Chicago Cubs Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[Jntg4]

Maybe everyone should put Captain Ignore List on the Ignore List...

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Maybe everyone should put Captain Ignore List on the Ignore List...

nahh just laugh at the posts.

 

[Jntg4]

nahh just laugh at the posts.

Good point.

 

[Jntg4]

waldo's blog source, that actually links to waldo's blog, says that Fuke for Luis Castillo, Oliver Perez or Gil Meche has been rumored.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

waldo's blog source, that actually links to waldo's blog, says that Fuke for Luis Castillo, Oliver Perez or Gil Meche has been rumored.

Interesting.. I'd be willing to take a flyer on Oliver Perez granted if our "great" pitching coach could help him..

 

[Capt. Serious]

Maybe everyone should put Captain Ignore List on the Ignore List...

maybe he's Paul Sullivan in disguise..

 

[DewsSox79]

interesting.. I'd be willing to take a flyer on oliver perez granted if our "great" pitching coach could help him..

rofl!

 

[Captain Obvious]

No Dan Uggla... he's going to the Braves for former Cub Omar Infante and Mike Dunn.

Very classy sig Dewey.

 

[waldo7239117]

No Dan Uggla... he's going to the Braves for former Cub Omar Infante and Mike Dunn.

Very classy sig Dewey.

Former Cub Infante?? LOL.

That does not count.

 

[waldo7239117]

Jake Westbrook re-signs with the Cards. 2 years with a mutual option.

Thank you Cards!

 

[Derkach77]

We still in the running for Lee, Gonzo or Dunn? I thought we could grab at least one.

 

[waldo7239117]

We still in the running for Lee, Gonzo or Dunn? I thought we could grab at least one.

Lee: Yes, but no.
Gonzo: Yes.
Dunn: Yes, but no.

 

[waldo7239117]

Jake Westbrook re-signs with the Cards. 2 years with a mutual option.

Thank you Cards!

2 years; 16.5M. Damn, he got more than I would expect. I think it's too much. At least the Cubs never gave that to him.

 

[Derkach77]

Lee: Yes, but no.
Gonzo: Yes.
Dunn: Yes, but no.

So Gonzo seems to be the most possible. I thought that from the start and really hope it gets done.

 

[waldo7239117]

So Gonzo seems to be the most possible. I thought that from the start and really hope it gets done.

That's how I see it. If JH will get up 2 top spects, I think they could get him. But if not Gonzo won't be a Cub come 2011.

 

[waldo7239117]

The Cubs will have interest in loney, if made available.
Gonzo is still not on the trade block.
The Cubs would deal Byrd if they can get a run producing OF in return.

All by Levine.

 

[waldo7239117]

The Giants want to keep Huff, don't look for him in Cubbie blue next year.

Not surprise at all!

 

[DewsSox79]

Lee: Yes, but no.
Gonzo: Yes.
Dunn: Yes, but no.

you are not getting cliff lee, no yes but no.

gonzo i doubt gets dealt

dunn no

do you guys read the news? ricketts is in front of wrigley pan handling

 

[DewsSox79]

So? Unless there is something specific you can point to concerning his mechanics or pitch selection/technique that you think Rothschild will be able to fix (and something that has eluded the Rays coaching staff for the last five seasons), you're essentially arguing that Shields will become a better pitcher by way of some pitching osmosis. You can't just say "he'll be around this great pitching coach, so he'll be a better pitcher", that proves nothing, and supported by nothing.



Right, and that will be the largest percent of his games pitched in one park, more than likely. So why exactly should we not emphasize how he will pitch at his home ballpark, again?



That's just given the net-increase in home run output that we can attribute to his change in venue. Then we have to consider the fact that even though he is a fly ball pitcher, he has had relatively low HR/FB rates throughout his career, and some regression to the mean has the potential to exacerbate the problems seen just from him changing parks. And then, we have to account for the fact that Shields will be pitching in front of a far-worse defensive outfield for the Cubs than he did in Tampa Bay, so it is conceivable that his rates of doubles, triples and singles all go up. This will be through no fault of his own, mind you, as he has no control over his defense, but that doesn't mean that these thinks 1) won't happen and 2) aren't likely.



How do you figure? There's almost no telling what the rotation will be, when it will be fiddled with, who will go on short rest and so on, and thus it's nearly impossible to tell exactly what teams a pitcher will face on the road and how good those teams will be, especially considering the off-season just started.



You're going to have to explain in detail how you came about these numbers. They seem pretty dubious to me, especially considering the two leagues were comparable offensively last season.

I love how CO wants people to elaborate more, and when someone does he disappears.

 

[Jntg4]

Remember when he first came here and he wasn't dumber than my 7 year old brother?