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Eight isn't much better, especially when you're talking about a career that spanned eight seasons.
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Eight isn't much better, especially when you're talking about a career that spanned eight seasons.
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It's not his fault he only had 8 players play for the correct number of PAs...
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I'm not saying it is, just that you can't attribute these things specifically to him, as they are just as easily attributable to other things (age, park and luck, just to name a few).
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New the name to the mix: Jeremy Bonderman. The Cubs have interest in him, but how much, I don't know.
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depends who our new pitching coach is..
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Somone in the minors, probably, with Strode a long shot. The Cubs pitching coaches are not bad and are top in the league (in the minors).
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I just think players in the minors (Carp, Archer, JJ, etc) will do better than these vets the Cubs could bring it. Also, it saves money, but the arb years will come up earlier than they would probably hope for. That could be the set-back.
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The Cubs are expected to make a push for Jaiver Vaquez and this will happen over the next month. Maybe we could see a signing of Jaiver at the WM or another pitcher. We will at least hear rumors from now to the WM.
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Not a huge fan.. Maybe it wouldn't be terrible but I'm still not in favor.
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I fell the same, kinda. 3 years/33M, JH better tell Vaquez to **** off. If the price is decent and cheap, go for it, but if not, move onto another player or just play the youngsters.
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But have posted nothing to contradict it. Sure, it could be age, park, and/or luck. However, you have posted nothing to prove that. Until then, I will go ahead and go with the facts that we know, not just speculation.
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That's what the "facts" are telling you: nothing. Sure, you interpret them as meaning one thing and not a myriad of others (I'd guess because you don't want to be made to look the fool...again), but inherent in the numbers you use as affirmation of your conjectures is the variability and ambiguity I have been describing all along. The "facts" presented--those which you subscribe to--don't prove much of anything, so they cannot be treated as "facts" in any sense of the term. It's really hard for me to believe that you are dense enough to not understand this yet.
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That's what the "facts" are telling you: nothing. Sure, you interpret them as meaning one thing and not a myriad of others (I'd guess because you don't want to be made to look the fool...again), but inherent in the numbers you use as affirmation of your conjectures is the variability and ambiguity I have been describing all along. The "facts" presented--those which you subscribe to--don't prove much of anything, so they cannot be treated as "facts" in any sense of the term. It's really hard for me to believe that you are dense enough to not understand this yet.
No. The facts tell me that pitchers come to the Cubs see an increase in K/PA, BB/PA, and their HR/PA stays the same. Now, could it be something else besides Rothschild? Sure, it could. However, all you are saying is things that it could be. Until you post something that tells me otherwise, I will continue to hold Rothschild on the level I currently do. The fact is, he makes the most sense. Now, could I be wrong? Absolutely, but you have posted nothing to say that I am wrong, just other possibilities.
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Ok, so then you're going to look at data with small sample sizes, literally no isolation of variables (ok, well one: team before and after some arbitrary point), and dubious reliability of the statistics viewed in those small sample sizes, and say "It could be anything, but I'm going to say that it's this one thing, because nobody has shown it definitively to be something else". That's really, really stupid. Like, a lot stupid.
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Well that's just it... your small sample size is wrong. K/PA becomes reliable at 150 BF and BB/PA at 550 BF. Proof.
You act as if a pitching coach has absolutely no effect on the players, which is just not true.
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Lefty, I have a question....why do you even reply to CO? You know his arguments are weak and you'll disagree with everything he says. Let's see here, he probably still thinks the Cubs will sign Dunn, Larry fixes all bad pitchers to aces, Randy Wells is a helluva pitcher and his newest one...CO says "I'll take Hoff over Nady on a year contract." That last one I found funny as hell.
Nady will only cost like 2.5M more than Hoff and brings way more. He's a WAY WAY better defender, will hit for a better average, takes more walks. But, the power numbers could be down.
Nady will only cost like 2.5M more than Hoff and brings way more. He's a WAY WAY better defender, will hit for a better average, takes more walks. But, the power numbers could be down.
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http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/155495-post360.html
:lmao: Yeah, that's been my point all along. Come on, is this all you have left? Resorting to completely misrepresenting my points and arguments? Please, child.
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:lmao: Yeah, that's been my point all along. Come on, is this all you have left? Resorting to completely misrepresenting my points and arguments? Please, child.
.70 is where things become reliable. Sure .79 is more reliable, but .7 is reliable as well, so all those players are valid.
Okay, if that is your point, explain to me Dave Duncan.
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Oh. My. God. Really? Read that post I linked a couple more times, slowly. Take notes if you must.
What? I'm not going to argue for some misrepresentation of my point just because you don't want to be made the n-bomb to steal on.
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dont use misdirection to avoid being wrong. not bein mean just bein honest.
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