Coaching /GM Interview Tracker (Liam Coen is a Jag, Pirate Pete is a Raider, Cowboys hired a guy)

[mecha]

Ben Johnson to the Raiders is almost a done deal.
Lions trade Hendon Hooker (knows BJ offense) and a 2nd round pick for Max Crosby.
Bears fans be crying.

what's the shelf life of the average Raiders head coach?

after Madden and Flores I think Gruden wound up being the longest tenured lol

in other words **** it, it's Johnson's to lose. then you all can see how brilliant of a head coach he can be.

 

[Szlachcic]

Ben Johnson to the Raiders is almost a done deal.
Lions trade Hendon Hooker (knows BJ offense) and a 2nd round pick for Max Crosby.
Bears fans be crying.

Wrong. Bears fans win- win either way. Either BJ is the head coach here, or gone from the NFC N, and Lions weakened forever.

 

[--CyBear--]

That's my point.

He doesn't want a project and to roll the dice on a quarterback.

He wants the quarterback to be a known quantity, or at least to know enough about them to know what their floor is and that there's a lot of room to grow.

He passed on the commanders last year so that tells you what high standards he has.

Then why would he have wanted the Bear job last year? Can he not evaluate talent or are you saying he'd only take a gig assured of Caleb. Are you suggesting he's not a good talent evaluator? Are you just trying to find some niche not to be wrong?

 

[--CyBear--]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879578703618863272

Let's hope that one truly is COMPLETED.

 

[--CyBear--]

Johnson, Monken, McCarthy in that order for me. Want that O guy. Not that fond of McCarthy overall but he gets points for being a proven commodity. Sort of the Bear meh safe choice. Not very innovative and needs players to fit the (WC) system instead of fitting a O to his players like the other 2. I'd rather have guys that overcome injuries and roster changes better than McCarthy who seems to need all his ducks in a row but has been very good when that happens. He got Dak overpaid.

 

[nc0gnet0]

what's the shelf life of the average Raiders head coach?

after Madden and Flores I think Gruden wound up being the longest tenured lol

in other words **** it, it's Johnson's to lose. then you all can see how brilliant of a head coach he can be.

A bears fan talking about the life expectancy of a HC?
GTFO

 

[dbldrew]

We can play this game all day! The team that went 15 - 3 in the division will be losing their Offensive and potentially their Defensive Coordinator, as well as some additional coaches. Ben has been changing his offense every year to take advantage of his personnel; I'm sure he would do that wherever he goes. Are you saying that he wouldn't have to change his system to accommodate Aidan O'Connell?

And the QB that drove that team to 15-3 will still be there. And that QB has had multiple 4600 yard 28-32TD seasons before BJ was his OC.
Goff has always been a good QB, his kryptonite has been pressure. If you can pressure him he will give the ball and game to the other team, so unless BJ is also taking the OL with him then I wouldn't expect a huge dropoff on offense.

 

[dbldrew]

Johnson, Monken, McCarthy in that order for me. Want that O guy. Not that fond of McCarthy overall but he gets points for being a proven commodity. Sort of the Bear meh safe choice. Not very innovative and needs players to fit the (WC) system instead of fitting a O to his players like the other 2. I'd rather have guys that overcome injuries and roster changes better than McCarthy who seems to need all his ducks in a row but has been very good when that happens. He got Dak overpaid.

I would be fine with all 3 of them, but I think the "proven commodity" with McCarthy is a pretty big deal. Who has Johnson or Monken developed? At least with McCarthy he developed Rodgers.

In a few years if CW is still struggling, who's fault is it? If the HC is Johnson or Monken then the question is the HC not developing him correctly? If the HC is McCarthy then you know for a fact it's a CW issue.

Development of CW is a pretty big deal, McCarthy checks that box.

 

[msadows]

And the QB that drove that team to 15-3 will still be there. And that QB has had multiple 4600 yard 28-32TD seasons before BJ was his OC.
Goff has always been a good QB, his kryptonite has been pressure. If you can pressure him he will give the ball and game to the other team, so unless BJ is also taking the OL with him then I wouldn't expect a huge dropoff on offense.

Goff still struggles under pressure. I dont know the stats this year but last year he had the largest gap between qb rating in a clean pocket vs. pressured.

