Countdown To The Trade Deadline: Up To Date Rumors And Discussion(Hawks Edition)

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I'm also not a huge fan of trading for a goalie...craw is good enough to win with if our Defense was better...our defense is where we need to improve.


If you really want to improve our goaltending, wait till the summer when Lindback and Schneider are RFA's. That way we either get a goalie, or screw the preds/canucks out of money

just my opinion...we need defensive help. Again, if the red wings taught us anything, its that you can win with decent goaltending...Crawford is a decent goaltender IMO
 

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I have always stated that i dont trust kane. Now do I wish for him to be traded? no...so dont get confused in my post. If there is a trade that makes the hawks better for the now and the future by moving kane, im in. The one thing i disagree with, with many of the bloggers are the kane for a premier goalie. you can get by with good defense and an avg goalie....we have a below avg d and a below avg goalie(s).
 

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I have always stated that i dont trust kane. Now do I wish for him to be traded? no...so dont get confused in my post. If there is a trade that makes the hawks better for the now and the future by moving kane, im in. The one thing i disagree with, with many of the bloggers are the kane for a premier goalie. you can get by with good defense and an avg goalie....we have a below avg d and a below avg goalie(s).

What because he drinks a lot? Then you wouldn't trust any hockey player, ever. Only difference between him and the others is he got caught.
 

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What because he drinks a lot? Then you wouldn't trust any hockey player, ever. Only difference between him and the others is he got caught.

alot of factors other than his drinking.
 

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these people who want buff back are fucking out of their minds.
 

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alot of factors other than his drinking.

Let's hear some. Because I don't see why you want to trade the guy who is probably the most offensively-skilled player in Chicago in about 40 years.
 

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Let's hear some. Because I don't see why you want to trade the guy who is probably the most offensively-skilled player in Chicago in about 40 years.

settle down there. toews>kane first off.

Again you are taking this as I want him gone now, which isnt true.

but negatives:
forget the immature social life
if you go to alot of games like myself and hawkwriter (dunno what he sees) but i watch more of the play away from the puck more than i do the actual action (except while in front of the net) kane causes ALOT of the issues in transition that you dont see on tv, in other words he dogs it ALOT. is he skilled? yes. is he undersized and is the book out on him? yeah, i would imagine since he is isolated no matter what line he is on now. his two way play would need to improve for me to say that i would never trade him.
 

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since Pekka Rinne is signed long term for the Preds, throw an offer sheet at Lindback.
 

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since Pekka Rinne is signed long term for the Preds, throw an offer sheet at Lindback.

Agree

im guessing 2.5 mil per would be enough for the preds not to match
 

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since Pekka Rinne is signed long term for the Preds, throw an offer sheet at Lindback.

Offer sheets are rarely worth it for the team attempting to sign the player.

If the Blackhawks were to sign Lindback (or any other RFA) to an offer sheet and the Preds don't match then...

1. The Blackhawks probably overpaid for Lindback (cap hit wise)
2. The Blackhawks are going to have to give up more draft picks because they overpaid for Lindback
 

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settle down there. toews>kane first off.

Again you are taking this as I want him gone now, which isnt true.

but negatives:
forget the immature social life
if you go to alot of games like myself and hawkwriter (dunno what he sees) but i watch more of the play away from the puck more than i do the actual action (except while in front of the net) kane causes ALOT of the issues in transition that you dont see on tv, in other words he dogs it ALOT. is he skilled? yes. is he undersized and is the book out on him? yeah, i would imagine since he is isolated no matter what line he is on now. his two way play would need to improve for me to say that i would never trade him.

Offensively speaking, no Kane has more skills than Toews. But Toews is the better all-around player.

The book's out on Kane, huh? He's on pace for 65 points. If that's the book, I'm reading it all day.

As for the Kane "dogging it" argument, I'm not gonna tell you he's always giving his effort 140% of the time because that'd just be a lie. But I'm yet to see moments where Kane's lackadaisical backcheck resulting in chances/goals showed to be a serious issue. He does take more chances on offense because that's the type of player he is.

Ultimately, yeah, I could see scenarios where Kane is tradeable, sure. But not for at least 5 years, and probably more like 10, unless your getting a Vezina-quality goalies in return.
 

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Lets go back in the time machine and not give up Niemi.

I've got access to a DeLorean Stan.

At the time keeping Hjalmarsson over Niemi seemed like a no-brainer. Now, not so sure, because Hjalmarsson hasn't really been as good as he was in 09-10 and Niemi seems to be at least equal, if not better.
 

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At the time keeping Hjalmarsson over Niemi seemed like a no-brainer. Now, not so sure, because Hjalmarsson hasn't really been as good as he was in 09-10 and Niemi seems to be at least equal, if not better.

I wouldn't call it a no brainer by any stretch.

It's just frustrating to think about given the unsure goalie situation this team has had since the decision was made.
 

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im fine with niemi gone. hj was supposed to improve like a lot of scouts stated and didnt. goalies arent a premium, dmen are. its just that we have very very bad goalies mixed with subpar dmen
 
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