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The Hossa contract is probably one of THE BEST CONTRACTS IN THE ENTIRE NHL. Any complaints about it are.......absolutely ridiculous.
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[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]Apparently Bowman was demanding a first round pick in the Buff trade, but gm's weren't biting (sans Dudley). LeBrun mentioned in his blog that three gm's told him that they didn't think Hawks would get a number one pick for Buff. Dudley gave us a number one plus Morin. Nice.
Link: http://espn.go.com/nhl/blog/_/name/lebrun_pierre/id/5321272/trade-pays-hawks-thrashers
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This is awesome....
I like Stan so far he seems pretty level headed and doesn't fall in love with the idealized version of a player and is willing to take risks. Both really good qualities in a GM.
My only fear was size by giving up Buff and Eager but then I remembered Beach, Dowell, Bickell, and Brouwer in some combination can fill in for Buff and Eager. I also I think if Brouw didn't have all that personal stuff going on during the end of the season and the playoffs he would have played better.
I have to say I like that there are many options just another good sign that they knew this was going to happen and were preparing for it.
Link: http://espn.go.com/nhl/blog/_/name/lebrun_pierre/id/5321272/trade-pays-hawks-thrashers
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This is awesome....
I like Stan so far he seems pretty level headed and doesn't fall in love with the idealized version of a player and is willing to take risks. Both really good qualities in a GM.
My only fear was size by giving up Buff and Eager but then I remembered Beach, Dowell, Bickell, and Brouwer in some combination can fill in for Buff and Eager. I also I think if Brouw didn't have all that personal stuff going on during the end of the season and the playoffs he would have played better.
I have to say I like that there are many options just another good sign that they knew this was going to happen and were preparing for it.
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[quote name="bri"]The Campbell and Hossa contracts are going to kill us forever and they are definitely not worth the money at least not for those long periods.[/quote]
Chemon LEE!!!!
Hossa's contract is a joke how awesome it is. And Campbells play is so solid, when you consider the time he signed whats wrong with it? You can hate the contract all you want, just don't hate the player, any red-blooded human being on earth would sign a contract like that.
Both are huge players and great assets to have.
Chemon LEE!!!!
Hossa's contract is a joke how awesome it is. And Campbells play is so solid, when you consider the time he signed whats wrong with it? You can hate the contract all you want, just don't hate the player, any red-blooded human being on earth would sign a contract like that.
Both are huge players and great assets to have.
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People always look at BC's contract when judging him. Without considering his contract he is a premier puck moving defender and he has improved his defensive game as well, so the old cliché that he is useless in his own zone is old hat. BC was a crucial part of the Hawks success this season, yet people still only stare at the contract and his numbers.
He would be top pair defenseman on any team with less depth than the Hawks and could still log 25-30 mins.
He would be top pair defenseman on any team with less depth than the Hawks and could still log 25-30 mins.
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It's official!
Hawks deal Byfuglien, Sopel to Thrashers
Thursday, 06.24.2010 / 1:20 AM / 2010 Offseason News
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It's official. Early Thursday morning, the Chicago Blackhawks traded playoff hero Dustin Byfuglien to Atlanta as part of a multi-player deal.
The Hawks will send Byfuglien, center Ben Eager, defenseman Brent Sopel and prospect Akim Aliu, a second-round pick in 2007, to the Thrashers for the first-round pick (No. 24) Atlanta acquired from New Jersey in the Ilya Kovalchuk trade, a second-round pick (No. 54) that also came from New Jersey, prospect Jeremy Morin, veteran forward Marty Reasoner and winger Joseph Crabb, who played his first 29 NHL games as part of the Atlanta franchise this past season.
The Hawks and Thrashers have a connection -- Rick Dudley, the Thrashers' new general manager, worked for the Blackhawks for five years before joining Atlanta last summer and being promoted to GM this spring.
Byfuglien, a 25-year-old forward, had 17 goals and 17 assists in 82 games with the Hawks during the regular season, then added 11 goals – including five game-winners, during Chicago’s run to the Stanley Cup. Sopel, 33, had 1 goal and 7 assists in 73 regular-season games and was 1-5-6 in 22 playoff games. Eager had 7 goals and 9 assists with 120 PIM in 60 regular-season games. He played 18 playoff games with 1 goal, 2 assists and 20 PIM.
"It is what it is," Byfuglien said on "The Afternoon Saloon" on ESPN 1000 in Chicago. "It's part of the job. You're not going to stick in one spot the whole time, so I've got to go."
