2013-14 NHL Season Discussion

[CLWolf81]

Agreed. Should be 3. Likely will be 2.</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

The Avs announcer made some pretty fucked up comments. "Kronwall getting a taste of his own medicine".

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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The Avs announcer made some pretty fucked up comments. "Kronwall getting a taste of his own medicine".</p></blockquote>
Well he kind of did. Announcer still shouldn't have gone there.

A lot of his hits are "clean" but he plays so close to that edge that they are either going to be clean or a 5+ game suspension.

 

[xatruio]

to me it seemed a bit of an accident. Sure you have to slow up and respect the backside near the boards, but wtf was Kronwall doing trying to turn ona dime into literally a space of about one foot in the corner? McLeod could have not been going so fast, but also Kronwall basically just turned into him. Am i off base here? Why reverse into such a tight corner like he did? McLeod i dont think was going for a hit he was expecting to chase around the net based on his skating path and also his reaction to running into Kronwall; no?

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ok, on a fresh viewing McLeod didnt seem to be skating to chase behind the net but i still think the hit was somewhat incidental and not intent, plus wheres the onus on Kronwall to not make such a bone headed evasive maneuver? There was virtually zero daylight in the space he was attempting to squeeze through... against the grain and back into the forechecking defender.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

It's one of the first brings you are taught during a checking clinic as a youth. You need to learn to protect yourself along the boards and never turn your back that close to the boards.


In my opinion, Kronwall should share some of the blame, but McLeod was gonna plow through the numbers regardless.

 

[Shantz My Pants]

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Well he kind of did. Announcer still shouldn't have gone there.


A lot of his hits are "clean" but he plays so close to that edge that they are either going to be clean or a 5+ game suspension.</p></blockquote>
Kronwall outside of the Havlat hit usually is clean, he just catches guys with their heads down which makes it worse.


Again, I can't believe how many guys throw suicide passes and the receiver has his head away from the oncoming play, especially with the game faster than ever.


I remember licking my chops when a guy had his head down. Shit, that's what killed Lindros's career.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Selanne!!

Only 23 left!

#700FORTEEMU!!

 

[CLWolf81]

If there was ever a reason to get rid of the extra point for an OT Loss, there couldn't be a reason better than in the Metro Division right now....</p>


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New Jersey    0-4-3    3</p>


Philadelphia   1-7-0    2 </p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I hope Crosby gets 10 points today against the Canucks.

Man I feel like an asshole saying that!!!

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Well there's 1 goal already... GO SID GO!!

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

GO SID GO!!

2 points already!!

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Woo!!

3 points for Crosby!!!

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

So... Mike Smith scored a goal yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB6TEDp94-k

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

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So... Mike Smith scored a goal yesterday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB6TEDp94-k</p>
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That should be an inspiration to everyone. Not because he scored but because earlier in the game he was hit during play and laid face down on the ice motionless for a moment, but ended up being ok to finish the game.</p>


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<span style="color:#800080;"><span style="font-size:8px;">PURPLE</span></span></p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

TEEMU!!!

22 left!!

#700FORTEEMU

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Garbutt is going away for a long time.

What a disgusting hit on Penner.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b8ioeqm9IE

 

[JOVE23]

Left his feet, blindside hit, to the head.</p>


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That's the trifecta of douchebaggery</p>

 

[LordKOTL]

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I didn't say it would though. That's never been the argument. My post was talking about stricter discipline by the league for dirty/cheap hits. The better argument for getting rid of fighting is simply because it doesn't do anything  and you only ever have something to lose, nothing to gain. As you said it doesn't affect the dirty players in deterring them. So why would the league willingly contribute to potential further head trauma for players for no good reason while, at the same time, talk about how serious they want to take that issue? Until they disallow that from happening, they're being massive hypocrites. The amount of concussions is never going to equal what you get from hits, just because of the sheer amount of hits vs. fights, but the percentages are higher you get it from a fight rather than a hit.</p>


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Rest of the post besides the suspension being as long as the injured player is out I can agree with. Especially on the neutral doctor point. That should exist for everything, not just head injuries. Never liked the idea of team appointed doctors in any sport.</p>
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I don't agree with the "doesn't do anything."  We're human and blodthrisrty creatures by nature, no matter what the Kumbaya Coalition wants you to believe and there is the need for revenge and retribution that, when cashed in, will naturally lift the spirits of anyone.  My wife is the real expert, but when you get charged emotionally, you can push yourself a bit further and in the established culture of hockey, a good fight (i.e., not staged and in the heat of the moment) can push a team positively.</p>


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Should that be at the expense of players' long term health?  Of couse not, but IMHO cheap plays like we've seen on the last 2 plages of this thread are much more of a danger to the long-term health of the players than a fight.  And, if there's a slight chance that a fight would stop a Maxime Lapierre, Raffi Torres, or Matt Cooke (especially the fight between Cooke and E. Kane) from cheapshotting a player for a few games because they're concussed, thats not a bad thing.  Ultimately, it goes back to the leage not pussyfotting about suspensions for cheap play.</p>


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And as for Team Doctors, I don't think that they are a bad idea. A team doctor should know the ins-and-outs of each player, their medical history, etc. and as such, are a good think in the long run.  However, when it comes to dealing with the severity of an injury or clearing someone to play, a neutral doctor should make the call.</p>

 

[CLWolf81]

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Left his feet, blindside hit, to the head.</p>


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That's the trifecta of douchebaggery</p>
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I don't think he's a repeat offender, though.... is he?


2 games if not. 5 games if so.</p>