4 QB 3 WR 1OT scenario

[IBleedBearsBlood]

What is wrong with stacking talent? Plus, Kmet is a true in-line TE. Bowers is not.

It’s obvious nothing is wrong with stacking pallet. Just like there ain’t nothing wrong with getting extra picks but trading someone in a position your are stacked with after a draft pick is made. Some people would want to proceed with drafting bowers and trading Kmet for an additional pick in this years draft. Some wouldn’t and want to stack players on top of what we have already. Neither is wrong. Just depends what side Poles is on.

 

[playthrough2001]

It’s obvious nothing is wrong with stacking pallet. Just like there ain’t nothing wrong with getting extra picks but trading someone in a position your are stacked with after a draft pick is made. Some people would want to proceed with drafting bowers and trading Kmet for an additional pick in this years draft. Some wouldn’t and want to stack players on top of what we have already. Neither is wrong. Just depends what side Poles is on.

Kmet was just signed to an extension. He’s a team leader. They just traded Fields. I don’t think it would be a smart football or locker room move.

The Bears have one top 10 TE and a solid option in Everett. They aren’t “stacked.”

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Kmet was just signed to an extension. He’s a team leader. They just traded Fields. I don’t think it would be a smart football or locker room move.

The Bears have one top 10 TE and a solid option in Everett. They aren’t “stacked.”

For you they ain’t. You don’t speak for anyone else. Remember that.

 

[playthrough2001]

For you they ain’t. You don’t speak for anyone else. Remember that.

They only have two TEs on the roster. They have a third that played at Princeton and he’s on a futures contract.

You think they’re stacked?

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

They only have two TEs on the roster. They have a third that played at Princeton and he’s on a futures contract.

You think they’re stacked?

I didn’t say they were. I said “there ain’t nothing wrong with getting extra picks but trading someone in a position your are stacked with after a draft pick is made”. That’s if anyone thinks so. If someone thinks that and they want to make a trade, ain’t nothing wrong with that.

 

[pseudonym]

So draft day hits and the first 8 picks goes some combination of:

The 4 QBs. MHJ, Nabers, Odunze and Alt.

No team wants to trade down.

Who’s your guy at 9?

One of the three F LTs or a DE—Verse or Tuner. IDK to know who is the best of those. You could also trade down 3-5 more spots and get the same LT or DE.

 

[pseudonym]

I’m going Fashanu and protecting the franchise.

Gives me tremendous depth and flexibility on the line. Maybe not the best move short term because it leaves a hole at DE. But long term I want the OL stocked.

Round 3/4 best DL/WR/OC available. Use the 3 million saved from cutting Borom towards any FA left.

Williams QB
Fashanu LT
Pearsall WR
MWashington WR

 

[pseudonym]

Turner or Odunze, but it’s so funny to see braindead sports pundits like on ESPN 1000 just completely dismiss the idea of people like Alt or Turner being there at 9.

Math still exists, right?

Before the Bears pick, we could easily see some combination of:

Caleb Williams
Drake Maye
Jayden Daniels
JJ McCarthy
Marvin Harrison, Jr
Malik Nabers
Rome Odunze
Joe Alt

HOLY SHIT, would you look at that?!?! Dallas Turner fell to 9!

Someone awesome will absolutely fall to 9. This “He won’t be there” bullshit is dumb.

Actually I can probably guarantee you that one of Alt or Turner will be there. I definitely thing 4 QBs are going to go before us, and I think those three WRs will as well. Between Alt, Tuner, and say Odunze I'd take ANY of them. All are excellent

 

[sphinxnole]

do you mean less powerful as Mack coming out of college or prime NFL Mack?

Verse is a huge dude but looks like can add some more muscle with full-time NFL strength training

def would not be upset if that is pick at 9

College Mack…

 

[msadows]

Kmet was just signed to an extension. He’s a team leader. They just traded Fields. I don’t think it would be a smart football or locker room move.

The Bears have one top 10 TE and a solid option in Everett. They aren’t “stacked.”

Everett can also be cut in 2025 and save 5.5m/1m dead cap. Pretty sure its basically a 1 year rental for him.

I dont expect bowers, but in this scenario who knows. Likely they'd trade down tho.