"What we saw in the playoffs is the Dustin Byfuglien I imagined and who could become one of the league's elite power forwards," said Dudley in a 1 a.m. ET press conference call Thursday morning. "He has soft hands and he is as big a player as there is in the NHL. That combination is attractive."
Dudley called Eager "one of the NHL's better forecheckers" and said he adds toughness as both a player not afraid to fight when needed and "hits with a purpose."
Dudley said the deal was in the works for a while, especially after Chicago's Jonathan Toews earned a significant bonus for winning the Conn Smythe MVP earlier this month.
"I think I talked to Stan (Bowman, Chicago GM) more than when we worked together," said Dudley. "I am talking like maybe 50 calls in the last few days."
With the Hawks facing salary cap issues for 2010-11, defenseman Duncan Keith said losing some members of the team that won Chicago's first Stanley Cup since 1961 was inevitable.
"I've kind of heard about it. To be honest with you, it kind of saddens me," he said after winning the Norris Trophy as the NHL's top defenseman at the NHL Awards Show in Las Vegas. "It really does sadden me. Those are my good buddies leaving our team. Benny and Buff, I was with Buff since he was drafted.
"You know things are going to change when you win the Cup the way our Cap situation was, and things have to be made. It's too bad it had to be like this, but at the same time we've got to start looking forward. When these things do happen, I'm sure there might be some more, and it's not going to be fun. We're just going to have to keep moving forward, and a lot of times that's part of the business. It's hockey. Teams change every year and you lose friends, you lose teammates. You stay in touch, but it's not really the same as playing with them."
Reasoner, a 33-year-old who's played 11 NHL seasons, had 4 goals and 13 assists in 80 regular-season games. Crabb had 4 goals and 5 assists in his 29 games. Morin was taken in the second round (No. 45) by the Thrashers last year. He had 47 goals and 36 assists for Kitchener of the Ontario Hockey League in 2009-10, and also scored 2 goals and 5 assists for Team USA’s gold medal-winning squad at the World Junior Championship.
"You can't beat going to a team that just won the Stanley Cup," Reasoner told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's website.
"It's always a little shocking to be traded, but we've all gone through it before," he said of being traded. "I would have liked to stay in Atlanta for another year and help that team build, but it's a new chapter. It will be exciting. You can tell from watching the playoffs that the Blackhawks have taken over the city."
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=532495
Hawks deal Byfuglien, Sopel to Thrashers
Thursday, 06.24.2010 / 1:20 AM / 2010 Offseason News
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It's official. Early Thursday morning, the Chicago Blackhawks traded playoff hero Dustin Byfuglien to Atlanta as part of a multi-player deal.
The Hawks will send Byfuglien, center Ben Eager, defenseman Brent Sopel and prospect Akim Aliu, a second-round pick in 2007, to the Thrashers for the first-round pick (No. 24) Atlanta acquired from New Jersey in the Ilya Kovalchuk trade, a second-round pick (No. 54) that also came from New Jersey, prospect Jeremy Morin, veteran forward Marty Reasoner and winger Joseph Crabb, who played his first 29 NHL games as part of the Atlanta franchise this past season.
The Hawks and Thrashers have a connection -- Rick Dudley, the Thrashers' new general manager, worked for the Blackhawks for five years before joining Atlanta last summer and being promoted to GM this spring.
Byfuglien, a 25-year-old forward, had 17 goals and 17 assists in 82 games with the Hawks during the regular season, then added 11 goals – including five game-winners, during Chicago’s run to the Stanley Cup. Sopel, 33, had 1 goal and 7 assists in 73 regular-season games and was 1-5-6 in 22 playoff games. Eager had 7 goals and 9 assists with 120 PIM in 60 regular-season games. He played 18 playoff games with 1 goal, 2 assists and 20 PIM.
"It is what it is," Byfuglien said on "The Afternoon Saloon" on ESPN 1000 in Chicago. "It's part of the job. You're not going to stick in one spot the whole time, so I've got to go."
"What we saw in the playoffs is the Dustin Byfuglien I imagined and who could become one of the league's elite power forwards," said Dudley in a 1 a.m. ET press conference call Thursday morning. "He has soft hands and he is as big a player as there is in the NHL. That combination is attractive."
Dudley called Eager "one of the NHL's better forecheckers" and said he adds toughness as both a player not afraid to fight when needed and "hits with a purpose."
Dudley said the deal was in the works for a while, especially after Chicago's Jonathan Toews earned a significant bonus for winning the Conn Smythe MVP earlier this month.
"I think I talked to Stan (Bowman, Chicago GM) more than when we worked together," said Dudley. "I am talking like maybe 50 calls in the last few days."
