Bears will field a playoff-caliber defense

[ruprecht]

I had to check, but yes this was originally about defense. I do believe they will be playoff caliber.

 

[xer0h0ur]

Grossman came out of his NFC championship holding the Halas trophy. Cutler came out of his a national laughing stock.

I know which legacy I'd rather have.

Not surprised in the least you would choose to be a loser laughingstock. You would feel right at home.

 

[BearsFan51]

Anti-Cutler thread?

No, the simple fundamental reality of the job of an NFL QB.

 

[ruprecht]

No, the simple fundamental reality of the job of an NFL QB.

But this thread is about defense.

 

[ruprecht]

Not surprised in the least you would choose to be a loser laughingstock. You would feel right at home.

Thinking about Grossman makes me want to take a playoff caliber dump.

 

[truthbedamned]

No, the simple fundamental reality of the job of an NFL QB.

I read the title to this thread and never saw the word offense in it nor the OP post. Yet people here have the need to turn every single mother fucking god damned thread into a bash Jay the fuck Cutler. Give it a fucking rest

Thank you very much......carry on

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

Reading comprehension anyone?

What does that mean?

 

[Monk]

Yeah? Sometimes I think that guy just like to preach da negativity

Ares alt alert!!!

 

[nc0gnet0]

By definition, the Washington Redskins last year had a "play-off caliber" Defense, so what does this even mean?

 

[BearsFan51]

But this thread is about defense.

The article states the Bears will field a playoff capable defense..... and then says but...

 

[BearsFan51]

By definition, the Washington Redskins last year had a "play-off caliber" Defense, so what does this even mean?

It means that the defense could be so good that despite having an anemic offense the Bears could still make the playoffs.

 

[ruprecht]

The article states the Bears will field a playoff capable defense..... and then says but...

Thats nice.

 

[jive]

This defense will be a playoff caliber D, no doubt.
The problem last year was that the D couldn't shut out a team last year when we had a lead. Lovie's D and special teams won games for us, literally. But we have a better offense and better weapons than that era. This D just needs to be able to close out a game, and stop the run. Tucker just sucked, and even though the Bears were putting up enough points to have the 2nd best offense, we couldn't stop the run. I remember the Philly game in 2013 where it seemed like anyone would get 5-10 yards per carry. Even though we were still in playoff contention, I knew we'd be one and done. Tucker 2.0 was even worse, and he deserved to be canned after the NE and GB games.

But last year, the D had a couple of atrocious games, but there were glimmers of hope. If not for their inability to close out games, we could have been 10-6. In the losses to DET, MIN, and SF, we had the lead with 5 minutes or less and let the opponent score the tying or winning score. In the game against WAS, we let them get the winning field goal with a little over a minute left of a tie game. If we got the 2 point conversion against DEN to tie the game, we could have won in OT putting us at 11-5, which would be a playoff team in most divisions.

We've vastly improved our LBs, which should exorcize the demons of the Tucker era. We added pass rushing ability and speed, which should help us tee off on obvious passing downs when we have a lead. We still have questions in the secondary, but if we get improvement there along with the pass rush, we should be able to finish off the games where we have a lead. Unless everyone totally busts, we should get to 10-6 with an easier schedule, as long as we get some production out of our rookies. If they live up to the hype, 11-5/12-4 is not out of the question.

 

[policeman]

I'm still a bit worried about the secondary. But the improved pass rush and front seven ought to be a huge help to that unit.

 

[nc0gnet0]

This defense will be a playoff caliber D, no doubt.
The problem last year was that the D couldn't shut out a team last year when we had a lead. Lovie's D and special teams won games for us, literally. But we have a better offense and better weapons than that era. This D just needs to be able to close out a game, and stop the run. Tucker just sucked, and even though the Bears were putting up enough points to have the 2nd best offense, we couldn't stop the run. I remember the Philly game in 2013 where it seemed like anyone would get 5-10 yards per carry. Even though we were still in playoff contention, I knew we'd be one and done. Tucker 2.0 was even worse, and he deserved to be canned after the NE and GB games.

