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I don't know anything about Bowman or Q or who's ACTUAL fault it is... but I am pissed that the Hawks suck so much right now.
I have a feeling they're going to at least lose the next two... hope I'm wrong.
I have a feeling they're going to at least lose the next two... hope I'm wrong.
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Why is Brendan Morrisson still on our roster?
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I hope you are too, but that would require a miracle from whatever deity you believe in...
This streak is at least going 10 if Q's still here... the Preds and Rangers with THIS kind of confidence on the road? Right....
If not, then 9.... the very least.
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Trying the same thing over and over gets the same result, a bowl of failure. Yeah he needs to go, he is unwilling to adapt to reality.
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Well, the McDouchebag PR machine via Barry "the mouthpiece" Rozner is now in effect:
Easy to forget Hawks still rebuilding
A month ago, some had Joel Quenneville headed to the Hall of Fame.
Today, many of the same Blackhawks observers think he ought to be fired.
Amazing what a losing streak can do to a team.
The reality is the Hawks weren't as good as their record a month ago, beneficiaries of an easy schedule. And some of us tried to communicate such.
They're also not as bad as this current losing streak might suggest.
Like it or not, the Hawks are rebuilding — reloading? — on the fly. They won the Cup only 20 months ago and promptly lost half a team to disastrous cap mismanagement.
They are less than two years into the process of finding the right pieces at the right prices to complement the core, while beginning to add young players to the mix.
Some additions have been awful and some good, but decisions affecting the long term are complex in the cap-era NHL, and it partially explains why eight different teams have won the last eight Stanley Cups — and not a one of them had the payroll catastrophe the Hawks faced in the summer of 2010.
So blaming Quenneville doesn't make a lot of sense, no more than the Wings would blame Mike Babcock for winning only a playoff series each of the last two years after a Cup win and a Finals defeat.
If you're desperate for a positive, the Hawks have owned the final two periods of the last few games from an effort standpoint, which is proof enough they haven't quit on their coach.
They are also angry, another good indicator.
To his credit, Quenneville — as old school as they come — has eased up on his players emotionally and verbally the last week or so, knowing how fragile they've become.
He is doing what he can to get them out of it, but sometimes it simply takes a good bounce to win a game and get out of a funk.
Until then, Quenneville can't make saves for his goaltenders. He can't keep track of their net or help them find their posts.
He can't make Nick Leddy older than his 20 years and he can't magically make 102 games of NHL experience feel like 202.
He can't make plays for Duncan Keith, who needs to keep it simple and remember why he was the best defenseman in hockey two years ago.
He can't skate with his forwards, get the puck deep and stop turning it over at the blue line, even though he sometimes tells them less than 60 seconds before they do it.
He can't make them bigger or tougher, but he can insist they stick up for each other.
He can simplify the power play, ask them to get pucks to the net and make certain there's enough high-low and east-west puck movement. He can also ask the Hawks to stop running around on the penalty kill.
Quenneville, admittedly, let the Hawks slack off from their defensive responsibilities when they were getting by with offense and really not playing great hockey in December and January. But they were winning and it's a long season and you have to pick your fights without burning out your players.
But it got away from them and now it's a battle to get it back. The Hawks have shown signs, sometimes for a period or two, of getting out of this mess.
They're not as bad as the standings now suggest, but they are suffering from a serious crisis of confidence. Yes, even a team as talented as the Hawks can lose its confidence, and that's visible in every game.
Chicken or the egg? Do you need a win to gain confidence, or is it even possible to win if you don't have confidence?
One certainty is that without confidence players think instead of react. They worry instead of relax. They squeeze sticks harder and instead of making plays they butcher them.
The game is too fast to hesitate, but when a player worries about making a mistake instead of making a play, it's already too late.
Some players try too hard and find themselves hopelessly out of position. Some skate like the wind and take themselves out of the play with wasted effort. Some become too aggressive and take bad penalties.
Some are gripped by fear and it takes them a period to even get in the game.
All of these things have occurred during this losing streak, and the latter is just one of the reasons the Hawks have been down early the last few games.
