2015 cubs in season trades

[SilenceS]

Nobody "fucked with Castro". He is mentally weak.

How many coaches/ managers have to be blamed for his failures?

LOL. Yes, yes. His career has been a failure. Never over emotional. Never

 

[TL1961]

LOL. Yes, yes. His career has been a failure. Never over emotional. Never

Your ridiculous attempts to deflect your blind love for Castro by calling facts "emotional" is beyond stupid.

On a team of disappointing hitters right now, he trumps them all. Yet you blame "them" for fucking him up. Unreal.

If you don't believe he has failed this year, look around at pretty much every other SS.

And history shows "he will figure it out before Russell"? Really? How so? History shows Castro has not been good at figuring things out. Are you saying Castro has hit once upon s time in MLB? Yes, he has. He also has been declining steadily, for reasons nobody has figured out.

You honestly believe Castro will be better than Russell in the future? I will take that bet for a grand right now. I would love to take advantage of your emotional attachment to him.

 

[SilenceS]

Your ridiculous attempts to deflect your blind love for Castro by calling facts "emotional" is beyond stupid.

On a team of disappointing hitters right now, he trumps them all. Yet you blame "them" for fucking him up. Unreal.

If you don't believe he has failed this year, look around at pretty much every other SS.

And history shows "he will figure it out before Russell"? Really? How so? History shows Castro has not been good at figuring things out. Are you saying Castro has hit once upon s time in MLB? Yes, he has. He also has been declining steadily, for reasons nobody has figured out.

You honestly believe Castro will be better than Russell in the future? I will take that bet for a grand right now. I would love to take advantage of your emotional attachment to him.

Yes, yes just like you said Bryant batting under .280 would be a failure of a season to him.

Its not blind love. Its track record. You also said Russell solidified himself before he ever played. I may be a fan boy of Castro but you are a straight hater. You use your emotion to go ape shit. Im not the only one to tell you this.

Look at Castro at 21 then look at Russell but you are sure Russell is the better player and Castro is trash. Got it. Also, Castro is the biggest problem? How so? You have David Ross hitting under the mendoza line and playing half the games? Rizzo and Bryant have batted sub .200 in July.

You only recognize the problem you want to see. you also say he is lazy even though I have shown you not to be the case. You make up things about him. Your over emotional. Its not deflection. Its truth.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

While we hear about the Cubs interested in acquiring the services of David Price and Cole Hamels, why hasn’t anyone talked about Jose Quintana as a potential option?

 

[Zvbxrpl]

While we hear about the Cubs interested in acquiring the services of David Price and Cole Hamels, why hasn’t anyone talked about Jose Quintana as a potential option?

Because the cubs need a stable TOR option, not a hot and cold #3 starter who looks great one minute and the next he cant get out of the 1st inning.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Quintana will be better than Hamels in the long run.

 

[CSF77]

Yes, yes just like you said Bryant batting under .280 would be a failure of a season to him.

Its not blind love. Its track record. You also said Russell solidified himself before he ever played. I may be a fan boy of Castro but you are a straight hater. You use your emotion to go ape shit. Im not the only one to tell you this.

Look at Castro at 21 then look at Russell but you are sure Russell is the better player and Castro is trash. Got it. Also, Castro is the biggest problem? How so? You have David Ross hitting under the mendoza line and playing half the games? Rizzo and Bryant have batted sub .200 in July.

You only recognize the problem you want to see. you also say he is lazy even though I have shown you not to be the case. You make up things about him. Your over emotional. Its not deflection. Its truth.

Russell has a .328 BABIP His 30% SO rate is killing him. Castro .271 BABIP with a 16.9% SO rate. Russell 8.8% BB to 4% for Castro. That is a big difference.

You have to think that Russell will lower his SO rate. He already has a good BB rate going. BABIP tends to avg out at .300. Russell is over Castro is under.

You have to look at BB% and FLD% to make a long term decision on SS. UZR150 has Russell at 12.8. Castro -0.1. That is a pretty big gap going on.

