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Leno steps out as if it is a run block. Trubs is suppose to sell the RPO which along with Leno stepping out instead of back would have him thinking run. Instead Trubs doesnt even fake to Monty and is already staring at ARob and starting his throw as Monty is coming for the fake. Trubs rushed the play.

What do you think a wide nine tech is trained to do against a run to the 1 or 0 hole?
 

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The end would have contain anyway, he's not coming up the field it that situation. He probably couldn't even see through Leno to the fake.

Again, there was nothing Mitch could do about this.

If he thinks it is a run he does not drop back which is what he ends up doing.

Do you think the design is for a fake handoff where the QB ignores the fake. What Mitch could do is execute the fake. It is designed that way for a reason.
 

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What do you think a wide nine tech is trained to do against a run to the 1 or 0 hole?

To pursue while keeping outside contain. Not disengage and drop back into passing lane. Trubs doesnt sell the fake and telegraphs the pass. Dont know what else to tell you.
 

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If he thinks it is a run he does not drop back which is what he ends up doing.

Do you think the design is for a fake handoff where the QB ignores the fake. What Mitch could do is execute the fake. It is designed that way for a reason.

No, he's got contain against a run. All he's going to do is maintain outside leverage. No play fake wouldn't have changed where he was at all.
 

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To pursue while keeping outside contain. Not disengage and drop back into passing lane. Trubs doesnt sell the fake and telegraphs the pass. Dont know what else to tell you.

To pursue where? Up field? Through Leno?
 

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Move laterally to his left. Instead he stops and drops back to his right.

If he stays put or moves left a step the lane is there. Instead he drops back right and knocks it down with right outside hand

The play fake like most play fakes is designed to freeze a defeder or have them take step in wrong direction. This guy does opposite because Trubs fails to execute fake.
 

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Nah, very few players lined up in wide 9 are going to cut inside like that when their job is contain for even the best fake. They are pros and they aren't tasked with stopping the RB there unless he bounces it fully outside. Play fakes can freeze ILBs because they have to commit to the run much more aggressively.

He would have been there regardless of the fake.
 

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Nah, very few players lined up in wide 9 are going to cut inside like that when their job is contain for even the best fake. They are pros and they aren't tasked with stopping the RB there unless he bounces it fully outside. Play fakes can freeze ILBs because they have to commit to the run much more aggressively.

He would have been there regardless of the fake.

He doesnt have to cut fully inside. Just freeze for a moment or take a step left. Instead he completely stops his rush and drops back right.
 

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That is the play where he runs to his right instead of steping inside pocket.
 

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He doesnt have to cut fully inside. Just freeze for a moment or take a step left. Instead he completely stops his rush and drops back right.

He did freeze, and then moved left when Trubisky began his motion. Do you honestly think he could look back behind himself to see where the receiver was before the throw?
 

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Nah, very few players lined up in wide 9 are going to cut inside like that when their job is contain for even the best fake. They are pros and they aren't tasked with stopping the RB there unless he bounces it fully outside. Play fakes can freeze ILBs because they have to commit to the run much more aggressively.

He would have been there regardless of the fake.
Pretty much this. More and more NFL teams(college and HS are trying to do it but it's difficult to do with less athletic players) are playing a "Wide 9" look of sorts to gum up teams that like the RPO. It basically eliminates one of the "options" (QB run) from the play and forces it to be a strict give/pass scenario because the DE is already so far outside that he doesn't have any "give" responsibility so there isn't really much for the QB to read other than the ILB or OLB involved in the passing area. What makes this a lot more effective at the NFL level is the more strict(and actually enforced) illegal man down field penalty that prevent an OL from generating as much deception as they do at the college and HS levels.

Certain teams can still make it work but you're seeing a lot more "check with me" or "kills" of RPO's now than previously because of wider ends. Just part of the chess match and league adjusting.
 

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That is the play where he runs to his right instead of steping inside pocket.

It is a half field read to the rightside of the field.

He never looks down the middle because there is nothing to look at. Even the leftside TE is crossing to the right side. Climbing to the pocket actually takes him further from the play.

On the other hand our LT is giving up a short corner to a 210lbs safety.
 

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Said fuck it and bought NFL Game Pass for the lulz and now have access to the all-22.

Figure if enough people are interested I can steam it on Twitch and let you assholes in on the fun.

If nothing else it should prove useful for shutting down the dumb hot takes floating around here.

Speaking of which, just finished watching Mitch's first half vs GB... interesting stuff. The Mitch haters might want to slow their roll. Nagy doing him no favors so far. GB is all over his scheme and play calls. Not seeing many open receivers. Daniels, Long, and Whitehair getting clowned isn't helping matters either. So far I'd say the biggest disappointment is Nagy. He's getting completely out coached and his entire unit looks sloppy and ill prepared.

Curious to see how the 2nd half looks tomorrow... likely more of the same but we'll see.

Regardless, let me know if there's any interest.

I'm so tired of hearing this. No one "hates" dear sweet Mitchell. Literally everyone thinks he's a nice guy, wants him to play great, and take the Bears to a SB victory.
 

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This is the 2nd step of the play.

This looks like zone left.

Preston Smith is playing the run, he has contain, and he is always going to stay outside of Leno because he has contain and there is no one outside of him.

Selling the fake would do nothing to Smith's responsibility.

Throwing the ball to the playside of a play action zone is weird as Smith is suppose to set the edge against Leno and is going to be sitting in the throwing lane.
 

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Here you can see Monty trying to execute fake but Trubs already starting his motion.

The defender is looking at Mitch. At this point if Mitch fakes the handoff the defender does not disengage and drop back right. But Mitch has already started arm motion so the defender stops, disengages and drops back into passing lane.
 

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I think part of the problem, is that people aren't detail oriented enough to dig deeper. The surface sort of feeling is that if your offense doesn't do shit, it's because your QB sucks.

You know who thinks that it's all on your QB? People that just watch the ball.
They ALL sucked this week. You really don't need to dig deep to figure that out. The thing about great QB's is they find a way even if everyone else plays like shit. I've yet to see that from Mitch.
 

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This is the 2nd step of the play.

This looks like zone left.

Preston Smith is playing the run, he has contain, and he is always going to stay outside of Leno because he has contain and there is no one outside of him.

Selling the fake would do nothing to Smith's responsibility.

Throwing the ball to the playside of a play action zone is weird as Smith is suppose to set the edge against Leno and is going to be sitting in the throwing lane.

Again look at backside angle. At this point Mitch is suppose to be showing Smith the fake. This would not cause Smith to disengage. The issue is because instead of a fake he says a throwing motion, Smith disengages and moves further right into passing lane.

Are you telling me if Mitch fakes run that Smith still disengages and moves right into passing lane?
 

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