Buff, Eager and Sopel to ATL

[Guest]

[quote name="DBQHawkFan"]



Where is Huet going? Rockford? Doubt anyone will take him.[/quote]



Yup, or the KHL. One or the two. If this organization has any desire to repeat Huet must be gone in a way NONE of his salary comes back to haunt them. No buy out, or recall to allow another team to take him at half. Neither of those can happen.

 

[Larmer83]

[quote name="DBQHawkFan"]Very sad to see Buff go. We just got softer in my opinion, but I guess we had to do it. Another thing I have questions about is getting draft picks. We just had to let Sweatt go because we don't have cap space to sign him. If we continue to get good picks, wll we be able to resign them after their initial contract or just have to let them walk away like Sweatt. We get nothing back for him.[/quote]

From what I read, the decision to not sign with the Hawks may be just as much his than it is the Hawks. Sweatt completed 4 years of college hockey and as of July 1 can be a UFA.



Edit: It is August 16 when he is a UFA

 

[DBQHawkFan]

[quote name="R K"]



He wanted a huge contract. He didn't want to be behind all the players already here depth wise and it appears he'd rather jump right into the NHL verses the AHL.



I don't think it had to do with our Cap woes so much as his agent demanding serious money's. He's using that as an excuse. We hold his rights until August. Long after we'd have Cap relief for such a small contract.



That mentioned I find his comments on the Hawks in the following article disheartening and glad the little **** is going elsewhere.



He was rooting for the Flyers too. Asswipe.



http://nortonsports.com/former-elburn-resident-sweatt-ready-to-start-career-outside-of-chicago/[/quote]



Won't all of our future first round picks want big bucks??? I know he wasn't a first, but I was hearing good things about him. So after their first contracts, we have to let these guys walk if they haven't made the big club? Just wondering.

 

[DBQHawkFan]

[quote name="R K"]



Yup, or the KHL. One or the two. If this organization has any desire to repeat Huet must be gone in a way NONE of his salary comes back to haunt them. No buy out, or recall to allow another team to take him at half. Neither of those can happen.[/quote]



You think the KHL will want him? Sounds like Rocky is going to pay an AHL goalie $5 mil. They tried to get Khabby to the KHLand that didn't work, although it worked out well for the Hawks in the end that he didn't go.

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

Huet? Who gives a shit where he goes. There is no way that he will ever wear the IndianHead again or that a penny of his contract will count against the cap next year. That's all that matters.



-5Minutes

 

[Guest]

You might not keep all of them. You might be able to afford them, you might not. Entry level contracts are not something to worry about. Especially with players that have yet to prove anything and weren't high picks.



Three years is a long time. Sweatt left because he didn't see having a shot in the NHL in Chicago. He was probably right with all the depth in top 6 the Hawks have.



It's a good problem IMO as long as you continue filling the pipeline you should be good.



With this trade the Hawks now have 5 picks in the top 60, in a VERY deep draft. Not to mention some talent still in the pipeline other than Bill Sweatt who opted to stay in college rather than try to make this team the last two years.

 

[Guest]

[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]Huet? Who gives a shit where he goes. There is no way that he will ever wear the IndianHead again or that a penny of his contract will count against the cap next year. That's all that matters.



-5Minutes[/quote]



We can only hope. There was discussion of him being bought out. Which most definitely means his contract would haunt this team for the next four years (twice the length of the contract) at a tune of 1.7 mil per season. You will see if Rocky is serious about this team IF he willingly eats the 11.2 million LEFT on his two year contract.

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

IMHO, choice between Steeger and Ladd is an easy one. I'd keep Steeger for sure. Actually i think Steeger's game has improved a lot and will continue to do so with the right coaches and team. I think the organization is warming up to Steeger, but I think he is gone for cap reasons. And probably Sharp too, unless we unload the Soup contract. Although i do admit, the cap puzzles the shit out of me. and i could be dead wrong, and hopefully i am.



And Steeger, man that dude really grew on me big time with that performance at the rally. Hockey players are awesome and have tremendous character overall, but seriously not too many got much personality. Steeger, Kaner, Roenick, love those guys. Buff had personality too, which makes his departure a little tougher to swallow.



-5Minutes

 

[Guest]

Sharp is not going anywhere and most likely neither is Campbell.



After Steeg and lowering contracts like Madden coming back they should be good.



Assuming Huet has no hit back.

 

[mikita's helmet]

I understand Buff had to be traded for cap reasons - Versteeg will be next - but Buff, along with Toews, was my favorite Hawk. It's been an emotional day for me - losing a great character person like Sopes hurts too - so I've sorta been in denial about this.



Regardless, my loyalty remains with the team, not any player. It's reminiscent of when Bobby Hull left the Hawks and went to the WHA. It upset me greatly, but I'm a Hawks fan first.

 

[thanson1990]

Obviously, its never any fun to lose talented players, especially when every guy on the club is so likeable. However, I think Stan did a great job with this deal. I was never too fond of Aliu, and I loved all three of the NHL'ers, but the fact that the defending Stanley Cup champion has 5 of the first 60 picks in the draft stands out to me. I know that obviously some of them may have to be moved to get some contracts out of here, but the fact that they have the opportunity to draw from their system and get some quality talent up to the NHL and not miss a beat and restock with more young talent is a pretty great sign for the future of the Blackhawks.



