CBS Mock - Free Agency Update

[--CyBear--]

Ben Johnson already said he's going to build the offense based on the strong suits of his players. The only guarantee is that we will run the ball a lot, but I'm not sure we need guys who fit the mold of the lions skill players.

Feels nice to (hopefully) have an offensive mind who understands you don't fit a square peg into a round hole and instead evolve your scheme to what the players strengths are. The years we had these geniuses like martz who would say they cant work with a certain player type are hopefully long over.

So much push back over a possibility. It's been stated many times that it would be a similar option to WR 3. No one here said we SHOULD draft a TE in one. We can just see the justifications if that happens. My point was that Loveleand is a better fit for the diversity that BJ tends to prefer. He used a TE as his WR 3 a lot in Detroit and also used 3 TE's in blocking schemes. Doesn't mean we need to take one in the 1st round but don't be surprised if we draft one.

Laporta had 726 yards last year. He's not a primary blocking type of TE. He did a lot of 3rd WR stuff. Again, It doesn't mean that's what BJ will do here but if he takes a guy early I doubt it will be Warren.

 

[modo]

Depends on the players available at 10. Is Warren equivalent to Travis Kelce? If so, he would be under serious consideration. Other than Mahomes, Kelce has probably been the most valuable player on the Chiefs.

Will there be Edges or WRs at 10 who would be equally or even more valuable to the Bears? What is the quality of players at 39 and 41 likely to be at those positions?
This is the process that should be followed.

If he’s the next Travis Kelce, he’d go before 10.

There is no guarantee he is.

For this upcoming year, he would have little impact on the season. Most TEs historically do not impact season one.

Kmet is also a very capable, underutilized player ahead of him.

With needs still on the team it would be a hell of a luxury pick.

 

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He's taller with a huge catch radius. It's a good thing if this O is similar to the last year's Lions. He's 6.6/250 with 32.75" arms. Warren plays a little stiff by comparison is .5" shorter with 31.25" arms and 5 more pounds. He's more like Kmet that we already have. Either could go before the other depending on what a team wants.

248 pounds for Loveland vs 256 for Warren at the combine. Loveland's arms were 32 and 1/8 per CBS Combine measurements vs 31 and 3/4" for Warren.

So I think your information is off. You can't always easily tell with pads on but Loveland looks thinner and smaller despite his half inch longer arms and half inch of height.

 

[--CyBear--]

248 pounds for Loveland vs 256 for Warren at the combine. Loveland's arms were 32 and 1/8 per CBS Combine measurements vs 31 and 3/4" for Warren.

So I think your information is off. You can't always easily tell with pads on but Loveland looks thinner and smaller despite his half inch longer arms and half inch of height.

Could be but Loveland is the more natural route runner/soft hands player. That said, It's not much of a difference and Warren is better at the line.

 

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Are you blackrainbows ALT? Cause he spent all last offseason telling us odunze is a tight end.

If so we dont need another tight end. May as well make a case to draft Tet from Arizona

I'm pretty sure I was here before blackrainbow unless he had a different name. Before you too I think unless you are botfly 2.0 which you very well may be

*I stand corrected you have me beat.... although you may have changed your name... TeddyKGB is that you???

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I'm pretty sure I was here before blackrainbow unless he had a different name. Before you too I think unless you are botfly 2.0 which you very well may be

He used to be halftime. He changes his name allot. I think he hit a homerun with @ILoveDick cause it perfectly describes him

 

[msadows]

I'm pretty sure I was here before blackrainbow unless he had a different name. Before you too I think unless you are botfly 2.0 which you very well may be

*I stand corrected you have me beat.... although you may have changed your name... TeddyKGB is that you???

Wouldnt be the first time a guy had a conversation with himself on this forum!

 

[bamainatlanta]

So much push back over a possibility. It's been stated many times it would bea similar option to WR 3. No one here said we SHOULD draft a TE in one. We can just see the justifications if that happens. My point was that Loveleand is a better fit for the diversity that BJ tends to prefer. He used a TE as his WR 3 a lot in Detroit and also used 3 TE's in blocking schemes. Doesn't mean we need to take one in the 1st round but don't be surprised if we draft one.

