Blackhawks 2022-23 SEASON THREAD

[KBIB]

Tinordi and Domi, I'd be fine with keeping them. That's assuming Domi doesn't want the moon. You need sandpaper on a rebuilding team.

That said, if you can get a good haul for Domi at the deadline, you move him. Athanisiou, I think you move him no matter what.

I don't see any scenario where Toews is reupped. Love the guy, love what he did for this franchise, but that would be a big mistake to re-sign him. I think he retires at the year's end, which I'd almost be happy about. He could say he played his entire career with one team, and we as fans wouldn't have to stomach seeing him in another uniform. Sure, we'd miss out on some sort of return (who knows what that would be), but still, I'd be fine with it.

I don’t know…. I think Toews get traded. His faceoffs alone will keep him in the nhl well past his due date (which was a couple years ago).

I really wouldn’t be shocked if he returned a late first. GM’s love their vets at the deadline. Plus, the guy is a winner on a loaded team.

 

[KBIB]

I was thinking more that Johnson would be taking up a spot for a guy they could showcase to trade cuz I don't think he's moving like you said but who knows.

The guys gonna play a couple games then get injured again.

Karpotsev V2.0

 

[KBIB]

I am starting to think about keeping some guys like Tinordi, Domi, Anathssou who are scheme fits.

The reason is you can trade them for value next year.

The case to keep Kane and Toews is this ...

Toews may not bring back much with his salary. He is ready for pasture but retirement with hawks may be near. With Toews I say you do whatever Toews asks and not worry about return.

Kane on the other hand ...is a what if you do land Bedard.

Bedard-Anathosou-Kane,
Reichel-Domi-Russian phenom
BigJ-Toews-Lafferty,

How do Bedards line mates compare to McDavids in jr's? McDavid certainly had NHL help next to him.

I don’t want AA anywhere near what could be magic. I’d rather they sign Domi and put him there.

I kind of think Lafferty is good as gone. Too many rumors that the ask is a second rounder for him, which the Hawks should take and run laughing.

 

[MassHavoc]

The guys gonna play a couple games then get injured again.

Karpotsev V2.0

Queue Pat Foley

 

[ytsejam]

Queue Pat Foley

 

[Raskolnikov]

Reminds me of when things all went wrong for Hawks dynasty.

Trading a guy out at the peak of a franchise best 13 game winning streak.

This story is the prelude. Because who the **** would break up the longest streak unit without injury?

Well the fast little dip shit killing it on the fourth line with Shaw had to hook a guys neck from the bench.

You need guys who approach the line in NHL, but they need to have even more self control than the rest to do so effectively.

 

[Granada]

I don’t know…. I think Toews get traded. His faceoffs alone will keep him in the nhl well past his due date (which was a couple years ago).

I really wouldn’t be shocked if he returned a late first. GM’s love their vets at the deadline. Plus, the guy is a winner on a loaded team.

It wouldn't surprise me if he gets traded. I feel like he's done enough to warrant interest from another team, especially on a 3LC role. Yet, I'm not sold that he wants to do that at this point in his career. Could totally be wrong of course, but it's not like the guy has never won the Cup before and I just can't see him jumping at the opportunity to be a bottom-six player who barely plays after being a Captain on an original-six franchise for his entire career. I guess it will come down to whether or not his love of the game will trump his pride, but you also factor in his health status, let alone his age. It would almost be an easier decision to retire for him.

If you could get a late 1st for Toews, you run and never look back. I would be surprised if he fetches that high, but then again, I don't know the market this year. The only way I see that happening is if a team is utterly desperate and has no other options, but even then, I don't think I'd bet on it.

 

[Diehardfan]

It wouldn't surprise me if he gets traded. I feel like he's done enough to warrant interest from another team, especially on a 3LC role. Yet, I'm not sold that he wants to do that at this point in his career. Could totally be wrong of course, but it's not like the guy has never won the Cup before and I just can't see him jumping at the opportunity to be a bottom-six player who barely plays after being a Captain on an original-six franchise for his entire career. I guess it will come down to whether or not his love of the game will trump his pride, but you also factor in his health status, let alone his age. It would almost be an easier decision to retire for him.

If you could get a late 1st for Toews, you run and never look back. I would be surprised if he fetches that high, but then again, I don't know the market this year. The only way I see that happening is if a team is utterly desperate and has no other options, but even then, I don't think I'd bet on it.

Watch for injuries to top 6 centermen on Cup contending teams.....I believe a low 1st or second might be had in that type of a scenario.

 

[LordKOTL]

If Cat and Dach weren’t safe I don’t see why Reichel is.

The right priced can will get kicked down the road I would imagine, especially with a forward.

