2015 cubs in season trades

[TL1961]

So how would this go over with the fan base?

Trade for Hamels. Send Soler, Vogelbach and a pitcher.

Baez moves to 3B, Bryant to RF. Schwarber to LF after Montero gets back.

Thoughts?

I dont want to trade Soler now but the end result of that wouldnt suck.
But baez and russell are your MI.

 

[chibears55]

@mlbdailydish: Pedro Alvarez really doesn't want to get traded apparently. He's hit two home runs since it was reported that PIT was shopping him.

This would be an interesting move for the cubs if they want to move Bryant to LF..

 

[chibears55]

@EvanPetzold: #Cubs signed LHP Ryan Buchter to a minor league contract, according to @DWolfsonKSTP. #MiLB #MLB

 

[CSF77]

@EvanPetzold: #Cubs signed LHP Ryan Buchter to a minor league contract, according to @DWolfsonKSTP. #MiLB #MLB

10 year minor league player. Outstanding.

 

[chibears55]

10 year minor league player. Outstanding.

Think they just needed to add depth to their Iowa roster

 

[Diehardfan]

@EvanPetzold: #Cubs signed LHP Ryan Buchter to a minor league contract, according to @DWolfsonKSTP. #MiLB #MLB

Well, we're home free now......

:cubspalm:

 

[Parade_Rain]

I wont belabor the point here but Schwarber to 3B sounds as unrealistic as Bryant to CF to me. I can't think of anyone other than Brandon Inge who went from C to 3B. It's not a very common transition.

Didn't Johnny Bench play 3B when not catching?

 

[TL1961]

Didn't Johnny Bench play 3B when not catching?

Yes at the very tail end of his career he played 3rd and 1st.

 

[chibears55]

Yovanni golardo might be a cheaper prospect rental they could consider if nothing else works out..

In particular with Price and getting him to commit to an extension. ..

 

[CSF77]

Yovanni golardo might be a cheaper prospect rental they could consider if nothing else works out..

In particular with Price and getting him to commit to an extension. ..

I'm honestly thinking Jed with hold the deck.

Chicago has been linked to such potential trade targets as starting pitchers David Price, Mat Latos, Mike Leake and Cole Hamels. Hoyer would not comment on specific names.
"Right now, our focus is to find the best fit for us," Hoyer said.
The other issue for the Cubs is the offense, or a lack of it. The team was batting .222 in July entering Friday, hitting just 10 home runs.
"We have a lot of confidence in those guys," Hoyer said. "We've been in a team-wide slump for quite a while, and I'm actually very impressed with our ability to win games even though we're not scoring runs. It says a lot about the pitching staff and the bullpen.
"We're going to have to score more ultimately to get where we want to go, there's no question. Offensively, we could make an addition, but I think the real solutions are within. We need to get our own players to play as they did at the beginning of the season, or how their careers indicate they can play."

"The thought process is the only way to win a World Series is to play in October," Hoyer said. "I think that's our mindset. Obviously, there are a lot of games between us and a couple teams above us. Can we chase those teams down? Yeah, if we play exceptionally well. Ultimately, the Giants and Royals showed [last year] you have to get in the tournament to win."

So they are not trying to chase down Pit for the 1st spot. They are trying to hold the 2nd spot. So from a O point of view they have to start hitting to their potential. Do not expect an add here. Pitching they added depth in Britton. Wada has been in rehab for near a month. I'm expecting to see them call him back up. That puts the rotation where it was with Richard and Britton as injury depth in AAA.

O wise Baez is close to getting back. He is 2 for 6 over 2 games in Azl. I'm expecting him up in Iowa by Monday. At that point I'll bet they make a decision to promote him and move Herrera off of the 25 man. That is when things get interesting.

 

[chibears55]

I'm honestly thinking Jed with hold the deck.





So they are not trying to chase down Pit for the 1st spot. They are trying to hold the 2nd spot. So from a O point of view they have to start hitting to their potential. Do not expect an add here. Pitching they added depth in Britton. Wada has been in rehab for near a month. I'm expecting to see them call him back up. That puts the rotation where it was with Richard and Britton as injury depth in AAA.

O wise Baez is close to getting back. He is 2 for 6 over 2 games in Azl. I'm expecting him up in Iowa by Monday. At that point I'll bet they make a decision to promote him and move Herrera off of the 25 man. That is when things get interesting.

I think he was talking more about catching the Cardinals as far as being a difficult task, not the pirates whom their what 3 or 4 games back with a bunch of head to head games left..

