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It's gonna be nice to one day have a Qb, who doesn't apologists.
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Knox really wasn't garbage though. Again, for a fifth round pick he played well & his production would have warranted him being third round pick. Just because Lovie/Martz had him in the wrong position doesn't mean he was garbage by any means. I'd love to see how this offense would do with Knox being part of it & finally allowed to stretch the field against single coverage.
Neither Knox or Bennett were number one WRs, but nor were they garbage either. Bennett is a decent slot receiver when he stays healthy
Ya can't have a Brandon Marshall type at every WR position.
Whomever said Knox was force fed the ball in Martzs system is a putz the most receptions he ever had under Martz was 51 in 2010 which is low for a guy who is being used as a premier WR, came 40 yards shy of a 1000 season & averaged 18.8 yards per, 5 TD's, only one droped pass. Knoxs production was similar in 2011 in only 14 games with a higher yards per catch average of 19.6 yards, 727 yards, 2 TDs, & 1 dropped pass. After Hanie replaced Cutler he basically had no shot at matching his TD totals from 2010 along with his own injury.
By no means is that pro bowl production, but FAR from being garbage, especially for a fifth round pick. I'd love to see Knox in the offense with Marshall, M. Bennett, Jeffery & Forte.
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I agree drafting QB's should be part of the plan. I just think it's completely unrealistic to think quality QB's are just laying around to be picked up. If the college's keep cranking out guys like RGIII, Wilson, and Luck every year then I'm wrong, it was the start of a trend I didn't recognize. If this isn't a trend, and I'm right, the Bears are up a creek without Cutler. I would just like to hear one slightly realistic option before letting Jay get away.
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Problem is they don't have any options or answers to offer. That would mean the possibility of being proven wrong should their suggested QB's not pan out. And we can't have that. The internet is serious business remember and they have precious internet reps to maintain. So instead it's better to just point to Wilson and Kaepernick and act like their 1 year of success now means finding franchise QB's is a gimme and any team can easily scoop one up with a mid round pick.
To them they don't need to have any answers since it's so easy to get franchise QB's now. Just cut Cutler and draft whatever QB you want! It's fool proof! Last years rookie success proved it's now a guaranteed lock we can just plug in whatever rookie we want and make the playoffs!
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???? what? did I read that wrong? If Cutler improves his TD/Int ratio, basically keeps his mistakes to a minimum and stays healthy you don't see a point in keeping him?
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Dude... Cutler could shatter Rodgers 2011 season td/int ratio while leading the Bears to a SB win and the haters would still whine and want to replace him next year.
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Nobody said it's easy but looking at all the teams last year who had much success with rookies/first year starters/ free agent should make you see it's more than plausible. Why a fan would want their favorite team to stay the course with their very average QB who has been taken to the whipping post far too many times by their main rival, IDK, it defies logic.
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It's also more than plausible that last years success was a fluke and Wilson and Kaepernick will come crashing back down to reality this season. Sorry but 1 year of success does not negate decades of history that proves otherwise. If they end up continuing their success then awesome, I just think it's a little early to be crowning their asses after 1 season and acting like it's now a trivial process to upgrade the QB position.
Who here is suggesting what you're saying exactly? From what I've seen on this board of late most folks are reserving judgment until they see how the season unfolds. I personally have no problems moving on from Cutler if he stinks up the season. But either way the Bears need to draft a QB regardless of how he plays. I just think it's dumb to throw the guy away before you have a better option in place and ready to step in.. which we currently don't have.
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I agree Knox might have been faster and maybe a better athlete but Bennett was always better at catching the ball and running routes.
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Actually, it does, and if history is proving anything, it is that gunslingers are a thing of the past and by the time that trend comes back around again, Jay will be on his 8-10th concussion, and retired. So why would we make a long term commitment to him that would financially strap this team when we could give a draft pick less and accelerate their development because they wont be second fiddle?
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I don't know if you know how rare it is for rookies and first year starters to play at that high level. It's not something that a QB can just luck into. RG3 highest passer rating for a rookie ever. Wilson was right behind him only 2 points less. CK set an all time record against the Packers after starting only for a half season. Had over 100 QB rating in the post season. A fluke? Hell no. Qbs have been pushed harder to get better as the passing game has grown throughout the years. 10 years ago you'd have a handful of QBs with a rating over 90 and a rating of 85 would be considered above average. Now, it's just average and you have about 10 QBs with ratings over 90 and a handful over 100.
The Bears have certainly passed up on some golden opportunities over the years and it's a damn shame. Sometimes teams appear scared to make a move at the position especially when they have an average QB. Might be better to let him go and have that sense of urgency to find a QB. Washington had one of the very worst QB situations in 2011. In 2012 they draft not only a high quality starter by trading up but got a very good backup as well. With a HC like the Bears have now, they shouldn't be fearing whether they can find an average or better QB to replace what they have now.
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That's why I think we should have drafted a qb this year. I wanted to groom a qb just in case. Now we might be keeping Cutler for a year while looking for the replacement...Unless the Bears are willing to roll with Blanchard.
You can find a rookie to start to give you the same type of production, but even that won't be easy to do. Hell, I thought Campbell couldn't have been this bad and yet he had worse production. Unless you saying any rookie we draft next year can be better than Campbell, I disagree with you that you can get a rookie with the same type of production as Cutler.
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Given our history with QBs, Cutler is the best thing this generation has ever seen and we should hold onto that. Rookies like Wilson and Kap don't come along that often and even if they did, we'd pick McNown that round anyway.
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I usually don't like this line of thinking. Just because somebody else who was in charge of the team made stupid mistakes the first time, doesn't mean the new person will make similar mistakes. For all we know, Emery could be good at drafting(Still waiting on that Shea pick to pan out).
However, what I can say is that there is no point of getting rid of Cutler unless we have something equivalent or better in place.
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A side note here, do you guys think Jay is good type of QB to learn under(groom).