True...on second thought. Reichel may not be untouchable, but on the other hand he's relatively unproven at the NHL level. In his case I think there might be a breakover point where the 'hawk just take the receiving assets and run. But if that's not hit me might as well be kept.

El Gato and Dach were known NHL quantities. Reichel really isn't at this point. He was a 17OA pick, and I think the 'hawks will want something the the ballpark of that for him--a pick or a similar grade prospect with upside. There might not be any GMs offering that even though he's not in the league mainly because the 'hawks are taking and he's looked decent enough while up.

I think he's more of the type of move to be made at the draft, to be honest. Maybe an accessory piece at the TDL. But he's got a really low cap hit next year on an expiring contract and is not arbitration eligible. I could be wrong and someone takes a chance on him and throws us something good.

I don’t know…. I think Toews get traded. His faceoffs alone will keep him in the nhl well past his due date (which was a couple years ago).

I really wouldn’t be shocked if he returned a late first. GM’s love their vets at the deadline. Plus, the guy is a winner on a loaded team.

I agree. In fact, how long did Yannik Perrault remain? I think the only hurdle for Toews is waiving. I think he'll command something good--maybe not the motherlode since he will be going into a 35+ contract, but something respectable enough to jump on.

It wouldn't surprise me if he gets traded. I feel like he's done enough to warrant interest from another team, especially on a 3LC role. Yet, I'm not sold that he wants to do that at this point in his career. Could totally be wrong of course, but it's not like the guy has never won the Cup before and I just can't see him jumping at the opportunity to be a bottom-six player who barely plays after being a Captain on an original-six franchise for his entire career. I guess it will come down to whether or not his love of the game will trump his pride, but you also factor in his health status, let alone his age. It would almost be an easier decision to retire for him.

If you could get a late 1st for Toews, you run and never look back. I would be surprised if he fetches that high, but then again, I don't know the market this year. The only way I see that happening is if a team is utterly desperate and has no other options, but even then, I don't think I'd bet on it.

I agree on taking the 1st and running. I think interest will be there for him if he waives, but you're right, he may not be chasing a cup at his age--he's already got 3.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I wonder if Toews could put the Bruins over the top rather than Kaner?

He would have some speed and skill on a strong third line and give them another circle dominator while getting alot more rest than usual.

Remember when Toews could score goals?

 

[KBIB]

Well, Kane ain’t going to the Rangers now.

 

[MassHavoc]

Well, Kane ain’t going to the Rangers now.

Interestingly we now probably know the asking price is now.

 

[Granada]

Well, Kane ain’t going to the Rangers now.

First thing I thought when I saw this. Gotta think Carolina is the front runner now: great team in need; plenty of cap space; great coach anyone would love to play for in Brindamour; some familiar teammates in De Haan, TT, Raanta.

 

[KBIB]

Interestingly we now probably know the asking price is now.

If a beat up Tarasenko returned a first, mid pick, and scraps we do know Kane will get at least a first.

Can’t say I’m mad

 

[MassHavoc]

If a beat up Tarasenko returned a first, mid pick, and scraps we do know Kane will get at least a first.

Can’t say I’m mad

Yeah I was thinking the hold up was they are asking full value for Kane.

 

[ytsejam]

Dammit!

 

[KBIB]

Hawks are trading Kane to the oilers

 

[Granada]

Hawks are trading Kane to the oilers

Think you're referring to this rumor: Oilers & Blackhawks Have Deal in Pocket for Patrick Kane [Report]

 

[MassHavoc]

Think you're referring to this rumor: Oilers & Blackhawks Have Deal in Pocket for Patrick Kane [Report]

which is actually just stealing from this article. Things We Know: Should the Oilers target a top 6 forward at the deadline?


"My sources tell me the Blackhawks would retain half of Kane’s $10.5 million salary, take Warren Foegele and Jesse Puljujarvi to make the money work, and require a first-round pick and a prospect — not Holloway or Broberg — in return."

 

[Raskolnikov]

which is actually just stealing from this article. Things We Know: Should the Oilers target a top 6 forward at the deadline?


"My sources tell me the Blackhawks would retain half of Kane’s $10.5 million salary, take Warren Foegele and Jesse Puljujarvi to make the money work, and require a first-round pick and a prospect — not Holloway or Broberg — in return."

It's so specific!

Lol, I mean that's why I kinda believe it's possible.

In addition to Kane losing poker face and giving away he is on the move, his salary makes a delay highly plausible. They may want to wait until the last day possible to absorb the smallest salary.

I also see Toews "illness" as a signal that a deal has been done where delay reduces salary and the team wants Toews rested and risk lowered.

If @KBIB is to be believed, this is another overloaded COVID impacted draft where a top 40 pick is money in the bank.