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Bears Can't Overcome Flus, Waldron & Commanders: Your Top Takeaways
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My take away?
Something in this Team, it's coaching staff, the players, have a serious, never say die attitude. Bears teams past would have folded like a cheap suit. This iteration fought to the end, taking the lead. Yea, they lost on a fluke play. But, props to this teams tenacity.
Something in this Team, it's coaching staff, the players, have a serious, never say die attitude. Bears teams past would have folded like a cheap suit. This iteration fought to the end, taking the lead. Yea, they lost on a fluke play. But, props to this teams tenacity.
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DJ Moore just said he could absolutely see why everyone would be questioning the play calling.
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Caleb had a rough night with accuracy, but pulled it together in the 4th Quarter which was nice to see. The oline was abysmal along with the offensive playcalling. The defense tightened down in the red zone when it mattered which is what kept the game close, but I worry a little bit about the defense giving up the yards outside the 20 as much as they did last night.
We knew that the true measuring stick for this team started with Washington. What we found is that the offensive line, offensive coordinator and head coach all came up way short. Anyone who didn't expect Eberflus to lose a game or two in this fashion this year is fooling themselves. We saw it last year with the Denver and Oakland games. Eberflus is a terrible head coach when the game is on the line and requires strategy and he completely falls apart and snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Eberflus should've over-ruled the stupid goaline call to handoff to a linemen in what looked like a completely unpracticed play based on the mesh and execution. The offense finally takes the lead and you have a defensive minded had coach with a 90%+ win probability. I'm fine with the first pass given up in the middle of the field to burn up their last time out, but playing everyone back for the hail mary on the second to the last play was asinine as they gave up an uncontested 15 yard out. You play that as if the game is on the line because without the 15 yards they can't reach the end zone. Flus still defended it after the game saying it was going to come down to the last play anyways... but you could've strategically put them in a position where the final play couldn't even reach the end zone in the air and required some type of pitch and lateral bull crap to try and get there.
The loss hurts but certainly wasn't unexpected when you look at Flus's resume. As much as I've liked a lot of Poles moves, I said he tied himself to Eberflus by doubling down on him this offseason and not making the coach change when the timing was golden (tons of coaching candidates, new QB coming in, opportunity to reset the entire coaching staff and synch it up with new QB) and now, the cycle is completely off for aligning it with CW's contract and development. It's such a poor decision that I think Poles has to go now with Flus when it happens now. He tied his career to Flus and I don't see a world where we can recruit the best replacement HC knowing that it may be a short 1 or 2 year gig because Poles will be on the hot seat to get it right.
We knew that the true measuring stick for this team started with Washington. What we found is that the offensive line, offensive coordinator and head coach all came up way short. Anyone who didn't expect Eberflus to lose a game or two in this fashion this year is fooling themselves. We saw it last year with the Denver and Oakland games. Eberflus is a terrible head coach when the game is on the line and requires strategy and he completely falls apart and snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Eberflus should've over-ruled the stupid goaline call to handoff to a linemen in what looked like a completely unpracticed play based on the mesh and execution. The offense finally takes the lead and you have a defensive minded had coach with a 90%+ win probability. I'm fine with the first pass given up in the middle of the field to burn up their last time out, but playing everyone back for the hail mary on the second to the last play was asinine as they gave up an uncontested 15 yard out. You play that as if the game is on the line because without the 15 yards they can't reach the end zone. Flus still defended it after the game saying it was going to come down to the last play anyways... but you could've strategically put them in a position where the final play couldn't even reach the end zone in the air and required some type of pitch and lateral bull crap to try and get there.
The loss hurts but certainly wasn't unexpected when you look at Flus's resume. As much as I've liked a lot of Poles moves, I said he tied himself to Eberflus by doubling down on him this offseason and not making the coach change when the timing was golden (tons of coaching candidates, new QB coming in, opportunity to reset the entire coaching staff and synch it up with new QB) and now, the cycle is completely off for aligning it with CW's contract and development. It's such a poor decision that I think Poles has to go now with Flus when it happens now. He tied his career to Flus and I don't see a world where we can recruit the best replacement HC knowing that it may be a short 1 or 2 year gig because Poles will be on the hot seat to get it right.
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I am starting to wonder if the reason Flus was kept was to sell consistency to Caleb so he doesn't pull an Eli Manning in the draft.
Bears have him now, so they are free to jettison Flus at the end of the season.
I actually expect it to happen now.
Poles got personally embarrassed. He doesn't go for that shit.
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He has 4 games in which he single handedly cost them a victory. Denver, Detroit, Cleveland, and now this.
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Lol so a storm is coming to Flus?
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My post is about msadows losing a bet and being angry. Nothing to do with CW.
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2 receptions for your best WR is pathetic.
You have to manufacture touches for your best players if you can't get it to them in the flow of the offense. We don't do that.
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Can the Bears hire a coach who can magically make Generationalliams complete a pass vs a D that is ranked above 28th in the NFL?
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But there would have been more time on the clock if they ran the ball and scored there. What's your point.
That pass was inconsequential.
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Hmmmm, so this means that, if Flus hadn’t lost those 3 games, the Justin Fields-led Bears would have won 10 games last year and been in the playoffs, even though they had a terrible O-Line, no Keenan or Rome, Luke Getsy as OC, and rookie Dexter at DT.
There were a lot of posters that tried to explain this to some of you at the time.
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I really don’t think Flus makes it past this season, even with 8 or 9 wins. Poles knows his job would be on the hot seat too if he keeps Flus around for another season. There is no point in keeping Flus, having a new OC and starting all over again in 2 years. I really don’t see this team winning 8-9 games with how the rest of the schedule looks.
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If you blame Caleb for losing yesterday, you have to blame Justin for losing to Cleveland. He was brutal in that game, though under pressure, and the D had a pick 6 and another INT that they returned inside the 1. Offense scored 3 points, not counting a 5 play 1 yard drive.
He even had the same airmailed screen pass in that one.
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You guys are insane if you think Flus called a bad game. He held a high scoring offense to 12 until the last second.
The D has shown up and performed. Those 4 games he lost could have gone either way. If we simulate those scenarios out over 1,000X his strategy is the correct one.
The D has shown up and performed. Those 4 games he lost could have gone either way. If we simulate those scenarios out over 1,000X his strategy is the correct one.
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And if they ran it and were stopped the clock would have kept running. Whatever the case and whoever called it the play was friggin dumb
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He is the head coach, not the defensive coordinator. He is responsible for everything and no doubt as the head coach had veto power on the asinine Kramer play.