Chicago Cubs Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[waldo7239117]

Vaquez wants a 1 year deal only. Already turned down multi year deals from 2 clubs. I'm all for this more now, depending on price.

 

[Jntg4]

Vazquez sucks though. Get a new PC first.

 

[waldo7239117]

Vazquez sucks though. Get a new PC first.

They will in the next 2 weeks or so. Vaquez was good in the NL, but sucked with the Yankees.

However, talks between Vaquez and the Marlins are "hot".

 

[Jntg4]

Naquez?

 

[waldo7239117]

Naquez?

My bad, haha.

 

[Jntg4]

My bad, haha.

Bet he's better than Vazquez though.

 

[waldo7239117]

Bet he's better than Vazquez though.

Maybe, he's Dominican.

 

[waldo7239117]

Carlos Pena was not offered arbitration.

 

[Jntg4]

Don't want to give up anything to get him, but wouldn't really be mad.

 

[waldo7239117]

Don't want to give up anything to get him, but wouldn't really be mad.

The Cubs won't..

 

[Jntg4]

The Cubs won't..

Meant about Vazquez, you said he's Type B.

 

[waldo7239117]

Meant about Vazquez, you said he's Type B.

Gotcha..

 

[Lefty]

Okay, I will give you that Rothschild probably didn't have everything to do with it. We don't know how much he had to do with it. However, Rothschild's point he pushes through to pitchers is K's. He works with them on Ks. Now, could it be a coincidence that he focuses on K's and the Cubs have amazing K rates? Yeah, it could. However, the writing is right on the wall.

No, it isn't. Your bias is present right there in the bolded part, in your use of "could". The question of whether it is a coincidence is not up for debate, however the questions of 1) whether is Rothschild the cause of noted increases and 2) (this is like the 34896942387th fucking time I've had to explain this to you) whether the increases seen are out of the ordinary in some respect and thus can be viewed as something that would not otherwise be attainable by said pitchers, are all still very much in question. There is no "writing on the wall". There only are un-adjusted numbers that. Don't. Prove. Anything.

 

[Jntg4]

No, it isn't. Your bias is present right there in the bolded part, in your use of "could". The question of whether it is a coincidence is not up for debate, however the questions of 1) whether is Rothschild the cause of noted increases and 2) (this is like the 34896942387th fucking time I've had to explain this to you) whether the increases seen are out of the ordinary in some respect and thus can be viewed as something that would not otherwise be attainable by said pitchers, are all still very much in question. There is no "writing on the wall". There only are un-adjusted numbers that. Don't. Prove. Anything.

Maybe he'll get it someday.

 

[waldo7239117]

Maybe he'll get it someday.

LOL. Ummmmm, NO. C'mon jnt don't speak nonsense, haha.

 

[Jntg4]

LOL. Ummmmm, NO. C'mon jnt don't speak nonsense, haha.

Just have faith waldo.

 

[waldo7239117]

Just have faith waldo.

I'll pass.

 

[waldo7239117]

Padilla was not offered arbitration..

 

[Captain Obvious]

Vazquez sucks though. Get a new PC first.

How does Vazquez suck? This outta be good...

 

[DewsSox79]

How does Vazquez suck? This outta be good...

he is an average pitcher at best. he had one good year in 2009.