Bears make offer to buy Arlington Park

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It's also well documented that states, counties, and cities get back less than they give away when they pay for stadiums. There is plenty of evidence that targeted public investment in businesses can help local economies but if that is the goal then public financing of a new Bears stadium is the last way to achieve it.

Why it will happen anyway is that politicians basically suck.

Below is the first link that came up when I googled "study on results of public stadium financing." If you can find a legit study that says otherwise by all means post it and I'll be happy to read it.

Apologies. I don’t think we’re talking at cross purposes. I understood your post to mean that businesses don’t contribute in a meaningful way to the surrounding area financially.

I agree with your point, and do not see why a private organization should be subsidized by the taxpayer.

My overall point is it is not hard to see why they want to move, given the high tax rate in the city and the utter mismanagement and corruption surrounding how that money is spent, not withstanding the higher taxes they’d have to pay, as well.
 

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This shows how the Bears ownership about Chicago, or Bears fans that live in the city and fill their seats. They are showing themselves to be moneygrubbers interested in their pocketbooks rather than operating a team with a history in the city that helped make the Bears what they are. I became a Bears fan in 1964, I will stop being a Bears the day they leave the city...I know I am in the minority so don't pile on.
The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.

That's old school thinking, your time has passed.

The rest of us want to see a state of the art future proof stadium with all the amenities. Retractable roof, stadium wifi, great food, skyboxes etc. Make it the envy of the league.
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a
The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.
As a fellow southsider, i would like to offer that most of the people who can afford season tickets probably live nowhere near us
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.

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To be honest, any person who does not live in the city really has no right to speak on this subject. The Bears are apart of OUR community not your's, we drive by the stadium every day on Lake Shore Drive, you guys come to town for work or on the weekends and leave. That is the extent of your relationship to Chicago and Soldier Field, yall are tourists. It's our team first and foremost. Some people literally do not have cars, this is a major public transportation city you can see every single team (Hawks, Bulls, Sox, Cubs), the biggest team in the city moving 30 minutes away to some dead suburb is crazy. The suburbs already have all the amenities, stay the fuck away from our teams.
Technically it's Decatur's team then.
 

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If you have to drive by the stadium daily as a chicagoan, you need a better job unless you are a hostess at mccormick place
 
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@zack54attack i always forget do you live here? The difference about getting there vs soldier field is a lot more than 30 minutes but I don’t disagree with the plan and find some my fellow chicagoans’s provincialism about it embarrassing
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.
Imagine making this argument about a team that was founded in Central Illinois, and headquartered in the Northern Suburbs.
 

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Does this mean when the Bears are bad we can refer to them as horseshit ?
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.
The politicians in the city abandoned everyone there years ago. Ridiculous crime, gladiator academies that are disguised as public schools, and high as hell taxes that pay for…oh yeah, the kickbacks that the politically connected people pocket off your back.

Most rational people don’t like that. Nothing to do with dems or repubs, happens on both sides. Chicago just happens to be notorious for it.

It’s not really your city anymore, it’s theirs. And ironically they stay in power solely because of the very people they exploit.

That said, Soldier Field does have a lot of history. Not really sure how I feel about a move yet.
 

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We all know that a stadium in Arlington is going to have some stupid commercial name like Fannie Mae Field or Dollar Tree Field, after all this is about $$$$ and not the soul of the team. Front office has given us no Super Bowl rings in almost 40 years, but they are more concerned about building a new stadium in the boondocks to get the revenue of hosting a Super Bowl for some OTHER scrub ass team to play in. This is a joke to anyone who actually lives in the city. Im saying all of this and I dont even like Soldier Field.

"Bear Fans deserve a modern stadium" OMFG THEY READ MY POSTS!

 
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Not really I doubt the NFL is interested in the Bears making that sort of statement when there are various large land parcels available all over Chicago .

As I said this is a non-starter
You are delusional
 

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They most certainly could figure it out the McCaskey's just dont want to spend the money to figure it out.
Seriously you're like a walking billboard for the troglodyte version of Bears fans... All meatball and stupidity.

Hur..durr...cheap Mccaskeys!

Seriously, you are your own punchline.
 

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I don't think the taxpayers should be on the hook for any professional sports arena/stadium.
No taxpayer ever does and yet every time there's a new stadium built, the taxpayers and the pain. Every time.

You won't get to have a say in it so to me it's a moot point.
 

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