EDIT- Not to mention what seems to be a quality prospect in Morin!

 

[bri]

The Campbell and Hossa contracts are going to kill us forever and they are definitely not worth the money at least not for those long periods.

 

[LordKOTL]

I disagree. I don't know of any defenseman out there who can cover for what Campbell does that we have a shot at getting, and Hossa is certainly not a liability at his price. I seriously doubt either of those contracts will be killing us unless those two become a liability if they aren't putting up offense.



One could argue either are overpaid, but Campbell proved his worth while injured, and you could not get a player of Hossa's caliber for much less. The only "killer" contract we have right now is Huet. Be it KHL/Europe, AHL, or Retirement (as outlandish as that dream is), that one we need to get rid of because no only is he overpaid, but we are better without him.



As for this trade, I like it. We get center depth, and gain about 4M in cap. Sad to see those guys go, but we knew some favorites were going to go.



Oh, and yes, I think Bickell should fill in adequately for Buff. maybe not 100% the same, but i know some were marginalizing him over in the O-boards, yet they forget last November it was Bickell who got it done against the Canucks.

 

[bookjones]

[quote name="bri"]The Campbell and Hossa contracts are going to kill us forever and they are definitely not worth the money at least not for those long periods.[/quote]



I love Hossa and his contract! Marian 'F'ing" Hossa for a mere $5.2 (or something like that) per when he could have gotten more somewhere else? And inked before he was 35? Nicely played by both parties as far as I am concerned especially seeing as he'll never complete it to term!



ETA: Also, I have never been one of the Campbell naysayers and think his contract is exactly what happens to many teams struggling to rebuild---they tend to have to pay for the UFAs to lure them to town and give an assurance to the hockeyverse that they are serious about competing. Plus his speed is KILLER and while slightly overpaid to be sure, the Hawks need his skillset for the type of game they have decided to play.

 

[bri]

[quote name="LordKOTL"]I disagree. I don't know of any defenseman out there who can cover for what Campbell does that we have a shot at getting, and Hossa is certainly not a liability at his price. I seriously doubt either of those contracts will be killing us unless those two become a liability if they aren't putting up offense.



One could argue either are overpaid, but Campbell proved his worth while injured, and you could not get a player of Hossa's caliber for much less. The only "killer" contract we have right now is Huet. Be it KHL/Europe, AHL, or Retirement (as outlandish as that dream is), that one we need to get rid of because no only is he overpaid, but we are better without him.



As for this trade, I like it. We get center depth, and gain about 4M in cap. Sad to see those guys go, but we knew some favorites were going to go.



Oh, and yes, I think Bickell should fill in adequately for Buff. maybe not 100% the same, but i know some were marginalizing him over in the O-boards, yet they forget last November it was Bickell who got it done against the Canucks.[/quote]





Well when The Biscuit's contract comes up next year they won't have the money for him and i consider him a much more important asset than Campbell or Hossa.

 

[bookjones]

[quote name="bri"]





Well when The Biscuit's contract comes up next year they won't have the money for him and i consider him a much more important asset than Campbell or Hossa.[/quote]



Well assuming the cap doesn't go down after next season The Biscuit's raise could come from a host of scenarios---perhaps one as simple as the various entry level and Playoffs bonus monies the Hawks have to count against the cap next season but won't be a factor (unless we have another Conn Smythe winner, heh!) the season after that. Just can't say yet. Don't fret Bri, it's all gonna be okay,

 

[LordKOTL]

[quote name="bri"]





Well when The Biscuit's contract comes up next year they won't have the money for him and i consider him a much more important asset than Campbell or Hossa.[/quote]

To be honest, i don't think either will be standing in the way of Seabs getting resigned. I think the Bowmans and McD know which side their bread is buttered on and know that Keith and Seabs go together, and unless Seabs is asking for something rediculous, I think they will find a way to get it done.



Plus, I look at that more as a, in Ted Kennedy's words, a "Cross that bridge when we drive under it" scenario. He is still signed through next year and if we ink him to a deal like Keith's, that's only an extra 2M in cap space from his current numbers.



Believe me, I think next year Seabs will be the guy in the "must resign" column.

 

[Pez68]

[quote name="bri"]





Well when The Biscuit's contract comes up next year they won't have the money for him and i consider him a much more important asset than Campbell or Hossa.[/quote]



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[roshinaya]

Why are you worrying about NEXT year, when the mess this year isn't even fixed? Seabs will get re-signed, no doubt about it. Campbell's contract is indeed awful, but Hossa's contract is a damn bargain at that price. Hawks have yet to even have a full season of his services and he'll be close to a PPG player who is a beast on both sides of the ice.

 

[mikita's helmet]

[quote name="roshinaya"]Why are you worrying about NEXT year, when the mess this year isn't even fixed? Seabs will get re-signed, no doubt about it. Campbell's contract is indeed awful, but Hossa's contract is a damn bargain at that price. Hawks have yet to even have a full season of his services and he'll be close to a PPG player who is a beast on both sides of the ice.[/quote]



I only see an upside with Hossa.