With the Hawks facing salary cap issues for 2010-11, defenseman Duncan Keith said losing some members of the team that won Chicago's first Stanley Cup since 1961 was inevitable.
"I've kind of heard about it. To be honest with you, it kind of saddens me," he said after winning the Norris Trophy as the NHL's top defenseman at the NHL Awards Show in Las Vegas. "It really does sadden me. Those are my good buddies leaving our team. Benny and Buff, I was with Buff since he was drafted.
"You know things are going to change when you win the Cup the way our Cap situation was, and things have to be made. It's too bad it had to be like this, but at the same time we've got to start looking forward. When these things do happen, I'm sure there might be some more, and it's not going to be fun. We're just going to have to keep moving forward, and a lot of times that's part of the business. It's hockey. Teams change every year and you lose friends, you lose teammates. You stay in touch, but it's not really the same as playing with them."
Reasoner, a 33-year-old who's played 11 NHL seasons, had 4 goals and 13 assists in 80 regular-season games. Crabb had 4 goals and 5 assists in his 29 games. Morin was taken in the second round (No. 45) by the Thrashers last year. He had 47 goals and 36 assists for Kitchener of the Ontario Hockey League in 2009-10, and also scored 2 goals and 5 assists for Team USA’s gold medal-winning squad at the World Junior Championship.
"You can't beat going to a team that just won the Stanley Cup," Reasoner told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's website.
"It's always a little shocking to be traded, but we've all gone through it before," he said of being traded. "I would have liked to stay in Atlanta for another year and help that team build, but it's a new chapter. It will be exciting. You can tell from watching the playoffs that the Blackhawks have taken over the city."
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=532495
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[quote name="PatrickSharpRules"]...If it were between Ladd and Steeg I'd take Steeg.[/quote]
Absolutely NO FRICKIN' WAY.
Absolutely NO FRICKIN' WAY.
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Sad to see Buf go, but as (almoust) all people in here have stated we did get plenty in return. Now I just hope we can find some way to keep both Steeg and Sharpie. I keep these guys before Ladd.
If/When we get rid of Huet's contract that shouldnt be impossible?
If/When we get rid of Huet's contract that shouldnt be impossible?
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[quote name="PYsebaert"]Sad to see Buf go, but as (almoust) all people in here have stated we did get plenty in return. Now I just hope we can find some way to keep both Steeg and Sharpie. I keep these guys before Ladd.
If/When we get rid of Huet's contract that shouldnt be impossible?[/quote]
No. Versteeg will go.
If/When we get rid of Huet's contract that shouldnt be impossible?[/quote]
No. Versteeg will go.
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Ladd > Steeg.
I like Buff, and I will be paying attention to him in ATL.
Soaps, well, he's the man, and I am glad he got to impart his knowledge to our players, and they better sign Hammer now. He is gonna be our Sopel Jr.
I like Buff, and I will be paying attention to him in ATL.
Soaps, well, he's the man, and I am glad he got to impart his knowledge to our players, and they better sign Hammer now. He is gonna be our Sopel Jr.
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[quote name="jakobeast"]Ladd > Steeg.
I like Buff, and I will be paying attention to him in ATL.
Soaps, well, he's the man, and I am glad he got to impart his knowledge to our players, and they better sign Hammer now. He is gonna be our Sopel Jr.[/quote]
Agree.
I like Buff, and I will be paying attention to him in ATL.
Soaps, well, he's the man, and I am glad he got to impart his knowledge to our players, and they better sign Hammer now. He is gonna be our Sopel Jr.[/quote]
Agree.
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[quote name="Pez68"]The Hossa contract is probably one of THE BEST CONTRACTS IN THE ENTIRE NHL. Any complaints about it are.......absolutely ridiculous.[/quote]
Truer words have never been spoken.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
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While I like Steeger, even with his brainfarts, I still think he's the one that should go before Ladd. Ladd is a big body and could somewhat replace the loss of Buff and he seems to have an OK game around the net. Steeger is also most likely to get a higher return since he is still under contract and has a higher upside than Ladd.
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[quote name="Larmer83"]Somewhere, perhaps a *** bath house, Roberta Luongo has a smile on his face.[/quote]
so yeah can we borrow buff for the vancouver series? Or have one of our guys dress up like buff and harass Bob.
Honestly I don;t like the trade right now. I liked buff a lot. I dont know much about Morin so if he is better than okay cool, and hopefully we get some good guys out of the draft to keep the farm stocked.
so yeah can we borrow buff for the vancouver series? Or have one of our guys dress up like buff and harass Bob.
