It was more a yawn as opposed to point out the flaw in your statement, and start a long drawn out thread hijack. I figured the yawn response would avoid that and save time
This is all true, but it's extraordinarily difficult to get a top 10 player on your team. So we can say shake it up or blow it up all we like, that's been true the entire time. I wish it was as simple as trading the entire roster away for Nikola Jokic or something, but it doesn't work like that. As it is, I don't see any realistic move AKME can make this offseason to bring anyone of that caliber onto the team. No one was calling this team a contender coming into the season. There's been obvious gaps and holes on this roster that have been there from the start. Recall some projections had this team still finishing under .500.
Neither does Miami. Giannis had to work himself into one. Embiid hasn't won anything. Jokic could become MVP again and he has not gone anywhere. The list goes on. Talent wise, I put Zach on the level with Harden. Biggest difference is that Zach wants to win and works to try and play defense at times. None of these players can carry the team for a long stretch and that is what has been asked of them for most of this season. Bulls looked great to start the season when all of them were healthy because everyone did there part and it worked. Take one cog out of the machine and it doesn't run. That is what happens when a team doesn't have that "Guy". I am not saying when Lonzo gets back everything will be okay, but I would hope to see the machine at least start to run like it did at the beginning of the season.
Good points and very true. The thing is though, until/unless the bulls acquire that type of top 10 dude, our expectations should be that the bulls could only hope to be a thorn in teams sides. Especially if the scheme and coaching is going to be suspect. I haven’t seen anything over the past 2 years that makes me think BD is an elite coach. He’s a fine coach….probably average but he’s not upper echelon.
How many championships has this heat team won?
Zach Lavine is very much your 2nd option on any championship caliber team. DeMar is too. At best, DeMar/Lavine are comparable to Tatum/Brown, though most people would rather have Tatum/Brown than DeMar/Lavine.. plus DeMar is getting old. Short of Tatum really taking another leap, Boston is never going to win a championship with that team, a team clearly better rounded than the Bulls currently are.
I've never really viewed BD is a great coach. I was kinda suspect of him even being hired, though kept it mostly to myself due to wanting to give him a chance. I think he can be a positive to a good young team, but he's not a championship winner and sans the year he had Durant/Westbrook (in which the team blew a 3-1 lead in the WCF), he was a 1st round loser every other seasons in OKC. 1st round loser is what this year is shaping up to be too.
I think we were all just happy to move on from boylen and BD is a big name.
Absolutely.. it was great to move on from everything past regime.
I completely agree. This is why my expectations have never been that this team would win the title, at best getting to the 2nd round. Their actual performance isn't too far off, though how they're getting there is quite the roller coaster.
Well, you needed the roster turnover to even get this team to the playoffs.
A team with Vuc, LaVine and DeRozan should not be getting blown out as often as they have been. The fact that they only have like 1 or 2 quality wins is a major concern and red flag.
That is true. We weren't getting anywhere with Denzel Valentine and Wendell Carter Jr.
And if the bulls were to acquire a top 5 player somehow, I imagine ZL would be gone along with other guys. Then you’re stuck with an AD type situation where you have a top 5 player, but a shitty team
Yeah, but in theory then it's easier to build around that guy. You'll probably have a lot more cap space to attract players in FA and then you also have higher draft picks to potentially get another good player that way. It could fall completely flat of course and we waste that talent, but it's easier to think about building an elite team once the talent is already here. Right now we're trying to figure out how to be the 04 Pistons.
my opinion is you just keep trying to add to this roster. Odds of attaining a top 5 guy are slim to none anyways. So, you either add to this current roster or you blow it all up. Considering AKME is in year 1 of this roster, I’m going to go ahead and assume they will look to add to it also, as opposed to blowing it up
In practice I agree. You just try to improve what you got and make the best of it. Realistically the value on the team is you can move Vuc's expiring contract and hope to get someone with potential that will be better than him, or you trade Zach/Demar for a young stud on a team that's looking to win now (technically next year). I don't really see either of those options happening in a way that pans out. More likely we shuffle the bench players around and plug in holes like PF.
100% agreed
So, as you know me, I'm a superstar or bust in terms of winning a title, but at the same point, I like some team success now and again. After years of lottery picks, it's gets really tiresome to watch bad teams, and if you don't hit on your picks, you're just stuck in that loop forever. So, for this season, I was all for making this team a playoff team again, even if I knew they weren't going to win it all. Of course at this point I feel like the season will end as a bit of disappointment after being at the top of the East for a portion of the season, but still it's making the playoffs vs not (this is assuming they don't end up falling to 7th and getting knocked out in the play-in-game.