He's always been great in a clean pocket, even in his early years on the rams

 

[msadows]

I would be fine with all 3 of them, but I think the "proven commodity" with McCarthy is a pretty big deal. Who has Johnson or Monken developed? At least with McCarthy he developed Rodgers.

In a few years if CW is still struggling, who's fault is it? If the HC is Johnson or Monken then the question is the HC not developing him correctly? If the HC is McCarthy then you know for a fact it's a CW issue.

Development of CW is a pretty big deal, McCarthy checks that box.

Lamar did take his passing game to a completely different level under monken. You can certainly account that growth to lamar himself, but before monken he was an average NFL passer, now he's arguably top 5.

Monken has also been succesful at a lot of stops. I don't get the vic fangio comparison outside of them both being older. Vic was a DC for like 25 straight years prior to becoming a HC, Monken has only been an NFL OC for 6 years, most of his work was in college.

I do agree with you however, McCarthy is much safer and would ensure the development of caleb williams.

 

[gpphat]

This organization is a fucking dumpster fire. This is beyond stupid. Over 20+ candidates. Just tell the whole world you have no fucking clue what you are doing.

Jokes on you.....the whole world already knows the Bears have no fucking clue

 

[NeverDieEasy]

If that’s the case they might as well go with an ultra young guy who has some upside like Brady or Cohen. Good chance it’s a disaster but would rather swing on a mcvay type move then a retread aka Fox part II

Tarik is now a HC candidate?!

 

[dbldrew]

Lamar did take his passing game to a completely different level under monken. You can certainly account that growth to lamar himself, but before monken he was an average NFL passer, now he's arguably top 5.

Monken has also been succesful at a lot of stops. I don't get the vic fangio comparison outside of them both being older. Vic was a DC for like 25 straight years prior to becoming a HC, Monken has only been an NFL OC for 6 years, most of his work was in college.

I do agree with you however, McCarthy is much safer and would ensure the development of caleb williams.

I actually like Monken better then Johnson. I would be OK with Johnson but think he is the biggest risk out of all 3. He is just more of an unknown at this point.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Ben Johnson to the Raiders is almost a done deal.
Lions trade Hendon Hooker (knows BJ offense) and a 2nd round pick for Max Crosby.
Bears fans be crying.

Lmao. They brought in bridgewater because they don’t believe in Hooker, at all. Crosby ain’t going for a 2nd even with a bum like Hooker.

 

[gpphat]

That's my point.

He doesn't want a project and to roll the dice on a quarterback.

He wants the quarterback to be a known quantity, or at least to know enough about them to know what their floor is and that there's a lot of room to grow.

He passed on the commanders last year so that tells you what high standards he has.

Where is this being said....other than out your fat mouth?

 

[Luke]

I actually like Monken better then Johnson. I would be OK with Johnson but think he is the biggest risk out of all 3. He is just more of an unknown at this point.

The big risk for George is that BJ wants 15mil/yr like a SB winning HC would demand.
I would think that you could get Monken for at least half of that.

 

[msadows]

Lmao. They brought in bridgewater because they don’t believe in Hooker, at all. Crosby ain’t going for a 2nd even with a bum like Hooker.

This idiot thinks top 5 NFL pass rushers go for 2nd round picks?

A guy like garrett, micah, maxx crosby, etc will cost at least a first and a 2nd.

 

[bamainatlanta]

This idiot thinks top 5 NFL pass rushers go for 2nd round picks?

A guy like garrett, micah, maxx crosby, etc will cost at least a first and a 2nd.

But Hendon Hooker will lower that price to a 2nd!

 

[msadows]

The big risk for George is that BJ wants 15mil/yr like a SB winning HC would demand.
I would think that you could get Monken for at least half of that.

At this point i doubt that matters for any of these 3 organizations(jags,raiders,bears)

Bears being cheap is an old dated joke at this point, they have paid players top dollar and also fired coaches with multiple years left.

If it costs 15m and they actually want bj then they will pay him 15m.

 

[msadows]

But Hendon Hooker will lower that price to a 2nd!

Yea the 3rd string qb.

Aidan O connell is much better than hooker. Is ben johnson trying to collect bad qb's in las vegas?