOT smarter than Hakeem. And you don't have anything to base that on. Smarter this... smarter that... that is all subjective. Those players were either flat out monsters down-low or way more skilled than Pippen was. Not as VASTLY skilled but they had bigger weapons in their artillery.

Hakeem was the best player in the NBA EASILY when Jordan was gone.

watch the games and you will get the answer ))))
 

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Yep. That goes to show 97 for saying Kukoc was Pippen's #2... c'mon

Kukoc was the best clutch option for that team, B.J. was the team's best guard. He also hit some big shots for them and led the league in 3pt shooting that year. He also had an outstanding postseason that year.
 

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olajuwon was definitely better and arguably robinson...pippen was overall a more balanced better player than stockton...also better than malone and payton imo....

i think he was 3rd best behind robinson and olajuwon...although thats jmo

although i think many here are slightly overrating him...pippen was a fantastic all around player..versatile,great rebounder and passer,etc.

pippen was definitely a major reason for the bulls winning 55 games

I think Stockton was a little bit better than Pippen until the later 90s when Stock lost a big step. Bulls' fans really don't realize how old Stockton was in the 97 and 98 Finals... he used to be a Steve Nash like scorer (not that good but with a higher concentration of high-percentage shots). He was a better on-ball defender than Pippen and so was Gary Payton. GP was an unbelievable play-maker for himself and others. Ewing, Barkley, and Robinson were all light years ahead of Pippen in terms of scoring and rebounding. Barkley was a very mediocre defender but he wasn't a piss poor one either like a lot of people would have you believe. Not to mention Shaq... his rookie season was probably better than Pippen's 1994 season in all honesty. And he was still a raw talent back then too.
 

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i watched some games from 97 jazz - rockets and how utah defended exellent against hakeem so he did nothing on offensive end

Hakeem and Stockton in '97 were shells of their late '80s and early 90's selves.
 

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I think Stockton was a little bit better than Pippen until the later 90s when Stock lost a big step. Bulls' fans really don't realize how old Stockton was in the 97 and 98 Finals... he used to be a Steve Nash like scorer (not that good but with a higher concentration of high-percentage shots). He was a better on-ball defender than Pippen and so was Gary Payton. GP was an unbelievable play-maker for himself and others. Ewing, Barkley, and Robinson were all light years ahead of Pippen in terms of scoring and rebounding. Barkley was a very mediocre defender but he wasn't a piss poor one either like a lot of people would have you believe. Not to mention Shaq... his rookie season was probably better than Pippen's 1994 season in all honesty. And he was still a raw talent back then too.

I would put Pippen above any of those guys defensively. Pippen could guard 4 positions adeptly. Pippen was good offensively but he was not great like the other players named. But I think he was the best perimeter defender of that era, and maybe any era. I just think he wasn't good in the clutch and couldn't be depended on that much. When you think of clutch players...Scottie NEVER comes up in conversation.
 

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I would put Pippen above any of those guys defensively. Pippen could guard 4 positions adeptly. Pippen was good offensively but he was not great like the other players named. But I think he was the best perimeter defender of that era, and maybe any era. I just think he wasn't good in the clutch and couldn't be depended on that much. When you think of clutch players...Scottie NEVER comes up in conversation.

Scottie was undoubtedly the best wing defender of that era but guys like Mookie Blaylock, Gary Payton, Joe Dumars, Lindsey Hunter, and John Stockton were the best in terms of staying in front of the player handling the basketball. Pippen could also guard all 5 positions (unless Shaq, Ewing, Hakeem, or Robinson was at C that night). I'll never take that away from him. But yeah... I'll give the edge to

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Ewing... Stock... GP... Chuck... Robinson... even a raw Shaq in '94 all over Pippen.
 

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I think Stockton was a little bit better than Pippen until the later 90s when Stock lost a big step. Bulls' fans really don't realize how old Stockton was in the 97 and 98 Finals... he used to be a Steve Nash like scorer (not that good but with a higher concentration of high-percentage shots). He was a better on-ball defender than Pippen and so was Gary Payton. GP was an unbelievable play-maker for himself and others. Ewing, Barkley, and Robinson were all light years ahead of Pippen in terms of scoring and rebounding. Barkley was a very mediocre defender but he wasn't a piss poor one either like a lot of people would have you believe. Not to mention Shaq... his rookie season was probably better than Pippen's 1994 season in all honesty. And he was still a raw talent back then too.

Shaq was very young and raw....stockton was a great passer but he did benefit alot from having good options on his team but his offense was rather subpar imo.....his defense was good but i dont think it was nearly as good overall as payton or pippen(comparing apples and oranges but still)...ewing,barkley,and robinson were better rebounders because they were big post guys(except for barkley who was the best at timing and blocking out imo)....pippen averaged almost 9 rebounds which is pretty good for a wing guy and 6 assists..his all around game was very good...but you are right..what sets him apart from being the best is that his offensive game(scoring wise) was never great even as a #1 option..(btw barkley's defense was pretty :turrible: his defensive rating was in the high 100s..which for a big man(d rating is a little inflated for post guys) is not very good)
 

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I would put Pippen above any of those guys defensively. Pippen could guard 4 positions adeptly. Pippen was good offensively but he was not great like the other players named. But I think he was the best perimeter defender of that era, and maybe any era. I just think he wasn't good in the clutch and couldn't be depended on that much. When you think of clutch players...Scottie NEVER comes up in conversation.

I agree Pippen was exceptional defensively. But offensively at times he was hit or miss. But was still a great player in his own right.
 

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Even in 1994, Pippen may have been the best scorer on the team but he never really was comfortable in that role. He wanted to pass to the open shooter or dish it off to Grant as option number 1a/b. Him scoring was option 2. He wasn't an anti-clutch player at all on offense. He just wasn't that great of a scorer. His handle was nowhere near Jordan's and he had no consistent jumper. He wasn't nearly as strong as Jordan either. He had length to dunk over a few people and leaping ability but not the post moves or shear penetrating ability. Just a flurry of spin moves and a mid-range hook.
 
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