CBS Mock - Free Agency Update

[playthrough2001]

linebacker maybe too in the 2nd.

Edmunds may be cut next year and the SAM would still play 25% of snaps this year.

No thank you!

 

[dabears70]

OT/DE/DT

Please pick one of the these three. Do it again twice in round 2.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Now if it was DT would it be 3T or 1T to play behind Billings for a year or are you still open to drafting another 3T at #10?

 

[dabears70]

linebacker maybe too in the 2nd.

Edmunds may be cut next year and the SAM would still play 25% of snaps this year.

I wouldn't hate it but off ball LBer is one of those positions like RB that i think it's easier to find players later in the draft or in free agency.

 

[DefNextYear]

Could be but Loveland is the more natural route runner/soft hands player. That said, It's not much of a difference and Warren is better at the line.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1898411594024902700

I saw this and figured Loveland could just be someone else's risk in this deep TE class.

 

[playthrough2001]

Now if it was DT would it be 3T or 1T to play behind Billings for a year or are you still open to drafting another 3T at #10?

I want them to draft impactful, large men on both sides of the ball.

Nolen, Grant, Williams, and hell maybe even Stewart…

My preference is Kelvin Banks Jr. I want a LT ready to go if Braxton isn’t ready or isn’t deemed worthy of a second contract.

 

[--CyBear--]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1898411594024902700

I saw this and figured Loveland could just be someone else's risk in this deep TE class.

I've seen that. I take it with a grin and his injury. I wasn't actually advocating for either. Just that if BJ wants one, Loveland is the better fit.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1898411594024902700

I saw this and figured Loveland could just be someone else's risk in this deep TE class.

Kind of hard to tell if this is a Loveland thing or poor qb/run first offense thing

 

[dabears70]

I want them to draft impactful, large men on both sides of the ball.

Nolen, Grant, Williams, and hell maybe even Stewart…

My preference is Kelvin Banks Jr. I want a LT ready to go if Braxton isn’t ready or isn’t deemed worthy of a second contract.

So you'd give some serious thought to drafting S.Stewart at #10? I mean it could be a jackpot draft pick if you hit with him but those sack stats are scary. If they draft him then i'd Stewart's #1 fan.

I like the Banks at #10 thing as well. He's got the gametape and all the right measureables.

 

[playthrough2001]

So you'd give some serious thought to drafting S.Stewart at #10? I mean it could be a jackpot draft pick if you hit with him but those sack stats are scary. If they draft him then i'd Stewart's #1 fan.

I like the Banks at #10 thing as well. He's got the gametape and all the right measureables.

I’d rather they take DE Williams over Stewart.

 

[modo]

linebacker maybe too in the 2nd.

Edmunds may be cut next year and the SAM would still play 25% of snaps this year.

Linebacker is a need now.

Would love to see Jihaad Campbell in the 2nd.

 

[HearshotKDS]

DL's bust more than TE's. Same goes for CB's and WR's...

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Kmet has a career high of 107 yds receiving in a game and yet people are acting like he is this elite player that can't have his snaps affected by bringing in another playmaking TE. It's funny that the Patriots could make it work with Gronk and Hernandez... Perhaps people need to realize that Ben Johnson runs the same base offense that the Patriots ran... Erhardt-Perkins.

What is hit rate defined as in this chart? If its the common "just getting a 2nd contract with the team who drafted them" its not counting players like Smith who didnt sign a contract with the team who drafted him but was a big enough hit to warrant a large trade return and massive contract to follow . Regardless, the numbers on Safeties in the first is kind of eye-popping - dont draft them high.

 

[DefNextYear]

Kind of hard to tell if this is a Loveland thing or poor qb/run first offense thing

It is, but that's a long list of things to still prove. I'm just risk adverse with high picks. I'd need a wild payoff to offset.

 

[modo]

For the people wishing for a TE.....the number 2 TE in the Lions offense had 16 targets last year....

There would be zero impact from drafting a TE at 10.

 

[hester247]

I got a feeling a few days ago too that we could draft Warren. If you're looking BPA then he might be the best pick but it sure would be a luxury pick.

