Anthony prefers a trade to the Bulls or Knicks

[pinkizdead]

if we do trade away taj and JJ with deng, will have enough under the cap to get replacement forwards? amunson etc?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

no team is willing to trade assets for a rental. there aren't 28 other teams in the mix. Also in spite of not having a no trade clause, his ability to become a free agent/not sign an extension has the effect of being an informal no trade clause.


i agree about denver keeping him/free agency. '

unlike cleveland denver doesn't have a lot of bad contracts. nene is often injured, but he's still a good player. nene and billups are old, but they're big contract coming off the books soon. I'd say it's 47 chance he resigns, 53% he leaves.

Are you really sure about that? Even if Melo does not re-sign, he would be a massive expiring contract. And that aspect alone could be appealing to anyone. And then longer the Nuggets keep him into the season, the more appealing he looks to trade for/dump salary for once teams get desperate.

 

[houheffna]

if we do trade away taj and JJ with deng, will have enough under the cap to get replacement forwards? amunson etc?

You would only have to get one to replace Taj, Johnson doesn't need replacing. Carmelo could slide down to the 4 at times too. He is a good enough rebounder and could cause serious match up problems. As long as it wasn't a routine thing. Eventually, they might have to trade one of their guards to get a pf though.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

It really comes down to is Deng a positive or negative for the Nuggets. Talentwise he is a positive but if they intend to rebuild then he is a negative. But they aren't going to kid themselves either, Deng and Gibson don't make them a playoff team.

Well, I think Carmelo stays a Nugget this season, mostly, because DEN has the capability of being the 2nd best team in the West with him there. I suspect he will at least play some games for them next season.

But who's to say Denver can't make the playoffs with a team of

C- Nene, Andersen
PF- Martin, Gibson
SF- Deng, Harrington
SG- Affalo, Smith
PG- Billups, Lawson

can't make the playoffs?

 

[RandallPinkFloyd42]

Bulls are considering sending Noah to Denver. Thoughts?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Bulls are considering sending Noah to Denver. Thoughts?

If they do, it better damn well be a sign-&-trade for Melo.

 

[NealKleren]

I didnt see your post while i was writing mine lol. But yeah im with you on the excited part. I say this puts us ahead of Miami if this happens. The Bulls would have a super team with Brewer being the weak link i guess. I think people might underestimate what he can do defensively.

Lol its cool. Yea I think teams like NJ,LAC and a few others could give a better deal. But if Melo doesnt want to sign an extension with them then those teams obviously wont want to give alot away to keep him for a year(they could but why would they) so imo it comes down to either Melo staying or going where he wants to go.

 

[payton 34ever]

Well the the best players of the nuggets other than anthony are an injury prone center, a 34 year old pg and 33 year old pf. If he stays there, they're going to have to find a way to re-tool quickly. i guess carmello is just sick of colorodo.

I'd welcome carmello with open arms, but i'm far too cynical to accept any rumours about melo. lebron's 'decision' has left a sour taste in my mouth.

This.

If/when it happens, I'd be doing cartwheels in the streets. Until then, however, I'm not letting myself get suckered into that "of course this is the best spot for "(top player)" to win, why wouldn't he come here?" again.

Wake me when it's a done deal and he's signed an extension with the Bulls, no sooner.

 

[Scoot26]

Bulls are considering sending Noah to Denver. Thoughts?

Against it...everyone should know why though.

 

[pinkizdead]

Are you really sure about that? Even if Melo does not re-sign, he would be a massive expiring contract. And that aspect alone could be appealing to anyone. And then longer the Nuggets keep him into the season, the more appealing he looks to trade for/dump salary for once teams get desperate.

yes. Plus there are plenty of trade exceptions out there you wouldn't really need to go after anthony. Expiring contracts aren't worth as much this year. Could a gm(let's use Kahn as an example) that has no prospect of retaining anthony trade for him, and justify to his fan base that it worth trading rubio, wesley johnson and draft picks for keep melo for a couple months out of the year?

imagine if gar traded deng and noah for melo, in spite of rumors that melo wont sign an extention, and he prefers other teams that will have cap space next year. I'd be disappointed. We traded two quality players for a guy who made us worse in the long run.