 

[HearshotKDS]

Actually I can probably guarantee you that one of Alt or Turner will be there. I definitely thing 4 QBs are going to go before us, and I think those three WRs will as well. Between Alt, Tuner, and say Odunze I'd take ANY of them. All are excellent

Alt's not getting past TEN at 7 if he even gets that far down in the first place.

 

[Throwthebones]

I think we trade back

 

[maxhatter]

Verse is so similar to Sweat it’s kind of crazy. They would make great bookends. Verse is long and powerful. He plays the run tough. It gives you two guys that set a hard edge and can get around a tackle or push him straight back into the QB.

Verse has a couple of highlights where he bull rushes the OT into the QB and knocks them both to the ground.

I think Verse would be a good compliment to Sweat, but by no means are they similar. Sweat is 6'6" with nearly 36" arms, he ran 4.4 at the combine and considered to be a freak athlete. Verse is 6' 4" with short arms (33 1/4), he's fast for a DE at 4.58 but he's not a speed guy. How the two of them play the position is vastly different. I'm not saying that's a bad thing though and would not be opporsed to the pick

 

[pseudonym]

Alt's not getting past TEN at 7 if he even gets that far down in the first place.

I think 4 QBs and 3 WRs go early, plus Alt and Turner. So, somebody is falling to us. Alt you may be right at 7 to TEN.

 

[msadows]

I think we trade back

Agree on this too, mostly cause I think the "best fit" at DE for this team is laitu which you can get via trade down. Let walker play the run on 1st and 2nd then bring out the young kid to wreck havock on 3rd down.

Use that 2nd you picked up on a 2nd tier WR

 

[DavidH]

Bowers.

 

[Bearly]

Latu is unquestionably the best edge and it's really not debatable. My hang up with him is obviously the injury concern. But I'd be thrilled if they could trade back and add him while picking up a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I was thinking the same thing but just watched film on the top 3 edges and I'd go with Verse. When guys are close, I take the one with the best physical traits and coach him up, especially with that production. The one that I think is way overrated is Turner. I just don't see why he's moved up the boards, probably measurements but he's pretty easily blocked on runs. Speed guys are easily handled in the NFL without enough strength to soften and edge. NFL Ts are long and dance well enough to redirect unless you have enough strength to soften the edge with leverage.

Whomever drafts Latu will be very happy but his ceiling isn't at the same level as Verse. If I'm a GM, I look at Verse and see a guy that has good technique and more room to grow than Latu who is can't miss solid.

 

[DB012031]

He most likely would be in a rotation with Walker with Walker playing more run downs and Turner more passing downs. On obvious passing downs he can easily play in a 2 point stance.

Further he will be 21 the entire 2024 season while Verse will turn 24 in November. So he likely still has a few years to fill out and add strength before reaching his peak.

Assuming their grades are close, I go Turner all day. He is more explosive, longer, and younger and would represent the speed rusher to complement Sweat.

Those are solid and fair points. I have to ask though, is it worth the 9th pick then for essentially a specialist then? Or are you thinking that within 1-2 seasons, he fills out more and is an every down DE?

 

[oping00@gmail.com]

I was thinking the same thing but just watched film on the top 3 edges and I'd go with Verse. When guys are close, I take the one with the best physical traits and coach him up, especially with that production. The one that I think is way overrated is Turner. I just don't see why he's moved up the boards, probably measurements but he's pretty easily blocked on runs. Speed guys are easily handled in the NFL without enough strength to soften and edge. NFL Ts are long and dance well enough to redirect unless you have enough strength to soften the edge with leverage.

Whomever drafts Latu will be very happy but his ceiling isn't at the same level as Verse. If I'm a GM, I look at Verse and see a guy that has good technique and more room to grow than Latu who is can't miss solid.

I also think Turner is maybe not overrated, but he's not as polished as the other 2 and his pass rush skills are definitely not as good as Will Anderson last year. His athletic skills and such showcased at the combine is what is setting him apart, plus he fits more as a 3-4 OLB than DE.

 

[Les Grossman]

Agree on this too, mostly cause I think the "best fit" at DE for this team is laitu which you can get via trade down. Let walker play the run on 1st and 2nd then bring out the young kid to wreck havock on 3rd down.

Use that 2nd you picked up on a 2nd tier WR

Verse is the best fit for the Bears. Not saying he's the best EDGE, but he's a prototypical DE for this type of defense.