Bears will field a playoff-caliber defense

[dafridge72]

I'm quite certain they were one of the higher ranked defenses against the pass last year. top 10 in the very least, which is a miracle considering how strapped for talent they were.

people keep overlooking the fact that they narrowly lost a majority of games. while they finished 6-10, they could've easily finished 10-6. so for the 753rd time I'm going to say this, that was a marked improvement over being down 50 points at halftime.

Fox had a few miscues in coaching. Gould missed a few kicks he should've made that cost some games. it's not really relevant if they made the playoffs last year anyway as they would've probably gotten massacred by one of the others.

just like last year, I fail to understand how so many people think the team is regressing when they're actually making positive changes. you could all alternatively just stfu until they start playing real games again, spare yourselves the agony and bitching like a bunch of old ladies about nothing. I get it though, a lot of you act like posting at CCS is a full-time job, you have to feel like you're contributing something. go write next year's mock draft or something, waste more of your time on pointless nonsense.

in 2015 - Bears Defense Rankings were Pass - 4th Rushing - 22nd Total Yds - 14th

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Not worried about the defense but the offense they are fielding going to be below average

 

[stallan54]

So we have an easier schedule.

Added about 4-5 starters on defense.

Added a ton of depth on the OL(granted its still not the best unit in the nfl)

Added a first round superstar potential Wideout



But we finish with the same record we did last year playing guys off the street, huh? Whatever you say boss

Agree.. Whoever has a 6-10 mindset should just jump ship and go root for the Rams or something. This is a guy who comes home from work with dinner on the table and his wife in sheer and goes to sit on the couch. Must suck to live with such negativity. He must be #NeverTrump

 

[nc0gnet0]

I'm quite certain they were one of the higher ranked defenses against the pass last year. top 10 in the very least, which is a miracle considering how strapped for talent they were.

I already addressed this, and last year was last year. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to identify the weakest(s) link on the defense this this year, and that is:


Secondary
1) Lack of depth and quality in the back field. Perhaps this is the year Fuller puts it all together, or he regress's, I don't know. I do think it is a make or break year for him. I do not share the same Kool-Aid drinking optimism that a few mid-late draft picks are going to step in and be an immediate improvement to what we already had. Can they develop into NFL level talent? Maybe......first year? I highly doubt it.

Pass Rush
2) We added a speed rushing specialist Floyd, a player with a lot of potential, but not a lot of size. I expect maybe a 4-6 sack season with perhaps a few more pressures tossed in the mix. I also expect a few rookie mistakes. In other words, the Bears pass rush will be nothing special, but improved over it's anemic performance of 2015. However, if Floyd works out and develops, it might continue to improve. We also picked up Hicks, a chronically underperforming DE/DL player that flashed some usability last season with the Pats, albeit mainly in a stretch of three games. He will help, but don't expect miracles either.

people keep overlooking the fact that they narrowly lost a majority of games. while they finished 6-10, they could've easily finished 10-6. so for the 753rd time I'm going to say this, that was a marked improvement over being down 50 points at halftime.

I hear this narrative a lot. So, in essence, Fox employed a bend but don't break defense, and a conservative offense to slow the games down, and keep them close. Keep in mind we didn't have a lot of blow out wins last year either, and by your same diagnosis, could have easily lost 3-4 more games that were "close". The fact that we lost more "close" games then we won is a cause for concern, and the fact our offense was not addressed as much as I would have liked does nothing to imagine this will have changed much this year. You might want to also examine the second half of the year, in which the Bears went 1-5 in their last 6 games after an emotional win in Greenbay.

Fox had a few miscues in coaching. Gould missed a few kicks he should've made that cost some games. it's not really relevant if they made the playoffs last year anyway as they would've probably gotten massacred by one of the others.

We also beat the raiders by 2 points, the Chiefs by one point, the chargers by three, the packers by four, and the Bucs by five. The only convincing win we had the entire year was over the Rams. We also went 1-5 in the division.

just like last year, I fail to understand how so many people think the team is regressing when they're actually making positive changes. you could all alternatively just stfu until they start playing real games again, spare yourselves the agony and bitching like a bunch of old ladies about nothing. I get it though, a lot of you act like posting at CCS is a full-time job, you have to feel like you're contributing something. go write next year's mock draft or something, waste more of your time on pointless nonsense.

And a lot of you kool-aid drinking homers suckling at the teets of Pace and Fox should slow your roll a bit. Anyone that actually tries to make an honest assessment of the team, and not immediately think that two mid round Db's, a fifth round RB, and a effing 7th round Wr, are all going to step in and be immediate success's, are immediately referred to as negative. Get a clue, the correct term is realist. If one of these pan out we should be happy.

We added some nice talent in FA. We did not add any game changing talent. Are we improved? Certainly, but how that will translate into an improved record is nothing but a guess at this point, on paper, maybe 7-9 to 8-8. If you don't like my assessment, take it up with the sharps in Vegas.

