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Good call, I forgot about the shoulder injury. Another thing about it was the simple fact that people hated Hoss because they felt he had zero loyalty -- since he jumped from Pittsburgh to Detroit when he lost out on those Cups.
Yeah, there were a lot of people on him for solely chasing the cup.
I'm as big of a Hoss fan as you'll find, but when he went from Pit to Det I was pretty pissed about it. As soon as he was traded for, I couldn't wait to see him as a Hawk. I loved his play back in Ottawa and Atl.
His switch to a more defensive forward on the Hawks was awesome to see unfold. I think his relentless backchecking still shows on this team. As a mid 30 year old racing back as hard as he did must have made many younger players think "if this old guy can do that, I damn well better do it too".
Yeah, except the only one on the 'hawks who was close to being as good as he was at it was Toews and only when he won the Selke. I think when he was playing you could see the wheels churning in guys' heads like Saad...but I think that 3-zone play just evaporated after 2017.

Some have made comparisons with Kubalik--and the kid does show promise, but we said the same about Saad.

Goalies always seemed to be Tallon's achilles heel.....Khabby, then Huet....what a train wreck. I remember right when the Hawks started to turn the corner, my son had just gotten a great new job making well over 6 figures. He took me to Hawks game for my birthday...great seats, 1st row of the1st balcony right near the blueline. At the time, plenty of seats were available and he insisted at stopping at a booth that they advertised on the scoreboard about ticket plans and long term deals on seats. We talked for a bit with them but then the second period was about to start....they asked to see our tickets and would come to us at the next intermission. He was ready to buy the seats we were in for the rest of the season with a discounted playoff option as well. Like an idiot I talked him out of it solely because of the Hawks brutal goaltending....feeling they had zero shot with Khabby. He made a great case for my theory in that game as the Hawks were all over Minnesota but lost 5-2. I believe the shots for the game was something like 45-14.....in my mind, they couldnt and wouldn't do a thing until they got a goalie and I thought they were stuck with Khabby because of his contract. LOL, my son will never let me forget that and I will hate Khabibulin till the day I die.
To be fair to Khabi--he had one great year with the 'hawks--2008 I seem to recall. Beyond that he was either Meh. or injured. Was still a better choice than Lalime, Bouchard, etc--but not at his cap hit (with respect to the low cap ceiling back then).

As for Huet (and this cycles back to Hoss) we got lucky--being out west my choice is either a 6 hour drive to Vancouver or a 10 hour drive to San Jose, and back in November 2009 we chose Vancouver. Surprisingly most of the fans were decent enough with only a few dickbags. But anyways, the game we saw Huet was sitting and Neimi goosegged them 1-0 (Bickell with the GWG)...
...The very next game against San Jose was Hossa's 1st game as a 'hawk...so I can only say I've seen him play live as a Winterhawk back in 1998.
 

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Yeah, there were a lot of people on him for solely chasing the cup.

Yeah, except the only one on the 'hawks who was close to being as good as he was at it was Toews and only when he won the Selke. I think when he was playing you could see the wheels churning in guys' heads like Saad...but I think that 3-zone play just evaporated after 2017.

Some have made comparisons with Kubalik--and the kid does show promise, but we said the same about Saad.

I know that no one on the team compares to him, just saying his efforts rubbed off on many.
 

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I know that no one on the team compares to him, just saying his efforts rubbed off on many.
To me though it looked like that rubbing off wasn't long-term--at least since he hung 'em up. I won't say there haven't been moments where Saad, Toews, etc. have shown some Hossa-inspired 3-zone brilliance, but for the most part it looks like without Hossa driving the example they've tailed off. Some may be age but I just haven't seen the hustle.
 

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To me though it looked like that rubbing off wasn't long-term--at least since he hung 'em up. I won't say there haven't been moments where Saad, Toews, etc. have shown some Hossa-inspired 3-zone brilliance, but for the most part it looks like without Hossa driving the example they've tailed off. Some may be age but I just haven't seen the hustle.
I see it in Toews, Saad, Kane with the A, and Kubalik. Hossa was real evident when he fucked up and turned the puck over. It was awesome of him just flying around and getting it back.
 

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Duncan Keith? yep a Smith draft pick
Big Buff? yep a Smith draft pick
Brent Seabrook? yep a Smith draft pick
Corey Crawford? yep, a Smith draft pick
etc.
etc.

yep you still a newb in my book
and exactly where does the director of player personal sit above the general manager in the chain of command?
 

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so then its just simply a reason to dump salary and we can use that too.

I would be fine with it, no handcuffing the next GM with these deals he signed.
 

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I often refuse to speak to the media after my morning skate. ⛸

I can see Bowman sending Saad to Boston for a middling prospect and making that Panarin trade even more enjoyably memorable ?
 

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Saad and Lehner can fetch a first rounder, besides Kreider there ain’t much out there as trade bait.
 

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**UPDATED NHL INFO** Source: Sorokin's people stalled trade for now between #Isles, #Blackhawks, seems he's still being difficult with contract demands. Russian teammates leaked info that Hawks had deal lined up today, should be interesting 3+ days
 

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**UPDATED NHL INFO** Source: Sorokin's people stalled trade for now between #Isles, #Blackhawks, seems he's still being difficult with contract demands. Russian teammates leaked info that Hawks had deal lined up today, should be interesting 3+ days

Never heard of him until right now. Stats (don't mean everything) but seems like he could be great with a 1.5 GAA consistently over the years in Russia
 

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Okay, so there's like 2 hours left until the trade deadline and Bowman has made zero moves thus far.
 

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Okay, so there's like 2 hours left until the trade deadline and Bowman has made zero moves thus far.

High stakes poker

Stan knows Lehner and Gus are valuable pieces for a playoff push team

His trade partners know both guys are UFA's so Stan won't get anything at the end of the year

Who will blink first???
 

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Sell everything. Everything. The cupholders if you have to.
 

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Also. If he seriously makes no moves that has to be the final straw. Can only imagine other GM's tired of his shit and freezing him out.
 

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