But last year, the D had a couple of atrocious games, but there were glimmers of hope. If not for their inability to close out games, we could have been 10-6. In the losses to DET, MIN, and SF, we had the lead with 5 minutes or less and let the opponent score the tying or winning score. In the game against WAS, we let them get the winning field goal with a little over a minute left of a tie game. If we got the 2 point conversion against DEN to tie the game, we could have won in OT putting us at 11-5, which would be a playoff team in most divisions.

We've vastly improved our LBs, which should exorcize the demons of the Tucker era. We added pass rushing ability and speed, which should help us tee off on obvious passing downs when we have a lead. We still have questions in the secondary, but if we get improvement there along with the pass rush, we should be able to finish off the games where we have a lead. Unless everyone totally busts, we should get to 10-6 with an easier schedule, as long as we get some production out of our rookies. If they live up to the hype, 11-5/12-4 is not out of the question.

You can "if" your way to the Superbowl almost every year. I can also "if" us to a 2-14 record.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I'm still a bit worried about the secondary. But the improved pass rush and front seven ought to be a huge help to that unit.

I'm still not sold on the pass rush. I think we will be stout against the run. I think teams will still be able to dink and dunk there way against us, and the deep ball is a concern as well. Thing is, Pace is building a run stopping machine in a division that is pass happy.

 

[Bear Pride]

I'm still not sold on the pass rush. I think we will be stout against the run. I think teams will still be able to dink and dunk there way against us, and the deep ball is a concern as well. Thing is, Pace is building a run stopping machine in a division that is pass happy.

I couldn't disagree more. Our two new ILB's are two of the best coverage LB's in the NFL. Also, Floyd can cover as well. Besides, it was our run defense that wasn't good last year, not our pass defense. Our DB's actually played pretty good in pass coverage.

I completely disagree that team will be dink & Dunking against a Fangio defense. LOL.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I couldn't disagree more. Our two new ILB's are two of the best coverage LB's in the NFL. Also, Floyd can cover as well. Besides, it was our run defense that wasn't good last year, not our pass defense. Our DB's actually played pretty good in pass coverage.

I completely disagree that team will be dink & Dunking against a Fangio defense. LOL.

If you have a team that isn't good against the run, teams tend to run more against you, and not pass as much. It creates the illusion that your secondary is better than it really is. At any rate, we will see.

 

[mecha]

If you have a team that isn't good against the run, teams tend to run more against you, and not pass as much. It creates the illusion that your secondary is better than it really is. At any rate, we will see.

I'm quite certain they were one of the higher ranked defenses against the pass last year. top 10 in the very least, which is a miracle considering how strapped for talent they were.

people keep overlooking the fact that they narrowly lost a majority of games. while they finished 6-10, they could've easily finished 10-6. so for the 753rd time I'm going to say this, that was a marked improvement over being down 50 points at halftime.

Fox had a few miscues in coaching. Gould missed a few kicks he should've made that cost some games. it's not really relevant if they made the playoffs last year anyway as they would've probably gotten massacred by one of the others.

just like last year, I fail to understand how so many people think the team is regressing when they're actually making positive changes. you could all alternatively just stfu until they start playing real games again, spare yourselves the agony and bitching like a bunch of old ladies about nothing. I get it though, a lot of you act like posting at CCS is a full-time job, you have to feel like you're contributing something. go write next year's mock draft or something, waste more of your time on pointless nonsense.

 

[Bear Pride]

If you have a team that isn't good against the run, teams tend to run more against you, and not pass as much. It creates the illusion that your secondary is better than it really is. At any rate, we will see.

Agreed, I think that's a good point. I do think Fuller and Porter still played pretty well, however. We do need a young guy to step up at nickel, I like Hall for that spot right now. I also think we could still add a veteran CB yet with the upcoming cuts, but we'll see. We can both agree, I think, that a better front 7 should make it much easier.