2015-2016 Blackhawks Off season thread

[PatrickShart]

20g in 4 seasons isn't a bullshit stat. It was fact that he has done that. What's bullshit about that?

Typical Special person

 

[Ton]

20g in 4 seasons isn't a bullshit stat. It was fact that he has done that. What's bullshit about that?

Typical Special person

...omg

Can you read?

Where did I mention that the 20 goals "stat" was bullshit? I literally just explained to you what I thought was bullshit.

 

[PatrickShart]

So I guess Kane is only a 60-70 pt player...and not considered a PPG player, since he misses games too

 

[PatrickShart]

He's only hit 40+ points 3 times in his career (2 times were 50+)... the rest are around 30 or under. He also has hit 20+ only 3 times in 8 years.

To me, that's not average, that's his ceiling.

Regardless, he needs to stay healthy. I think he has grown as a useful player that you can plug anywhere in the lineup, but I'm not expecting 50 points out of him. In his entire career, he has never played a full season.

Maybe there?

 

[Ton]

So I guess Kane is only a 60-70 pt player...and not considered a PPG player, since he misses games too

You can still be a PPG, and only score 60-70 points a year if you only play 60-70 games per year. Are you trolling or really that stupid?

 

[Ton]

Maybe there?

Yes Shart, we already got over that hump 2 pages ago. Welcome to page 23.

Also, where did I say that it was "bullshit"... I don't read anything like that... I do see a fat finger in there. Congratulations, man, you really nailed me.

 

[PatrickShart]

Ah...ok. I'll be sure to recognize hot dog finger type next time.

 

[PatrickShart]

I'm not arguing that lol... I said he needs to stay healthy, which has been a challenge for him. Never played a full season in his whole career, if he did he would probably hit around 45-55 points, maybe even 60 with Sharp, Saad, and soon to be Bickell being gone and getting that top line time.

It's hard to count on him for 48 points when he isn't in the lineup for a full year. You gonna pull out some other BS stat to refute that?

Is that you calling it a BS stat or did Special person fingers take over there too?

 

[Ton]

Is that you calling it a BS stat or did Special person fingers take over there too?

Dude... do you not remember two minutes ago when I told you what I was referring to? Literally, in that previous sentence right there it even gives you a clue.

I wasn't talking about the 20 goals. That had nothing to do with it. Tell your nurse to help you re-read this post on page 22 so you can catch up.

 

[PatrickShart]

And he avg .58ppg

Yes, he had the 2yrs he missed after blowing out his knee/lockout year.

In the other 6, yes, he never played a full season.

He played 432 in the other yrs - (72 game avg)
At .58ppg - 42pts a season avg during those other years. Which is still better than the 30pt claim.

Or are those bullshit stats based on something too? And wipe the grease off your fingers when you type this time so you can't make other claims.

 

[Ton]

And he avg .58ppg

Yes, he had the 2yrs he missed after blowing out his knee/lockout year.

In the other 6, yes, he never played a full season.

He played 432 in the other yrs - (72 game avg)
At .58ppg - 42pts a season avg during those other years. Which is still better than the 30pt claim.

Or are those bullshit stats based on something too? And wipe the grease off your fingers when you type this time so you can't make other claims.

So now you get to pick and choose which years you count and don't count?

Just count them all. What is the total?

 

[PatrickShart]

You know what, I've been completely wrong.

He's only been in the league 7 years, not 8

He's had 4 - 20g seasons in 7 years.

Out of a possible 540 gms, he's played in 473 - 88%

That's an avg of 72gms a year in his career.

Continuing on that....with his PPG avg of .58 ....he'd avg 42pts per year.

Now....what about any of that is BS?

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Basically, if Versteeg plays a full 82, his stats would average to about 48 points per season.
Not bad for the cap hit.

 

[Ton]

So 76%...

So he's averaged 62 games per year... bring in the point average now... 36 points per year.

If he plays a full year... 48 points.

 

[PatrickShart]

So 76%...

So he's averaged 62 games per year... bring in the point average now... 36 points per year.

If he plays a full year... 48 points.

Where do you get 76%?

 

[Ton]

You know what, I've been completely wrong.

He's only been in the league 7 years, not 8

He's had 4 - 20g seasons in 7 years.

Out of a possible 540 gms, he's played in 473 - 88%

That's an avg of 72gms a year in his career.

Continuing on that....with his PPG avg of .58 ....he'd avg 42pts per year.

Now....what about any of that is BS?

I still see 8 years.

He's been in the NHL since 07-08... 07-08, 08-09, 09-10, 10-11, 11-12, 12-13, 13-14, 14-15.

Either way, you put those numbers together you get around 36 points. If you decide to remove the years where he had major injuries, it's 42 points (or whatever you said)... if you want to project through a full season, 48 points.

To me, that's not bullshit when you put it together and it paints a better picture of what is possible... of course, the numbers have to be accurate.

To be fair, I think Versteeg is better than a 30 point per year player, but I don't blame anyone that sees him that way. If he's healthy, he can provide more, and can potentially provide 20+ goals and 50 points or more.

 

[PatrickShart]

07-08 he was called up for 13 games - while playing 56in the AHL. So that counts as a full NHL season where he missed games? Ok

 

[Ton]

07-08 he was called up for 13 games - while playing 56in the AHL. So that counts as a full NHL season where he missed games? Ok

He should of made it sooner.

 

[italianbeef]

He's had 4 - 20g seasons in 7 years.

None in the last three seasons.

 

[italianbeef]

Basically, if Versteeg plays a full 82, his stats would average to about 48 points per season.
Not bad for the cap hit.

The next time he plays a full 82 will be the first.