The counter argument would be that he's a seat filler, and a gm might trade prospects simply to fill seats that year. To me that's a temporary solution, and any gm should realize that.

i could see a person doing it, but i dont think it's a likely outcome. I stand by the notion that a team really wont trade for anthony unless they have an assurence that he will sign an extension.

 

[NealKleren]

Bulls are considering sending Noah to Denver. Thoughts?

Id rather not get rid of Noah.Id rather have them give up Deng two first rounders and taj an/or johnson. I understand why they would want Noah. They are really pushing for a center right now,especially since they wanted Brooke Lopez. Also because they dont want Dengs contract.Idk right now,Id rather not but my mind might change. For now I wouldnt give up Noah,its going to be hard to find a center like him,especially his age and energy and improvement over the years.

 

[TheStig]

Are you really sure about that? Even if Melo does not re-sign, he would be a massive expiring contract. And that aspect alone could be appealing to anyone. And then longer the Nuggets keep him into the season, the more appealing he looks to trade for/dump salary for once teams get desperate.

No one is going to give up the assests necessairy to get Melo just for an expiring. There are cheaper expiring deals available. Whoever gets Melo is getting him to sign an extension as part of the deal.

 

[pinkizdead]

If they do, it better damn well be a sign-&-trade for Melo.

I have a question for you guys.

Denver doesn't want any bad contracts, and there are plenty of teams with cap space, trade exceptions.

If we do trade noah and get back melo sometime around the trade deadline, would you be up for trading

noah->denver
melo and varejo-> chicago
deng-> cleveland using the trade exception.

you'd need to adjust it by add a few other pieces. Next year we could bulk up our dept at guard and center by using up part of our mid level exception for guys like dalembert.

 

[TheStig]

Bulls are considering sending Noah to Denver. Thoughts?

I do it if I have to. If its Melo or Noah and Deng. I take Melo. I would then make a hard push for Dampier when he gets cut. Hopefully we have a few extra bucks in cap space to beat out the heat.

 

[TheStig]

I have a question for you guys.

Denver doesn't want any bad contracts, and there are plenty of teams with cap space, trade exceptions.

If we do trade noah and get back melo sometime around the trade deadline, would you be up for trading

noah->denver
melo and varejo-> chicago
deng-> cleveland using the trade exception.

you'd need to adjust it by add a few other pieces. Next year we could bulk up our dept at guard and center by using up part of our mid level exception for guys like dalembert.

If you find a way to circumvent the salary cap sure. But we don't have enough space to make that deal and I doubt the cavs do it.

 

[NealKleren]

No one is going to give up the assests necessairy to get Melo just for an expiring. There are cheaper expiring deals available. Whoever gets Melo is getting him to sign an extension as part of the deal.

Exactly,thats why it could come down to where he wants to go,if he doesnt sign an extension it would be pointless for the team to trade for him. Thank you for having common sense.

 

[NealKleren]

If you find a way to circumvent the salary cap sure. But we don't have enough space to make that deal and I doubt the cavs do it.

I agree,I dont see the Cavs doing that. I really think we could wait it out longer if we wanted to and have Denver maybe do the deal we would like without giving up Noah but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Adog06]

Since when was Omer Asik untouchable?? lol. This has to come down to a three team trade where Denver gets a big man while we deal Deng and whomever else they want. Im not all for giving up Noah. To me hes too valuable of a defender and rebounder.

 

[pinkizdead]

i think the consensus is that no one wants asik, and his contract cant be traded till later in the year

 

[Adog06]

i think the consensus is that no one wants asik, and his contract cant be traded till later in the year

Hmmm thats probably why then. Then like i said before it has to be a three team deal. Thats the only way the Bulls dont lose Noah and Denver gets their big man.