Laporta had 726 yards last year. He's not a primary blocking type of TE. He did a lot of 3rd WR stuff. Again, It doesn't mean that's what BJ will do here but if he takes a guy early I doubt it will be Warren.

If they went with a TE early, it has to be someone that is the complete opposite of Kmet. Someone mentioned the Pats with Gronk & Hernandez—those 2 were completely different kinds of TE’s. Warren at best is a better version of Kmet—they need someone who is a threat in the passing game. Warren isn’t that guy; his separation skills are not elite. The windows he got in college just won’t be there in the NFL

 

[Yogi]

Warren is a fine player (though nowhere near Bowers), but premium DLine talent is too important to the game, and too rare and expensive to find via trade/FA to not be using our top draft capital on it.

 

[dabears70]

Kmet should be getting like 800 yards and 10 TDs a year. He really should be an effective chain mover and easy outlet for CW.

But our OCs have completely ignored him from the gameplan week in and week out

Those stats would be really great for a guy playing TE that has two really good options at WR in DJ and Rome ahead of him. I'd be very happy with those stats or close to them for Kmet. I'd probably put him more around 700 yds and 7-8 TD's though and those would still be great stats.

 

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Wouldnt be the first time a guy had a conversation with himself on this forum!

Yawn.

 

[dabears70]

My issue with this is that guy is a lot like Kmet, probably with a little better route running but short arms. If I want that extra TE (3rd WR) type I trade down and take Loveland. If Loveland is there in 2, it's not unlikely that BJ wants him. He's said this is a different O then Detroit but he used a lot of 2 TE sets instead of extra WR on 3rd down in Detroit and Loveland is the better route guy with a much greater catch radius.

Loveland won't make it out of round 1 IMO. If he did then yes we should jump on it.

 

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Could be but Loveland is the more natural route runner/soft hands player. That said, It's not much of a difference and Warren is better at the line.

I agree Loveland is the better receiver. He may be there at 39 because of his shoulder

Loveland underwent the operation on Jan. 29 to repair and reconstruct the AC joint in his right shoulder

I think Warren has more versatility and that is what separates him from the pack. If all the Bears want is a pass catcher they can definitely wait until later in the draft.

 

[msadows]

Those stats would be really great for a guy playing TE that has two really good options at WR in DJ and Rome ahead of him. I'd be very happy with those stats or close to them for Kmet. I'd probably put him more around 700 yds and 7-8 TD's though and those would still be great stats.

Those stats(800 10TD's) would make him a top 3 TE.

He would have been 6th in yardage last year and 2nd in TD's.

Even what you put would have had him 2nd or 4th in TD's, and 7th/8th in yardage.

And both are very realistic(maybe not 10 TDs), which is why drafting a TE is the dumbest shit i've heard on this board so far this offseason

 

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Loveland won't make it out of round 1 IMO. If he did then yes we should jump on it.

#AnthonyMiller shoulder

 

[bamainatlanta]

Warren is a fine player (though nowhere near Bowers), but premium DLine talent is too important to the game, and too rare and expensive to find via trade/FA to not be using our top draft capital on it.

It has to be LT (even with the recent additions) or DL--I could see a RB but it would have to be very late in the 1st with a trade down. But TE is far from one of the issues with this team and Warren or Colston would not raise the ceiling of this team.

 

[playthrough2001]

OT/DE/DT

Please pick one of the these three. Do it again twice in round 2.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

 

[msadows]

OT/DE/DT

Please pick one of the these three. Do it again twice in round 2.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

linebacker maybe too in the 2nd.

Edmunds may be cut next year and the SAM would still play 25% of snaps this year.

 

[msadows]

It has to be LT (even with the recent additions) or DL--I could see a RB but it would have to be very late in the 1st with a trade down. But TE is far from one of the issues with this team and Warren or Colston would not raise the ceiling of this team.

its gonna be jeanty and ur gonna like it

 

[dabears70]

It has to be LT (even with the recent additions) or DL--I could see a RB but it would have to be very late in the 1st with a trade down. But TE is far from one of the issues with this team and Warren or Colston would not raise the ceiling of this team.

Definitely my top two options are someone who can play LT (Campbell, Banks, Membou) and DE but Poles has opened this draft up for him to go many ways that'll make me happy even if it's another weapon at TE, WR or RB.