Honestly I don;t like the trade right now. I liked buff a lot. I dont know much about Morin so if he is better than okay cool, and hopefully we get some good guys out of the draft to keep the farm stocked.
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Sassone states in his blog that people in the organization were upset with Eager for not challenging Wiz when he tried to kill Seabs. Eager was on the ice.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4257
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http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4257
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[quote name="5Minutes4Fighting"]Sassone states in his blog that people in the organization were upset with Eager for not challenging Wiz when he tried to kill Seabs. Eager was on the ice.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4257
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Eager is one head shot away from ending his career. Exactly why he wasn't in more than one fight all year.
Bri can you please explain to me why Hossa, who's cap hit is lower than Toews and Kane by a million dollars, is a bad contract please?
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4257
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Eager is one head shot away from ending his career. Exactly why he wasn't in more than one fight all year.
Bri can you please explain to me why Hossa, who's cap hit is lower than Toews and Kane by a million dollars, is a bad contract please?
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I read this morning that Bowman was quoted something like "we don't have to do anything else now" in terms of the cap.
How is that possible? If the bonus thing is correct and we can only spend up to $55 million, then we have $53 under contract now with just 13 guys signed. Even if we ditch Huet to Rockford, we still have only $7.5 million to sign 10 guys, two of which are RFA's and prime offer sheet guys. What is he talking about?
Here is the quote:
And the link to the story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=5320715
How is that possible? If the bonus thing is correct and we can only spend up to $55 million, then we have $53 under contract now with just 13 guys signed. Even if we ditch Huet to Rockford, we still have only $7.5 million to sign 10 guys, two of which are RFA's and prime offer sheet guys. What is he talking about?
Here is the quote:
And the link to the story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=5320715
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[quote name="R K"]
Eager is one head shot away from ending his career. Exactly why he wasn't in more than one fight all year.
Bri can you please explain to me why Hossa, who's cap hit is lower than Toews and Kane by a million dollars, is a bad contract please?[/quote]
RK, it is actually more on a personal level with Bri IRT Hossa then it is a contract issue. Bri, that is not a poke at you, you are entitled to feel anyway you want about someone, it's just for the money, Hossa's contract is fricking awesome, and lets face it, there is a reason that everyone and their brother wanted him on their roster.
Eager is one head shot away from ending his career. Exactly why he wasn't in more than one fight all year.
Bri can you please explain to me why Hossa, who's cap hit is lower than Toews and Kane by a million dollars, is a bad contract please?[/quote]
RK, it is actually more on a personal level with Bri IRT Hossa then it is a contract issue. Bri, that is not a poke at you, you are entitled to feel anyway you want about someone, it's just for the money, Hossa's contract is fricking awesome, and lets face it, there is a reason that everyone and their brother wanted him on their roster.
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[quote name="whalerhawk"]I read this morning that Bowman was quoted something like "we don't have to do anything else now" in terms of the cap.
How is that possible? If the bonus thing is correct and we can only spend up to $55 million, then we have $53 under contract now with just 13 guys signed. Even if we ditch Huet to Rockford, we still have only $7.5 million to sign 10 guys, two of which are RFA's and prime offer sheet guys. What is he talking about?
Here is the quote:
And the link to the story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=5320715[/quote]
Jesse Rogers is a Tool!!!!!
How is that possible? If the bonus thing is correct and we can only spend up to $55 million, then we have $53 under contract now with just 13 guys signed. Even if we ditch Huet to Rockford, we still have only $7.5 million to sign 10 guys, two of which are RFA's and prime offer sheet guys. What is he talking about?
Here is the quote:
And the link to the story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=5320715[/quote]
Jesse Rogers is a Tool!!!!!
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[quote name="tvltre"]
Jesse Rogers is a Tool!!!!![/quote]
Not arguing that, but the quote is from Bowman, not Rogers.
Jesse Rogers is a Tool!!!!![/quote]
Not arguing that, but the quote is from Bowman, not Rogers.
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[quote name="whalerhawk"]
Not arguing that, but the quote is from Bowman, not Rogers.[/quote]
I was talking about the interview and his ungodly sense that the Hawks are worse then last year.
As for the Bowman quote. I know he isn't done. Way to much needs to be done to make room for the remaining players.
Not arguing that, but the quote is from Bowman, not Rogers.[/quote]
I was talking about the interview and his ungodly sense that the Hawks are worse then last year.
As for the Bowman quote. I know he isn't done. Way to much needs to be done to make room for the remaining players.