Defensive Ability UZR
Gold Glove Caliber +15
Great +10
Above Average +5
Average 0
Below Average -5
Poor -10
Awful -15

BTW Bryant's UZR150 at 3B is 5.9. He is not that bad of a 3B. Above avg so far this season. CF he was at a -134.9. Now that is something.

 

[SilenceS]

Russell has a .328 BABIP His 30% SO rate is killing him. Castro .271 BABIP with a 16.9% SO rate. Russell 8.8% BB to 4% for Castro. That is a big difference.

You have to think that Russell will lower his SO rate. He already has a good BB rate going. BABIP tends to avg out at .300. Russell is over Castro is under.

You have to look at BB% and FLD% to make a long term decision on SS. UZR150 has Russell at 12.8. Castro -0.1. That is a pretty big gap going on.

Defensive AbilityUZR
Gold Glove Caliber+15
Great+10
Above Average+5
Average 0
Below Average-5
Poor-10
Awful-15

BTW Bryant's UZR150 at 3B is 5.9. He is not that bad of a 3B. Above avg so far this season. CF he was at a -134.9. Now that is something.

Not how you judge those numbers. You have to more of a sample size. Also, position is key. Bryant is an average third baseman that has trouble getting down and up on balls. Russell babip shows he could go way down. Castro is around .330 babip. For a career. It's highly unlikely that stays there. It shows he is unlucky. I'm not hating on Russell but he has been abused this year and his strikeout rate has raised at every level. People want to replace but they have to prove they can replace him. Castro is much more likely to turn it around then a 21 year old rookie. I have no problem of them trading Castro is it for the betterment of the team. Right now, if they trade him then they are banking on the unknown. Russell is not proven in any way. Not with the bat and not with the glove. People like new things


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[TC in Mississippi]

Quintana will be better than Hamels in the long run.

We're talking about Cole Hamels right? If so and you think Quintana will surpass him I have this musical response: pass the Dutchie on the left hand side...

 

[brett05]

Because the cubs need a stable TOR option, not a hot and cold #3 starter who looks great one minute and the next he cant get out of the 1st inning.

Q is not the pitcher you described. Last year he was a Top 5 lefty in all of baseball and this year he's been very solid though terrible run support. Q would also be relatively expensive on the market. He no worse than a #2 and at times is a #1.

 

[brett05]

We're talking about Cole Hamels right? If so and you think Quintana will surpass him I have this musical response: pass the Dutchie on the left hand side...

In fairness they are a lot closer than you think. Factor in money and Q is by far the better value.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...=2013&ind=0&team=&rost=&age=&filter=&players=

 

[CSF77]

Not how you judge those numbers. You have to more of a sample size. Also, position is key. Bryant is an average third baseman that has trouble getting down and up on balls. Russell babip shows he could go way down. Castro is around .330 babip. For a career. It's highly unlikely that stays there. It shows he is unlucky. I'm not hating on Russell but he has been abused this year and his strikeout rate has raised at every level. People want to replace but they have to prove they can replace him. Castro is much more likely to turn it around then a 21 year old rookie. I have no problem of them trading Castro is it for the betterment of the team. Right now, if they trade him then they are banking on the unknown. Russell is not proven in any way. Not with the bat and not with the glove. People like new things


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My main points were BB% (Russell has shown to be 3-4% higher) and UZR150 shows Castro as avg to Russell playing off position being great. SS he is rated at a 53 but this is in 35 innings. Too small of a sample.

BABIP both should avg at .300. So you look at BB% and Russell's is better. IE looking into a window Russell seems to hold more value in years to come vs what has been in Castro's case.

Russell's SO% should be expected. The pitching has gotten better and he will have to mature. I expect him to have a 20% when he planes out with the talent.

Just my opinion. I would rather push Baez into the mix and let it play itself out. Seeing things I do believe that Castro would be the weakest of the 3 when things are said and done.

