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I’m hoping that AKs connection with Joker comes into play. Although unlikely, If jokic does not want to re-up with Denver, the bulls could say Hey….before you lose Jokic for nothing, take Vuc, DeMar, and some 1st rounders. Although, they may want Lonzo or LaVine instead of DeMar based on age.
Basically it'll take Jokic not wanting to be there anymore, and sooner rather than later. At the moment he will be an UFA after 2022-23 at age 28. But we'd need to be a position to snag him then (plus he'd have to want to come here). We'll see what he does. If he signs an extension this off-season, safe to say he's not going anywhere any time soon.
 

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Basically it'll take Jokic not wanting to be there anymore, and sooner rather than later. At the moment he will be an UFA after 2022-23 at age 28. But we'd need to be a position to snag him then (plus he'd have to want to come here). We'll see what he does. If he signs an extension this off-season, safe to say he's not going anywhere any time soon.
I’m also not certain how well Joker ages into his 30’s. It’d still be a rather large gamble on the bulls part to give up the players and picks, plus give him the max salary…
 

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I’m also not certain how well Joker ages into his 30’s. It’d still be a rather large gamble on the bulls part to give up the players and picks, plus give him the max salary…
On the one side, there is absolutely 0 athletic component to his game. Dude is basically the anti top draft pick by most scouting reports. His game will age well I think, but as with most players you should expect a decline after the early 30s. Just because of the amount of skill he has vs the athleticism, I think he could play at a pretty high level for a while, though certainly not MVP level like right now.
 

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Yeah joker seems like the exact type of player whose game will age well. Would have zero concerns about that
 

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On the one side, there is absolutely 0 athletic component to his game. Dude is basically the anti top draft pick by most scouting reports. His game will age well I think, but as with most players you should expect a decline after the early 30s. Just because of the amount of skill he has vs the athleticism, I think he could play at a pretty high level for a while, though certainly not MVP level like right now.
It’s injuries I would worry about. He’s already carrying a good bit of weight…not sure how old you guys are, but around the time your 30’s hits…that metabolism slowwws down. Its not his style of play that concerns me
 

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It’s injuries I would worry about. He’s already carrying a good bit of weight…not sure how old you guys are, but around the time your 30’s hits…that metabolism slowwws down. Its not his style of play that concerns me
Yes, I have declined in my 30's.. but, I also am not a professional basketball player.

Injuries are really always a risk for most athletes in their 30's though.
 

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It’s injuries I would worry about. He’s already carrying a good bit of weight…not sure how old you guys are, but around the time your 30’s hits…that metabolism slowwws down. Its not his style of play that concerns me
Well injuries will be a risk for anyone. But even a major lower body injury, I just feel like his game won't really be affected as much as another player because it's all things that don't rely on moving much. If anything his scoring would just dip, but that will happen regardless with age.
 

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Yeah injuries are always a concern for any player.

For example, Zach is due for a super max contract and has a previous ACL tear and will likely need surgery on that knee in the off season. That to me is more concerning than jokic being pudgy
 

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Bulls didn't have a path to a championship sans Zach turning into a legit superstar. Re-signing Niko and not fully bottoming out while Lauri was a rookie and Zach was sidelined was a massive blunder. Very similar to Krause trading for Jalen Rose that likely cost us a top 5 pick in 03.

So it was either blow it up or try to make a good team for a few years. Personally i was happy to just have a watchable team again after the flop rebuild. I'm holding out a little hope that the playoffs will re-energize the team. We need Lonzo back but thats looking unlikely.
 
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Bulls didn't have a path to a championship sans Zach turning into a legit superstar. Re-signing Niko and not fully bottoming out while Lauri was a rookie and Zach was sidelined was a massive blunder. Very similar to Krause trading for Jalen Rose that likely cost us a top 5 pick in 03.

So it was either blow it up or try to make a good team for a few years. Personally i was happy to just have a watchable team again after the flop rebuild. I'm holding out a little hope that the playoffs will re-energize the team. We need Lonzo back but thats looking unlikely.
I have zero hope for the playoffs. The bulls lost some must win games against inferior teams during this stretch run. They havent shown the ability to flip a switch and still look lost against better teams. When the intensity, physicality, and competition ramps up in the playoffs, it could get worse , not better. They’ve shown very little fight this season overall other than a handful of games

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Yes, injuries are a concern for any player. No, I don’t think the odds are the same for a guy that’s overweight vs a guy who isn’t overweight. its easy to just say, oh yeah pull the trigger and give up everything for a 28 year old(by the time he’s available) Jokic…all I’m saying is there’s more risk there than I think most here are acknowledging
 

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Yes, injuries are a concern for any player. No, I don’t think the odds are the same for a guy that’s overweight vs a guy who isn’t overweight. its easy to just say, oh yeah pull the trigger and give up everything for a 28 year old(by the time he’s available) Jokic…all I’m saying is there’s more risk there than I think most here are acknowledging
Not only would I pull the trigger…I wouldn’t even think, aim, or look lol…Id make the deal so fast Denver’s head would be spinning and they’d need to hydrate
 

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Zach and Jokic? Hell yes you make that happen.
 

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We're never getting that revenge on Grayson Allen are we?
 

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Bulls got this one and Bradley will concuss Grayson. You heard it here first
 

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Zach is officially questionable for this game, probably a game time decision if he goes or not
 

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Zach is officially questionable for this game, probably a game time decision if he goes or not
At this point, 2.5 games ahead of Cleveland with 4 to go…it makes sense to rest Zach if he’s hurting. especially when it’s a game we are unlikely to win anyways lol
 

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