But they aren't this bad, and they haven't lost 8 straight because Quenneville suddenly became a bad head coach.
It's a combination of believing they were better than they were, sloppy play from the goaltender to the forwards, bad luck and poor starts.
It's a lot to clean up.
What they could use now is a bounce, a break, a post or a gift.
They need something to turn this around so they can win a game and regain belief in themselves.
Unfortunately, that's also not something Joel Quenneville can do for them.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120213/sports/702139690/print/
Easy to forget Hawks still rebuilding
A month ago, some had Joel Quenneville headed to the Hall of Fame.
Today, many of the same Blackhawks observers think he ought to be fired.
Amazing what a losing streak can do to a team.
The reality is the Hawks weren't as good as their record a month ago, beneficiaries of an easy schedule. And some of us tried to communicate such.
They're also not as bad as this current losing streak might suggest.
Like it or not, the Hawks are rebuilding — reloading? — on the fly. They won the Cup only 20 months ago and promptly lost half a team to disastrous cap mismanagement.
They are less than two years into the process of finding the right pieces at the right prices to complement the core, while beginning to add young players to the mix.
Some additions have been awful and some good, but decisions affecting the long term are complex in the cap-era NHL, and it partially explains why eight different teams have won the last eight Stanley Cups — and not a one of them had the payroll catastrophe the Hawks faced in the summer of 2010.
So blaming Quenneville doesn't make a lot of sense, no more than the Wings would blame Mike Babcock for winning only a playoff series each of the last two years after a Cup win and a Finals defeat.
If you're desperate for a positive, the Hawks have owned the final two periods of the last few games from an effort standpoint, which is proof enough they haven't quit on their coach.
They are also angry, another good indicator.
To his credit, Quenneville — as old school as they come — has eased up on his players emotionally and verbally the last week or so, knowing how fragile they've become.
He is doing what he can to get them out of it, but sometimes it simply takes a good bounce to win a game and get out of a funk.
Until then, Quenneville can't make saves for his goaltenders. He can't keep track of their net or help them find their posts.
He can't make Nick Leddy older than his 20 years and he can't magically make 102 games of NHL experience feel like 202.
He can't make plays for Duncan Keith, who needs to keep it simple and remember why he was the best defenseman in hockey two years ago.
He can't skate with his forwards, get the puck deep and stop turning it over at the blue line, even though he sometimes tells them less than 60 seconds before they do it.
He can't make them bigger or tougher, but he can insist they stick up for each other.
He can simplify the power play, ask them to get pucks to the net and make certain there's enough high-low and east-west puck movement. He can also ask the Hawks to stop running around on the penalty kill.
Quenneville, admittedly, let the Hawks slack off from their defensive responsibilities when they were getting by with offense and really not playing great hockey in December and January. But they were winning and it's a long season and you have to pick your fights without burning out your players.
But it got away from them and now it's a battle to get it back. The Hawks have shown signs, sometimes for a period or two, of getting out of this mess.
They're not as bad as the standings now suggest, but they are suffering from a serious crisis of confidence. Yes, even a team as talented as the Hawks can lose its confidence, and that's visible in every game.
Chicken or the egg? Do you need a win to gain confidence, or is it even possible to win if you don't have confidence?
One certainty is that without confidence players think instead of react. They worry instead of relax. They squeeze sticks harder and instead of making plays they butcher them.
The game is too fast to hesitate, but when a player worries about making a mistake instead of making a play, it's already too late.
Some players try too hard and find themselves hopelessly out of position. Some skate like the wind and take themselves out of the play with wasted effort. Some become too aggressive and take bad penalties.
Some are gripped by fear and it takes them a period to even get in the game.
All of these things have occurred during this losing streak, and the latter is just one of the reasons the Hawks have been down early the last few games.
But they aren't this bad, and they haven't lost 8 straight because Quenneville suddenly became a bad head coach.
It's a combination of believing they were better than they were, sloppy play from the goaltender to the forwards, bad luck and poor starts.
It's a lot to clean up.
What they could use now is a bounce, a break, a post or a gift.
They need something to turn this around so they can win a game and regain belief in themselves.
