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Please reference Theo's dip in spending in 2003 then raise in spending in 2004...again.
That's putting it lightly.
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I do understand that. Im sorry but i feel and again just my opinion that Cub fans have been suffering long enough that they should be spending the money into the MLB over spending on Academy in DR, Spring Training complex, over buying McDonalds land to build a shop.
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Theo already had a 90 + win team there. He didnt come here to that. He has no farm here to bring guys up. So whats the best way to build a winning team while building up farm. in FA
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No you don't because you are arguiong against it as though it's a bad idea.
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You are more than welcome to write an angry letter to the Cubs telling them how angry you are. I'm also fairly confident that they don't give a shit.
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WHICH IS THE POINT OF HIM TRYING TO BUILD THE TEAM CORREVTLY RATHER THAN KEEP DOING THE SAME OLD BROKEN SHIT THAT HASN'T WORKED FOR THE CUBS.
Yeah because we saw how well that worked out for the Cubs with all those playoff wins in 2007 and 2008 and the sustained success they had as a result!
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Your right they woudlnt give a shit. Thats why forums are on the internet so pissed off fans can vent here
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Rickett's will piss on his grandpa's grave
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WHICH IS THE POINT OF HIM TRYING TO BUILD THE TEAM CORREVTLY RATHER THAN KEEP DOING THE SAME OLD BROKEN SHIT THAT HASN'T WORKED FOR THE CUBS.
Yeah because we saw how well that worked out for the Cubs with all those playoff wins in 2007 and 2008 and the sustained success they had as a result!
Again playoffs are a crap shoot. Just get in and anything can happen. Again BUILDING UP THE FARM IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE NEVER SAID NOT TO!!!!!!!!!! What im saying is WHILE they are building up the farm for the next 4-6 years ,which it will take with NEW CBA AGREEMENT, they could have spent money in FA! to help field a compeitive team NOW and WHEN that farm is BUILT up and ready to produce at the MLB level, those contracts that would have been signed this offseason would have been off the books. Then in 4-6 years HOPEFULLY they wouldnt have to go out and spend like crazy in FA again. Im saying cause they were left with no farm from Tribune, that to field a compeitive team they would have to spend in FA for next 4-6 years. Building an organization stictly off FA is bad. Thats just common sense. BUT Big market teams like the Cubs can afford to spend in FA WHILE they are building up the farm. Again thats just my opinion on a BIG MARKET TEAM! Now if i was a fan of SMALL Or MEDIUM market team then my opinion would be different. They cant go out and spend in FA to build a compeitive market team. They have to suck till they build farm up. Thats why Large Market teams are in playoffs alot more then small market teams.
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Rice Cube is actually havin a convestaion. Your just a tool. Grow up
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Im arguing i would take different approach over the next 4-6 years while Cubs are building up the farm.
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The problem is, again, that the Tribune and Wrigley family never actually treated the Cubs like a big market team, so revenue streams were basically ticket sales, merchandise and concessions. The large payroll was, again, a smokescreen. The Cubs CAN become a big market team, but that will take a ton of work. The fact is that if you build a team right (2000s Twins, A's, the recent Texas Rangers, Rays) you can get to the playoffs consistently.
You can also look at the Braves. They rarely had a Yankees-size payroll and yet were able to get to the playoffs something like 15 times in a row. Yeah, they only won one championship, but you have to get there first in order to win. The Cubs are trying to set up the small plan first before they become the Yankees of the National League. You have to walk before you can run.
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I think we've also established that D3A thinks the team could have contended with just Fielder and Edwin Jackson as the major signings. That's going to have to be a point of disagreement for glaringly obvious reasons
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Do you even see the irony in this statement?. You're running around raising 3 kids, and didn't have enough sense to stop there. So if your point was having a litter of children somehow adds wisdom to your re-building ideas, it does just the opposite.
Building any franchise using FA as a primary means is never a good idea in any sport. You continually have to overpay for other people's developed talent/drafting skills(see Yankees and Redskins as prime examples). FA's should always be an addition made to round-out and improve your base talent, as the Angels did w/Pujols. That team already has a strong farm system and a decent pool of talent, not the case w/the Cubs except perhaps a better farm system than many thought.
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Which is what they were trying to do......yet it failed.
badly.
So now they are going a new and more concise, focused, well thought out and well lead direction.
LOL at saying the playoffs are a crap shoot yet citing teams that are consistantly in the playoffs. The playoffs, even if they are a crap shoot...which they aren't...making the playoffs if NOT A CRAP SHOOT.
So using your awful logic..if we agree the playoffs are a crap shoot and the goal is to basically get in and then all hell breaks loose and what happens happens then the goal is to make the playoffs consistantly.
Something teams like the Red Sox, Yankees, Phillies, etc do.
So the Cubs hired the best young minds from one of those teams to come in and do the job and now you're saying THAT's WRONG. Are we honestly supposed to believe that you know more on how to build this thung than Theo Epstein who has two WS rings and is leaving a Red Sox team that has a strong MLB team, MiLB system, organization, etc?
GTF out of here with that crap.The Cubs weren't in position to sign people this year to vault them into te playoffs over teams like the Cards, Brewers, and Reds in their own divison..let alone elsewhere. When your master plan revolves around Edwin fucking Jackson pssibly being your #2 starter. You need a new plan.
Then there was NO POINT TO SIGNING THEM. They weren't going to help you win now..or in the future.
Wasted money!
it must not be to you since that's what you want the Cubs to do right now.
Jesus Christ.
Your opinion sucks.
Correction.
Rice Cube and I are having a conversation. You've pissed your pants again
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An approach that you already admitted was a bad idea according to "common sense"
That's going to have to be a point of disagreement for glaringly obvious reasons
d3a is Special person?
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I understand what they doing. I really do. Im just arguing that SOME fans dont have the patience to watch a team that hasnt won WS in 103 years rebuild espicially when we have see Cubs in playoffs 3 times in last decade. Also there is no guarentee that this rebuild will work. Yes i think the chances have gone up cause they brought in the right front office. There is still a a 50/50 chance in 5 yrs we talking about how bad the team is and that the farm is still not great. Cuase of new agreement rebuilding has become that much harder. Even Theo and Hoyer have admitted that the new CBA threw a crinkle into there plans a bit.
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Rice Cube and i actually having a conversation. Your just trolling the thread. Either have respect of GTFO
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No you don't.
If you did.
You'd agree with it.
ie some fans
ie stupid people
ie you
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