2015 cubs in season trades

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Off season would be the earliest time. He has to build up value before it is worth considering it. Even so if they find a home for Baez it removes the need to move Castro.

My view has been Schwarber LF, Baez CF, Soler RF, Bryant 3B, Castro SS, Russell 2B, Rizzo 1B, Montero C. Bench: Ross, Alcantara, Denorfia, La Stella.

At that point you would be looking at Happ as the future 2B and it would be no rush to promote him.

You don't think Bryant has better tools for CF than Baez? I feel like Bryant is more athletic than Baez is and I think Baez has the arm to play 3B
 

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Latest rumor is they have offered Castro AND Baez for Hamels, but Phillies aren't interested. Not sure why we would deal two middle infielders anyway.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fa...le-top-middle-infielders-in-cole-hamels-talks

I have a hard time believing they said Castro and Baez and the Phillies just said no. If they did, **** them. I don't need the Cubs going full Special person over a pitcher that I still don't care for with other options especially the upcoming FA class.
 

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Latest rumor is they have offered Castro AND Baez for Hamels, but Phillies aren't interested. Not sure why we would deal two middle infielders anyway.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fa...le-top-middle-infielders-in-cole-hamels-talks
Doubt it was for both.. had to be one or other with a mixer of other players. ..

Baez got hurt and castro struggles put the phillies in a wait and see mode on that..


If it were for both. . Not sure it would be a wise move on cubs part to go with a struggling Russell at short and question mark in Alcantara at 2B..

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So does Bryant stay at 3rd for awhile then? I thought the plan was to move him to the OF in the near future

They don't really have a plan. They just have a bunch of young good position players with bats and they are trying to piece it together. Bryant runs well so the OF would be good for him. He is not terrible at third but his big body limits him some. He is slow to get down on bunts and he is slow getting up on dives.

Baez runs about the same as Bryant but his instincts in the field and on the base paths are well documented. People think Baez is going to a gem of a defensive player including Joe Maddon.

Basicaly, Bryant size stop him from some things. It will shake out one day.
 

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You should read the Phillies fans. Castro is horrible and was voted into all star games as a popularity contest and Baez is a complete bust for 200 at bats. Its hysterical.
 

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There's apparently conflicting reports on Julio Teheran's availability. He's not having an amazing year but he's a very very interesting name at 24 years old

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...el-puig-julio-teheran-072215?vid=488602691996
BRAVES’ TEHERAN: AVAILABLE OR NOT?

Two rival executives said Wednesday that the Braves are open to trading right-hander Julio Teheran — “quite open,” was how one put it.
However, a source with knowledge of the Braves’ thinking said that the team is not even considering such a move, explaining that Teheran is only 24, in the second year of a club-friendly six-year, $32.4 million contract and part of a deep crop of young pitchers the club worked hard to assemble.
All of that makes sense, but it’s not unusual for clubs to deny that a player is available until the moment he is traded. The Braves did just that during the offseason with Evan Gattis and Craig Kimbrel. Teheran’s age and contract make him attractive to other clubs as well as the Braves, despite his 4.53 ERA.
Team plans are subject to change – and sometimes vary according to a player’s performance. Teheran, in fact, is reversing his regression from earlier this season — he matched his career-high with 11 strikeouts against the Dodgers on Wednesday, and has pitched to a 2.81 ERA in his last four starts.
What if the Braves could trade Teheran for multiple pitching prospects and/or a young catcher?
Surely they would consider such a deal. Surely Teheran is not untouchable.
 

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Kazmir would have been perfect for the Cubs

Much cheaper to trade for than Hamels, Price, Cueto, and much cheaper to resign in the offseason. Still would have had the salary space to add another TOR arm like Zimmerman

I'd be fine with trading Castro and Baez to the Phillies, but then a hole at 2B appears assuming they slide Russel to short. Price would be ideal, if he would agree to an extension but it would suck to have to pay a premium for Price twice (Trade and resign)
 

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I wouldn't pay anything more than Vogelbach, McKenny and a lower end arm for Price now. Trade value has been set with the Kaz deal. He netted a #19 & 22 rank.

Getting a top tier talent would cost more on the seller side.

Prospect values are high right now.
 