Unfortunately, that's also not something Joel Quenneville can do for them.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120213/sports/702139690/print/
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The worst part about Q and the current situation is that he shouldn't be adapting to anything. Set the fucking lines and don't fucking touch them unless someone gets injured. I don't care if Stahlberg puts the puck in his own net after pushing Corey or Ray aside to do it. Leave people in the game and create chemistry on the top two or three offensive lines. That is how the players will get through this, not via the Q Random Line Generator or Mike Kitchen's horrible coaching (if you can call it that.........)
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What a terrible article. So basically Stan and Q are completely without blame? Q didn't suddenly become a bad head coach. He's always been nothing but average, and his line shuffling over the last 10-15 games has destroyed any chemistry this team had.
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David Haugh at the Tribune did a similar article. No one is talking about Kitchen's role in this or Q's Random Line Generator nonesense. What a sham. I just can't believe Sassone is in on it too now. Which is why I posted the stuff about McDickhead threatening to limit access for anyone being overly critical or just plain overtly criticizing this team's management and coaching staff. It is easier for them all to blame 25 players.
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Fire Kitchen and make some heat around Q. Kitchen has brought absolutely nothing of worth to this team. The hiring smells of nepotism. Q wanted his BFF and McD and Stan obliged.
If the Hawks can't right the ship soon enough, then I am starting to think that this team is far more broken and incorrectly constructed than one might think.
What is going on with Kane? Wasn't this the year he was supposed to take the next step, yet it's looking like he's going to have his worst statistical season so far. Nursing an injury or is it the lack of happy juice making him play bad, if so please get him on the booze ASAP again.
And I'd like to echo an earlier Pez68 post about the Wangs. There's a team that indeed plays a SYSTEM and every player buys into it and no matter who they ice, their coach makes sure that you buy into it, if you don't, you're out.
It seems that coach Q has a shelf-life, he works well for a time and then just stagnates and can't get a team behind him. I don't care what the player are saying, they are just paying lip-service. It's not like they are going to say what they really think to the press.
Coach Q has a great career record, but he has also been blessed with some stacked teams, yet he has only 1 Cup to his name and only 1 final appearance. That ought to say something that he might not have that final factor that pushes a team over a hump.
If the Hawks can't right the ship soon enough, then I am starting to think that this team is far more broken and incorrectly constructed than one might think.
What is going on with Kane? Wasn't this the year he was supposed to take the next step, yet it's looking like he's going to have his worst statistical season so far. Nursing an injury or is it the lack of happy juice making him play bad, if so please get him on the booze ASAP again.
And I'd like to echo an earlier Pez68 post about the Wangs. There's a team that indeed plays a SYSTEM and every player buys into it and no matter who they ice, their coach makes sure that you buy into it, if you don't, you're out.
It seems that coach Q has a shelf-life, he works well for a time and then just stagnates and can't get a team behind him. I don't care what the player are saying, they are just paying lip-service. It's not like they are going to say what they really think to the press.
Coach Q has a great career record, but he has also been blessed with some stacked teams, yet he has only 1 Cup to his name and only 1 final appearance. That ought to say something that he might not have that final factor that pushes a team over a hump.
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What is really unusual about them is that it hasn't really changed much or been altered since Bowman was coaching in the 90's. And it still works for them today.
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You are right. He has always limited access to people who don't tow the company line/PR. Problem is, the average fan doesn't know that. They will believe pretty much anything written. That's why sometimes McD has his own people write the pieces. Ever wonder why after Jesse Rogers wrote the piece on Campbell where Campbell calls out the crap going on here, that SUDDENLY there was a very lengthy piece written by a no name female extolling the virtues of the organization?
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It didn't get by me. They all say the same thing and it is complimentary to the current GM and coach and it bashes Tallon. No surprise there.
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Exactly. They also have been able to keep the same guys in the same positions for 90% of the season. The last 10% is based on injuries or bringing in new blood and youth.
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So hire Mike Babcock? Tell Rocky to get his wallet out and add zeros til babcock says yes.
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Just give him Q and Kitch's salary. Kitch apparently makes a damn good salary for a backup with a shitty head coaching record.
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