I'm thinking Mykel Williams will be the pick at #10, or at least my preferred pick.

If Jeanty is gone please trade down to late teens early 20s and pick up an extra 2nd rd pick. I would much rather have a player like Mike Green

So you'd give some serious thought to drafting S.Stewart at #10? I mean it could be a jackpot draft pick if you hit with him but those sack stats are scary. If they draft him then i'd Stewart's #1 fan.

I like the Banks at #10 thing as well. He's got the gametape and all the right measureables.

we just signed 1 DE (Dayo) with Tarzan like body attributes and low production we don't need the 2.0 version of him. Give me a guy like Mike Green who actually produces real tangible football metrics (sacks)

 

[hester247]

For the people wishing for a TE.....the number 2 TE in the Lions offense had 16 targets last year....

There would be zero impact from drafting a TE at 10.

It would be the dumbest thing to take this guy at #10 when we could likely trade a mid to late rd pick for Michael Mayer TE from Raiders who is on trade block because they already have another TE (Bowers)

 

[HearshotKDS]

I’d rather they take DE Williams over Stewart.

Stewart is an interesting player to me, his athleticism jumps off the screen on almost every play, but at the same time his technique is so unrefined. He's only 21 so theres definitely room for improvement but then again he also has 3 full season of college ball and looks like he has barely been coached.

Cant believe Williams is only 20 years old, feels like the last few years we've seen edges come out that were old enough to have masters degrees.

 

[Xplosive]

What is hit rate defined as in this chart? If its the common "just getting a 2nd contract with the team who drafted them" its not counting players like Smith who didnt sign a contract with the team who drafted him but was a big enough hit to warrant a large trade return and massive contract to follow . Regardless, the numbers on Safeties in the first is kind of eye-popping - dont draft them high

Smith is a rare exception that isn't a bust but moved on. Pretty much the same as Edmunds. Personally I prefer a team need plus positional value approach to drafting.

The GM should be balanced in his decision making as opposed to a boxed in mentality.

2022 Ravens took a safety in the first round.
2020 they took a linebacker
2018 they took a TE

Guess the Ravens aren’t as smart as CCS.

If they had drafted only OL/DL they would be a good team... Amirite @msadows ??

 

[HearshotKDS]

Smith is a rare exception that isn't a bust but moved on. Pretty much the same as Edmunds. Personally I prefer a team need plus positional value approach to drafting.

The GM should be balanced in his decision making as opposed to a boxed in mentality.

2022 Ravens took a safety in the first round.
2020 they took a linebacker
2018 they took a TE

Guess the Ravens aren’t as smart as CCS.

Hamiltons a stud but if the Ravens knew what they were getting with the other 2 they probably dont draft them. Your chart kinda holds up here, they took 3 low % chances on those positions and ended up hitting on only 1.

 

[bears51/40]

Williams has never had more than 5 sacks in a season. There may have been injury issues, but betting on potential is a mistake in the first round. Save potential picks for later rounds.

Well, I think you have to look at just how Georgia uses their pass rushers. They always seem to have a very deep rotation every year. Take Nolan Smith for example, he never had more than 3.5 sacks in any year but was a key pass rusher for the Eagles this past season.

Also, sacks aren't everything, you also have to factor in pressures and QB hits. Williams is only 20, with the highest ceiling among the power edges that fit this defense. Outstanding against the run but yes like most rookie DEs has some work to do as a pass rusher.

 

[Xplosive]

Hamiltons a stud but if the Ravens knew what they were getting with the other 2 they probably dont draft them. Your chart kinda holds up here, they took 3 low % chances on those positions and ended up hitting on only 1.

Patrick Queen was a good player for the Ravens as well. Hayden Hurst not so much. The point is the draft is a crap shoot and yes position value matters. However you can't have a one dimensional outlook on drafting only one way.

If a player is a fit for your team and you have a vision of how to maximize his talents in your scheme, there is nothing wrong with taking that player.

That's how Gibbs ended up on the Lions despite not being a "premium" position player.