 

[Washington]

If you have a team that isn't good against the run, teams tend to run more against you, and not pass as much. It creates the illusion that your secondary is better than it really is. At any rate, we will see.

You are correct. On paper, we looked awesome against the pass as we were ranked 4th. But, we were tied for 22nd against the run so teams ran more on us making it look like the pass defense was much better than it was.

In yards per game, we were 14th so on the better side of middle of the pack. In points per game, we were 20th. Not nearly as bad on any account when you look at the lack of talent Fangio had to work with.

I believe we've improved against the run and with a better pass rush, we should still hold our own against the pass. I believe the secondary will be improved too. I'm not sure we're a top 10 team but we should be close.

 

[Novak]

Are we the Monsters of the Midway again? Are the baers gonna shock the world? Who's bringing the fog machines???

 

[hyatt151]

It's the Pop Warner offense that worries me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[modo]

It's the Pop Warner offense that worries me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

some of those are pretty good.......we'll be alright.

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[Chinese]

Thinking about Grossman makes me want to take a playoff caliber dump.

Thats Gross....man!

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[nc0gnet0]

You are correct. On paper, we looked awesome against the pass as we were ranked 4th. But, we were tied for 22nd against the run so teams ran more on us making it look like the pass defense was much better than it was.

In yards per game, we were 14th so on the better side of middle of the pack. In points per game, we were 20th. Not nearly as bad on any account when you look at the lack of talent Fangio had to work with.

I believe we've improved against the run and with a better pass rush, we should still hold our own against the pass. I believe the secondary will be improved too. I'm not sure we're a top 10 team but we should be close.

I have no qualms against what you said here, but to address the Bolded statement, that is a product of a bend but don't break D and a conservative ball control Offense. Nothing against that, it was the correct approach to use given the lack of talent Fox had to work with. But, as I have said repeatedly, I am not happy with the moves made to the offense, and it is the red zone (not to be confused with goal line for all you Howard lovers) that is still a major cause for concern. The inability to capitalize on scoring opportunities is what will make or break this team.

 

[Probie2429]

6-10 at best. FOr a coach who supposedly wants to control the ball a lot, he doesn't have a good offensive ine nor quality running backs.

That's why it's called rebuilding. It takes a few years to do it right. This is really year 1 of the Pace/Fox regime, and they are clearly putting their stamp on the team. The roster turnover in the last year has been very good. When things aren't working, you try something different.

 

[nc0gnet0]

That's why it's called rebuilding. It takes a few years to do it right. This is really year 1 of the Pace/Fox regime, and they are clearly putting their stamp on the team. The roster turnover in the last year has been very good. When things aren't working, you try something different.

No matter how you spin it, this is year two. Coaches usually have a three year window to show marked improvement in a team. If you want to change definitions, then the window would only be two years for improvement.

 

[dabears70]

He might be garbage, but he's got memories Jay Cutler will never have.

And he only has those memories because he was playing with a great defense.

 

[DBCOOPER]

Not worried about the defense but the offense they are fielding going to be below average

If our receivers aren't the walking wounded again we should be at least as good than last season, if not better.

 

[dabears70]

Not worried about the defense but the offense they are fielding going to be below average

I think you and some others are being way to quick to judge how good or bad our offense will be and think there's a very good chance that you and the others will be surprised and i can't wait to see you guys eat some crow.

 

[NCChiFan]

No matter how you spin it, this is year two. Coaches usually have a three year window to show marked improvement in a team. If you want to change definitions, then the window would only be two years for improvement.

Well, if that is your deteriner, Fox and Co. have already shown marked improvement.

 

[Probie2429]

No matter how you spin it, this is year two. Coaches usually have a three year window to show marked improvement in a team. If you want to change definitions, then the window would only be two years for improvement.

They have already done that. Year 1 is teardown and assess mode and clearing out the holdovers from the previous regime. Years 2 and 3 are building years with the vision of the new regime, and hopefully year 4 is the year the team starts garnering consideration as a contender.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Well, if that is your deteriner, Fox and Co. have already shown marked improvement.

By having one more win then the previous regime, while going 1-5 in the conference? Slight improvement at best, sorry.

 

[nc0gnet0]

They have already done that. Year 1 is teardown and assess mode and clearing out the holdovers from the previous regime. Years 2 and 3 are building years with the vision of the new regime, and hopefully year 4 is the year the team starts garnering consideration as a contender.

Year 4 they "start" garnering attention as a contender? Really? Does that equate to in year 5 they "are" a serious contender, and do you really think Pace & Co. have that much time?

 

[ruprecht]

Are we the Monsters of the Midway again? Are the baers gonna shock the world? Who's bringing the fog machines???

Did you mean Munsters ?