1994 Bulls vs 2011 Bulls in 7 game series

[97Bulls]

hmmm thats interesting:

Just shows how much of a joke what if sports is.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

What have I specifically said that underrates Scottie Pippen? Nothing.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

The 2010-11 Bulls win under modern rules.

The 1993-94 Bulls win under pre-1999 rules.

 

[Glide2keva]

I think what you're doing is conflicting style with ability. When you say his offensive game wasn't good enough, good enough for what? To lead the league in scoring? Fine. To lead a team to a championship? I beg to differ. There been plenty of guys that were not super scorers, but lead their teams to championships. Look at Magic, Kareem was the number 1 option, then later worthy. Ben Wallace was the best player on the 04 pistons, Garnett with the 08 Celtics. Bill Russell. Its just a style.

Dominique Wilkins was a better scorer than Magic, but Magic is considered a better player.

Bill Russell used to whip Wilt Chamberlain's ass every year. And this doesn't just hold true for basketball.

Who's better between Tom Brady, who doesn't have a canon for an arm but is versatile, and Warren Moon who could throw the ball 80 yards?

How about Greg Maddux who wasn't gonna over power you, but had a variety of pitches, and Nolan Ryan. Who had a 100 mile an hour fast ball.

Who would be considered the better scorer in boxing terms Mohammad Ali or Mike Tyson?

See what I mean? So to say Pippen wasn't a great scorer is meaningless. He was a great player.

But that's just it, if he wasn't overpowering, he wasn't as great as advertised, and that's how a lot of these people think.

 

[Glide2keva]

What have I specifically said that underrates Scottie Pippen? Nothing.

Saying Kukoc was a million times more clutch than Pippen when Kukoc was terrible defensively is underrating him.

 

[Glide2keva]

The 2010-11 Bulls win under modern rules.

The 1993-94 Bulls win under pre-1999 rules.

No, this Bulls team doesn't the 94 team under any rules.

This is my favorite Bulls team outside of the 91 team and 92 teams and I know they would come up short against them.

 

[nwfisch]

But what scottiepippen1994 and 97bulls are saying is Pippen>>>>Olajuwon and everyone else.

That is WRONG

 

[Glide2keva]

But what scottiepippen1994 and 97bulls are saying is Pippen>>>>Olajuwon and everyone else.

That is WRONG

I don't think 97 Bulls is saying that. SP94 on the other hand, I can't speak for.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I think what your doing is conflicting style with ability. When you say his offensive game wasn't good enough, good enough for what? To lead the league in scoring? Fine. To lead a team to a championship? I beg to differ. There been plent of guys that were super scorers but lead their teams to championships. Look at magic. Kareem was the number 1 option. Then later worthy. Ben wallace was the best player on the 04 pistons, garnett with the 08 celtics. Bill russell. Its just a style.

Dominique wilkins was a better scorer than magic but magic is considered a better player.

Bill russell used to whip wilt chamberlains ass every year. And this doesn't just hold true for basketball

Who's better between tom brady who doesn't have a canon for an arm but is versitle, and warren moon who could throw the ball 80 yards?

How bout greg maddox who wasn't gonna over power you, but had a variety of pitches, and nolan ryan. Who had a 100 mile an hour fast ball.

Who would be considered the better scorer in boxing terms muhommed ali or mike tyson?

See what I mean? So to say pippen wasn't a great scorer is meaningless. He was a great player.

although it may be unfathomable to you:

A.The team with the best player in the NBA does not always win the title...Lebron was the best player this year but dirk won the title that doesnt make dirk the best player all of the sudden. In the original argument(whoever the hell started this crap) someone said that Pippen was the best player in the NBA..and i argued he never was even at his peak because he wasnt that great of an offensive player...kevin garnett was not the best player in the league in 08..im not arguing overall career greatness...im arguing was he ever the top player in the league and the answer is no....because as a player he was good but not great offensively

B.You're arguing overall career greatness...the thing is we have no idea how pippen would have done by himself for a long duration..we can speculate for hours..but you're never going to know exactly...yes titles is a huge part of greatness..but being the best player in the NBA correlates to MVPs and not necessarily titles(TEAM wins rather than individual) and overall career greatness

i know scoring is not the most important thing in sports....thanks for the reminder...did you come here also to tell me we landed on the moon?

but he was never the best player in the NBA..which is what the argument was about..even at his best in 93-94 and as the leader of his team he was not the best player in the nba...or he would have won the MVP

 

[nwfisch]

And to make matters worse Scottiepippen1994 says Pippen was better than Jordan

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

And to make matters worse Scottiepippen1994 says Pippen was better than Jordan

because he's a troll


cmon no one's that stupid....

 

[Glide2keva]

And to make matters worse Scottiepippen1994 says Pippen was better than Jordan

Well, he's trolling. What do you expect?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Saying Kukoc was a million times more clutch than Pippen when Kukoc was terrible defensively is underrating him.

Clutch refers mostly to offense. Don't be so vague and you won't be confused next time.

Kukoc had the most deadly half-court weapon of any player on the '94 Bulls. Therefore he is a million times more clutch than Pippen on offense.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

If I really had to choose which team was better I'd say the 1994 Bulls but not in a landslide.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I'd rather compare REAL elite teams like the 2008 Celtics to the 1986 Celtics.

 

[Glide2keva]

I'd rather compare REAL elite teams like the 2008 Celtics to the 1986 Celtics.

Since this is a Bulls forum, it's appropriate to compare different Bulls teams.

Save those comparisons for an NBA forum.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Since this is a Bulls forum, it's appropriate to compare different Bulls teams.

Save those comparisons for an NBA forum.

Yeah I get that. I just got tired of SP94 bumping his same topics over and over again. It's always about Pippen or it's about the savior J.R.....

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Hell even the 1998 Bulls to the '87 Lakers would be good. I just don't want to talk about Pippen being the MVP of '94 anymore... or about the Bulls teams that just couldn't get over the hump. I'd rather talk about the Jordan teams. That's just me.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Clutch refers mostly to offense. Don't be so vague and you won't be confused next time.

Kukoc had the most deadly half-court weapon of any player on the '94 Bulls. Therefore he is a million times more clutch than Pippen on offense.

ehhhhh clutch can also refer to performing well defensively under pressure as well..in general clutch is performance under pressure..although there are alot of different connotations

i do agree that we tend to associate clutch with playmaking and shot making on the offensive end..but being clutch on the defensive end is also important(as i think pippen was)

 

[97Bulls]

I don't think 97 Bulls is saying that. SP94 on the other hand, I can't speak for.

Lol thanx for clearing that up for him.