And I don't care what Castro was doing at the same age. I care about the next few years. From what I've seen Castro at his best is getting close to what Russell should be on a every day basis. Except Castro is looking like a on 1 year off 1 year guy right now.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Rizzo is really slumping. This team as a whole can't hit. It isn't a Castro thing. And no. I am not defending Castro. They need to put some viagra on their bats so the wood stays hard the whole game.

 

[Parade_Rain]

...People like new things


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Yep. It's like the Bears trading for Cutler and still being losers.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

In fairness they are a lot closer than you think. Factor in money and Q is by far the better value.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...=2013&ind=0&team=&rost=&age=&filter=&players=

I like Quintana and if you're only looking at numbers they are similar and you do have a real point on the money, one is severley underpaid and the other is paid fairly based on today's salaries.. When I watch the two though I see a poised leader in Hamels when he needs to be one and a lot of inconsistencies in Quintana. It's also large sample size against small sample size. Five more years of the same numbers and I might change my mind but right now if someone wanted a pitcher to top their rotation I would take Hamels over Quintana.

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

Tough slide but I'm still thrilled to be where we are. I would be hesitant to trade any prospects of significance knowing we're still maybe two years away. I think maybe we brought Addison Russell up too early but he's managed to tread water offensively and defensively he'll be elite.

Our guys are figuring out how to play. Soler's defense is atrocious but he's a young guy figuring out how to play. The book is out on Bryant but he'll adjust and start hitting to both sides of the field again.

Every thing is going to be just fine. But I'd be really apprehensive about trading our prospects unless we get a guy who is under our control for a few years. One of the few guys I'd consider is Cole Hammels because he's under contract for a while. Maybe Baez, maybe Castro, and a third decent prospect if Philly would accept it -- which they won't.

 

[chibears55]

If you told me back in March that the Cubs would be over .500 and a couple games out of a playoff spot on Aug 1st, id be thrilled. .

This team has been staying afloat on the pitching the last couple months, im hoping they strengthen that this week..

They have a bunch of talented hitters who unfortunately all have skidded at same time..
We seen for a few stretches just how good they can be when their going good.. Hopefully in August and September they get it together again. . Too much talent to be slumping for a long period of time..





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[SilenceS]

If you told me back in March that the Cubs would be over .500 and a couple games out of a playoff spot on Aug 1st, id be thrilled. .

This team has been staying afloat on the pitching the last couple months, im hoping they strengthen that this week..

They have a bunch of talented hitters who unfortunately all have skidded at same time..
We seen for a few stretches just how good they can be when their going good.. Hopefully in August and September they get it together again. . Too much talent to be slumping for a long period of time..





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Big hit man. They just cant get the big hit. I have watched a decent amount of the Cardinals lately and they are not very good with the bats, but it seems like they always get the big hit. The 2 out hit. The game winning hit. The hit to put a team away. The other night against the Sox. Molina bases clearing triple. He hit a very good pitch down the right field line. Our players would have struck out on that pitch. Gritty vets and smart players on that team and I hate the Cardinals.

 

[brett05]

I like Quintana and if you're only looking at numbers they are similar and you do have a real point on the money, one is severley underpaid and the other is paid fairly based on today's salaries.. When I watch the two though I see a poised leader in Hamels when he needs to be one and a lot of inconsistencies in Quintana. It's also large sample size against small sample size. Five more years of the same numbers and I might change my mind but right now if someone wanted a pitcher to top their rotation I would take Hamels over Quintana.

The sample size is not small. Its from 2013, 2014, and all of this year. Plenty big enough. Would I want Cole over Q? Yes. At what cost? Basically none. The numbers bare out that they are just about equal. And given the age, odds are long term Q will be better going forward than Cole.

 

[Doubledown]

Cubs have discussed Starlin Castro with Padres, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me. Cubs have inquired on San Diego starting pitchers. (shields)

http://www.bleachernation.com/2015/07/27/report-cubs-have-discussed-starlin-castro-with-padres/