Giants passed them up last night...


I agree they dont make much of a splash with a bat except maybe for the bench. ..

The offense needs these kids to hit despite who they add..


I just hope they dont rely on wada and think hoyer will upgrade there. . they would be basically counting on Arrieta and Lester and hoping Hammels dont fall back to his career numbers in 2nd half. . Hendricks with Wada isnt exactly reliable enough to even get you a .500 record between them in 2nd half. ..

 

[CSF77]

I think you are wrong. I think they need Montero back most of all. He gives the best balance of hitting and catching. He is a better catcher than Ross.

That puts Schwarber out of a job. So you find a spot for him to play every day. That would be LF by default. That puts Coghlan out of a Job. But there is CF. that puts Fowler out of a job but Cog is only a LH hitting platoon and Fowler has not hit as a LH this year.

It works in the end.

Adding O with out sacrificing the pitching staff should be the main goal.

 

[CSF77]

Also I would work a 3 man rotation at 2B and SS. bring up Baez and cut Herrera. They can then give Bryant days off with out losing O in Baez at 3B. Let it play out.

After Hamels' game hit price shot up also. Cubs need to focus on adding runs vs losing O weapons

 

[TL1961]

No. The smart play for the Cubs is to add pitching that helps in years to come, and let the kids grow.


Many on this roster will be better ofensively in future. Growing pains.

 

[chibears55]

Javy Baez has been hitting well in AZL, which is good for Cubs if they plan on moving him or bringing him up after deadline. .

I see them adding a bat for bench... Reliever, and a young starter...

 

[CSF77]

Javy Baez has been hitting well in AZL, which is good for Cubs if they plan on moving him or bringing him up after deadline. .

I see them adding a bat for bench... Reliever, and a young starter...

If they add Baez and Montero gets back that would cut Herrera and Tegan (not bothering looking up his name...) That puts the bench at Denorfia, Baez, Schwarber, Ross. Honestly that is not a bad bench at all. Denorfia can cover all 3 spots. He split RF with Venerible for years in S.D.

They are better off looking into F/A and trades in the off season. They have to trade Castro. The team needs to move on from that. 30 error pace and a .240 BA is just rotten.

 

[chibears55]

If they add Baez and Montero gets back that would cut Herrera and Tegan (not bothering looking up his name...) That puts the bench at Denorfia, Baez, Schwarber, Ross. Honestly that is not a bad bench at all. Denorfia can cover all 3 spots. He split RF with Venerible for years in S.D.

They are better off looking into F/A and trades in the off season. They have to trade Castro. The team needs to move on from that. 30 error pace and a .240 BA is just rotten.

Starting to think Castro is their main bargaining chip this week.
Thinking he going to be the guy that gets them their pitcher.
Wheather he the main course with prospects for price or hamels or a swap with say the mets or whomever for a young starter...

 

[SilenceS]

Eh, its kind of hard to hit when your BABIP is .271. Thats about 50 points off his career. He is pulling the ball a little more. I would think this is just a really bad stretch. The numbers behind him suggest real bad luck especially for a guy of his pedigree of hitting. Also, his defensive WAR is the second best of his career. So is his UZR and UZR 150. He has made the most remote plays of his career.

I really don't think he is going anywhere. Russell isn't killing it or even remotely doing well at the plate. Yes, he is young but that doesn't matter this year. Track record says Castro will figure it out before Russell.

Madden said that Castro is doing great in BP but when he gets in the game it isn't translating over. That tells me they fucked with Castro again. He batted .331 in the first month and then has just sunk. I mean a .271 BABIP for a guy thats a career over .280 hitter and high contact guy is pretty insane. He has to go through a stretch where everything starts to drop.

In the end, the offense sucks as a whole. It isn't one individual hurting the team. Its a collective group effort. When Bryant and Rizzo are combining to hit around .200 with almost no power in July, the Cubs aren't going to win many games.

Also, Kris Bryant home and away splits are pretty night and day. I hope those start to even out. .225 and 3 home runs this year away from Wrigley in 178 AB's. People can point fingers all day but this is a young team. This was going to happen. They are going to be a roller coaster ride. They will get hot. Lets just hope its multiple people at the same time for a long stretch. The background numbers suggest its going to happen.

 

[The Bandit]

Cueto to the Royals. Got the update from bleacher report. No idea what they gave up.

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[TL1961]

Nobody "fucked with Castro". He is mentally weak.

How many coaches/ managers have to be blamed for his failures?