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Doubt there is truth to the Baez & Castro. That one is out there
 

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Kazmir would have been perfect for the Cubs

Much cheaper to trade for than Hamels, Price, Cueto, and much cheaper to resign in the offseason. Still would have had the salary space to add another TOR arm like Zimmerman

I'd be fine with trading Castro and Baez to the Phillies, but then a hole at 2B appears assuming they slide Russel to short. Price would be ideal, if he would agree to an extension but it would suck to have to pay a premium for Price twice (Trade and resign)

Agreed. If Cubs give up prospects for him, his asking price should immediately go up.
 

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Kazmir would have been perfect for the Cubs

Much cheaper to trade for than Hamels, Price, Cueto, and much cheaper to resign in the offseason. Still would have had the salary space to add another TOR arm like Zimmerman

I'd be fine with trading Castro and Baez to the Phillies, but then a hole at 2B appears assuming they slide Russel to short. Price would be ideal, if he would agree to an extension but it would suck to have to pay a premium for Price twice (Trade and resign)

The thing is the 2B on the Phills has been given 2B over Utley. Add to it they have Franco at 3B now. So the rumor is not good to begin with as the Pills have low need for it.

Cubs wouldn't give up a MI and his replacement in 1 trade.

No team trades a injured player.

Stupid person pulled it out of his arse.
 

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http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2015/07/trade-rumor-thread-deadline-moving/

I've also heard that if the Cubs were to deal Starlin Castro, the most likely suitor is the San Diego Padres, who are always looking for offense and a return to form would give them surplus offense at a premium position. As I have mentioned, though, there is risk with that and my guess is that if the Padres are to take on Castro, it would only be in some sort of deal for James Shields and a big portion of his remaining salary.

UPDATE: 7:10 PM: Per David Kaplan, the Cubs are chasing Cole Hamels but David Price is not in play. At least not yet. Here is the money quote on Price...

Several reports have indicated that the Cubs have been in discussions with Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski regarding Price's availability but those do not appear to be accurate at this point. Cubs sources insist they have had no substantive discussions regarding him yet.

I am sure that won't slow down the speculation, but there is a lot of public information coinciding with the things I have heard privately.



Interesting though. Castro for Shields. I think that deal would go strait. Maybe a toss in from each side if anything. It would fix 2 problems for the Cubs. A controlable SP and it opes up a MI spot for Baez. I like it.
 

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http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2015/07/trade-rumor-thread-deadline-moving/

I've also heard that if the Cubs were to deal Starlin Castro, the most likely suitor is the San Diego Padres, who are always looking for offense and a return to form would give them surplus offense at a premium position. As I have mentioned, though, there is risk with that and my guess is that if the Padres are to take on Castro, it would only be in some sort of deal for James Shields and a big portion of his remaining salary.

UPDATE: 7:10 PM: Per David Kaplan, the Cubs are chasing Cole Hamels but David Price is not in play. At least not yet. Here is the money quote on Price...

Several reports have indicated that the Cubs have been in discussions with Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski regarding Price's availability but those do not appear to be accurate at this point. Cubs sources insist they have had no substantive discussions regarding him yet.

I am sure that won't slow down the speculation, but there is a lot of public information coinciding with the things I have heard privately.



Interesting though. Castro for Shields. I think that deal would go strait. Maybe a toss in from each side if anything. It would fix 2 problems for the Cubs. A controlable SP and it opes up a MI spot for Baez. I like it.

I like Castro but that's not the reason I wouldn't like this trade....maybe I should just say, it seems a bit risky. Not that Shields wouldn't be a good fit. I'm just not sold on Baez like some of you guys are...I'd like to see a bit more of him at the ML level. I mean we already are close to the ML lead in strike outs and the last I saw, Baez was striking out...a lot.
 

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I like Castro but that's not the reason I wouldn't like this trade....maybe I should just say, it seems a bit risky. Not that Shields wouldn't be a good fit. I'm just not sold on Baez like some of you guys are...I'd like to see a bit more of him at the ML level. I mean we already are close to the ML lead in strike outs and the last I saw, Baez was striking out...a lot.
Agree with you on Baez. It is highly unlikely that all of these guys become what they are projected and Baez worries me. Mainly for the strike outs and what we did see last year wasn't too impressive.

Id trade him now with the hype he has. A trade with him at the center piece won't get us someone who will help us go deep in to October though. Teams will want more
 

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