Chicago Cubs 2023-24 OFFSEASON thread

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I'm curious to hear some other people's take on this but I'm of the opinion that Happ while a good player limits the cubs. What I mean by this is that he's obviously in the mold of a good defensive LF who hits above average instead of your stereotypical big LF bat who may be some what deficient defensively. If i could have what he gives you at 3B i'd have less issue with him but with the cubs depth in the minors in the OF and the fact he's just a decent hitter not a player who carries you I find him to be a misfitting piece when the team needs offense. And to my knowledge I believe he has a no-trade clause so i'm not even sure there's anything to be done with it.

Having said that, with the Belli talk i would feel more comfortable going after him if you didn't have Happ in left. Maybe with happ under contract for 3 more years that is some consideration since 1B is open and PCA may need a bit more cooking. Maybe you can live with Happ the next two years and then in the third year of that deal there's some consideration for moving him and having Belli in left(or right). I suppose the same argument also sorta of applies for Suzuki but i feel like suzuki has higher upside in his bat and is playing a more difficult defensive position.

Idk maybe i'm undervaluing happ here but he just doesn't fit my typical mold for his position.
I agree completely. I think happ is a slightly above average player and I hated extending him because he doesn't really do anything exceptionally well. He's not really a building block so it didn't make sense to have him as a player you are building around.
 

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With today's salaries....unless you play your games in Dodger Stadium, you're not gonna be able to field an All-Star lineup. Happ is fine...not great but solid and his reasonable extension allows for growth elsewhere. It's anybody's guess when that growth is coming.....3 new bullpen arms, Belli, another power bat and a starter. The Dumpster Diver has accomplished exactly zero of that.
 

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Ian Happ is a player who has numbers that exactly fit his contract. He's also a high OBP guy so great for the top of the order in a great lineup.
 

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I would keep him. Caissie should become a plus RF option in 2 years which lines up with Suzuki's contract.
Bellinger makes sense as a CF/1B as Mervis and PCA are not proven products.

As far as Happ is concerned if Caissie goes to RF, PCA to CF and Alcantara fills out and takes over LF. At that point DH or trade.
 

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The only way that Jed pulls this off-season out of the sewer is to sign Chapman then trade for Bieber and Naylor. After target Hendricks for a mid season pen boost at a discount.
 

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Can anyone tell me where this Bregman talk started? Like I can see a fit for the cubs but it confuses me why houston would be after this.
 

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Can anyone tell me where this Bregman talk started? Like I can see a fit for the cubs but it confuses me why houston would be after this.

From what I've heard, it's allegedly because Houston is looking to cut payroll.
 

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Can anyone tell me where this Bregman talk started? Like I can see a fit for the cubs but it confuses me why houston would be after this.
It’s been a rumor for a while now, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up
 

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Looking like cubs signed Shota Imanaga. Just looking at numbers he seems interesting but i worry about his hr/9. Typically that's a lot lower in japan for elite types and he was closer to more MLB numbers.
 

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I've never seen him throw one pitch.....no idea what to expect.
 

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Cubs, Shota Imanaga Agree To Deal

By Anthony Franco | January 9, 2024 at 7:08pm CDT

7:08pm: The deal will pay around $15MM annually over multiple seasons, reports Jon Morosi of MLB.com (on X).
7:05pm: The Cubs are in agreement with NPB left-hander Shota Imanaga on a deal, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today (X link). The contract is pending a physical, which is scheduled for tomorrow. Imanaga’s deal must be finalized before his 45-day posting window closes at 5:00 pm EST on Thursday.
It’s the first MLB free agent pickup of the offseason for the Cubs. It’s a big acquisition, as the southpaw is one of the more intriguing pitchers in this year’s class. Financial terms haven’t been reported, but it’s fair to presume it’s a notable multi-year pact. At the beginning of the offseason, MLBTR predicted a five-year, $85MM contract. Recent reporting has suggested he could top $100MM.
Imanaga has spent the past eight seasons with the Yokohama BayStars in his home country. He owns a career 3.18 ERA in a league generally regarded as the second-best level in the world. Imanaga has turned in a 3.08 or better in each of the past three seasons, including a sub-3.00 figure for the last two years.
During the 2023 campaign, he allowed 2.80 earned runs per nine through 148 innings. He led all NPB hurlers with 174 strikeouts, narrowly topping Dodgers’ $325MM signee Yoshinobu Yamamoto in that regard. That’s an impressive 29.2% clip that’s well above the 22.1% MLB average. He paired that with a tidy 4% walk rate, ranking him among NPB’s best pitchers at dominating the strike zone.
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Despite the strong strikeout and walk profile, Imanaga doesn’t come with the kind of excitement generated by Yamamoto. That’s in part due to age. Having turned 30 last September, Imanaga is a typical age for a first-time free agent starter. More importantly, his repertoire points more toward a projection as a solid mid-rotation arm than a potential ace.
Evaluators with whom MLBTR spoke before the offseason suggested Imanaga profiles as a #3/4 pitcher in a big league rotation. Baseball America’s Kyle Glaser pegged him as a #4/5 type in a scouting report from early December. The 5’10” hurler typically sits in the low-90s with his fastball, touching the 94-95 MPH range in shorter stints.
Evaluators have credited him with above-average life on the pitch, allowing it to play for whiffs at the top of the strike zone despite the pedestrian velocity. Glaser writes that Imanaga backs that up with an above-average split but suggests his MLB upside may be capped by middling breaking stuff.
The main concern in Imanaga’s statistical profile has been the longball. He surrendered 17 homers last season, the second-most of any NPB pitcher. While some of that is attributable to workload — he was 15th in innings pitched — it hints at a fly-ball profile that could give some evaluators pause. The Yankees reportedly stayed on the periphery of the bidding in part because of concerns that Imanaga wouldn’t profile well in a very hitter-friendly home park. Statcast’s Park Factors rate Wrigley Field as slightly favorable to home runs, but it’s not among the top handful of hitting venues in MLB.
Imanaga’s stellar strikeout/walk profile and consistently strong results generated quite a bit of interest. The Red Sox, Giants and Angels were all reported to be in the bidding of late. He’ll bypass those teams to step into a Chicago rotation that seems likely to lose Marcus Stroman to free agency.
Imanaga joins Justin Steele, Kyle Hendricks and Jameson Taillon as locks for the Opening Day rotation. The likes of Jordan Wicks, Javier Assad, Hayden Wesneski and prospect Ben Brown could battle for the #5 job. There’s still plenty of time for president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer and his front office to add another starter if they want to solidify the final spot and push all their younger, unproven arms into depth roles.
In addition to what they’re guaranteeing Imanaga, the Cubs will owe a posting fee to the BayStars. That’s proportional to the contract value: 20% of the deal’s first $25MM ($5MM), 17.5% of the next $25MM ($4.375MM) and 15% of further spending.
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I'm assuming that it will go Steele, Hendricks, Imanaga, Taillon, Wicks
 

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Given how little the Cubs are spending on Imanaga, I think they could possibly still trade for either Bieber or an outside chance at Cease.

I guess the real question is of the remaining FA pitchers, is anyone other than Snell or Montgomery a #2 or #1 if you consider Snell a #1?
 

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10:52pm: The contract surprisingly only guarantees roughly $30MM over two years, reports Jon Heyman of the New York Post (X link). The deal contains various options and escalators that could push its value to around $80MM over a still unclear length.
 

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