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Cain will re-sign with the Giants. I'm more skeptical on Hamels, but would not be surprise if he did too. Yeah 20 million a year is just completery ridiculous.
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Wow... i do exactly what Rice Cube told me to do. He told me to do what i would do if everything stays the same FA wise. I even put things will change on the post. I did exactly what i would do if i were Cubs GM. I put HR down as there potential. Why no to Either? All teams would have chance at Cain and Hamels. So how come your acting like no chance. Guys usually sign by ST and if they dont they will hit the FA market. Reports are both pitchers are not looking for team friendly deals. Again this is what i would TRY to do if i were GM.
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So glad you know what the players are thinking now. Sorry all mighty one. So if the SP go cheaper then what i put then i would have spent less money.
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Yeah, there's no way the Giants will let Cain go. Pitching is their thing and really only what they care about, so he'll sign an extension. Hamels I don't know about, but said it would not surprise me if he does re-sign with the Phills.
Cain could get 18-20 million a year, but would be stupid to give that to him. Pitchers get hurt too easy (just look at Johan Santana and that contract). I would give him a max of 15 million a year.
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Ethier has been linked to Boston once he hits the open amrket since last season. He's not coming to the Cubs.
LOL at handing out 20 million a year to Cain and Hamels..neither of whom are likely to leave their current situations. San Francisco has shown they will dump money into pitching and Philly might have to let Hamels walk because of some large contracts they have, but even still 20 million a year to Hamels leaving the team with shit in the bullpen and a marginal lineup isn't making this team a contender.
As usual your postings and plans are absolute horesehit and your financial and lineup projections somehow suck even worse.
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The first bold is Erick Aybar. I'm not sure I want to commit that much money to a guy who is basically all batting average but can't get on base at a much better rate than Darwin Barney. He does have a bit more power than Barney, but that's a money commitment I don't see the new Cubs management making because 1. he's too expensive for what he can bring and 2. there's a cheap guy in house who can do that already.
Erick Aybar Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
The second bold is Andre Ethier. I believe he has injury issues and while he has good on-base skills, for whatever reason his power isn't showing up that well and that's not good for a corner guy.
Andre Ethier Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
I guess if DeJesus sucks they can just cut him since his contract is relatively cheap, but you're talking about a fairly minor upgrade here for twice the money, even with the fact that Ethier is two years younger and has more power.
David DeJesus Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
As for Cain and Hamels, yeah their contract extensions are sort of at an impasse right now, but there were a lot of contract extensions that keep getting put on hold and then they magically happen (Ryan Zimmerman and Yadier Molina come to mind). $40MM per annum or more for two starting pitchers is one hell of an expenditure and while it's a great upgrade, you will definitely lose one or two draft picks for each guy, which hampers the "build" part of the equation. It's pretty hard to build a team when you cough up draft picks. Garza is a different story for another thread.
At least you have a plan, but I view it as a rather inefficient and expensive plan that has a lot of potential to fail. The "build" plan does have potential to fail as well, but it's not going to be as ludicrously expensive.
If one or two prospects pan out and get this team from 70 wins to 75+, and if a few trades happen to secure good young pitching, AND if frontline starters like Greinke, Cain and Hamels become available, then I can definitely see them spending money. That's a lot of ifs though.
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Yeah, I had read your response but decided to go watch a movie with the wife since it was getting late and I didn't feel like being up all night explaining to you why your plan won't work.
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The question you have to ask yourself is in multiple parts...
1. How many wins does it take, on average, to win the NL Central?
2. How many wins does it take, on average, to secure one of the two wild cards in the league?
3. How many wins does the team have before they start spending in free agency?
4. Who's available in free agency who can get us from the scenario in 3. to 1. or 2. ?
5. Is it worth it?
5. is the most important question that I alluded to above, because not only are you breaking the bank to get this team from 70 wins to 85 (or whatever), you are also forfeiting draft picks to acquire cheap, cost-controlled production in the future. You are right that baseball (including the Cubs) is run like a business, because it has to be or nobody would want to own a baseball team because they can't make money doing so. You want to run that business as efficiently as possible. Spending however many millions of dollars to bring in outside talent to get a team from 70 wins to 85 is not efficient. It may work, but it's still really wasteful and after all is said and done, you'll probably find yourself in the same boat as after 2008.
1. How many wins does it take, on average, to win the NL Central?
2. How many wins does it take, on average, to secure one of the two wild cards in the league?
3. How many wins does the team have before they start spending in free agency?
4. Who's available in free agency who can get us from the scenario in 3. to 1. or 2. ?
5. Is it worth it?
5. is the most important question that I alluded to above, because not only are you breaking the bank to get this team from 70 wins to 85 (or whatever), you are also forfeiting draft picks to acquire cheap, cost-controlled production in the future. You are right that baseball (including the Cubs) is run like a business, because it has to be or nobody would want to own a baseball team because they can't make money doing so. You want to run that business as efficiently as possible. Spending however many millions of dollars to bring in outside talent to get a team from 70 wins to 85 is not efficient. It may work, but it's still really wasteful and after all is said and done, you'll probably find yourself in the same boat as after 2008.
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Just cause Either linked to BOS dont mean he going there. There already been grumbling Theo LOVES Either. SO STFU THERE U TOOL!!!! Again i went off the FA list i was given you fucking tool. Yes that 1-3 SP and lineup would contend in a WEAK NLC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You a fucking tool who needs to get off on something else then bashing a guy who knows more about baseball then you know about getting a girl in bed.
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Isnt this all IF'S? You ask me on what i would do this offseason as of now. That is what i would do...
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That's what's amazing to me that d3a can't see. We've seen a big spending team collapse with nothing backing it up. Here we sit. d3a want sto spend big, forfeit picks and basicalyl repeat the same mistakes that got us here because his grandpa has seen the Cubs lose alot. Tremendous plan...............
Dude is bitching(stupidly at that) to just *****. It's almost not even worth responding to anymore because his plan/logic is so bad, devoid of any actual or rational thought and is basically a repeat of what we've seen with how this Cubs organization has already collapsed.
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Right, but you conceded that it's possible none of the starters would be available, and I've explained to you why Aybar and Ethier wouldn't be wise expenditures. What's your contingency plan?
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I think that is more then going from 70 to 85 wins. With that top 3 SP you have chance to win everday. Then 4-5th spot we dont know yet. Again you told me to put what I THINK. Do i think they will go do this? Hell no i dont. I dont think Ricketts will spend the money. They rather spend the money on McDonalds parking lot, ST compelx, DR complex.
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So do a lot of people. Sadly, Ethier loves Boston by most all accounts. He doesn't love Theo(not that I have seen reported)
And failed miserably.
Except the NLC isn't weak.
St Louis, Milwaukee, Cincy are all quality teams.
I have yet to see that person on this board. And I know he's not in this thread.
Go relive your shitty pitching days with your kids. I'm sure they will care.
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I disagree with Aybar and Either being just little bumps up from Dejesus and Barney. Again if none of these guys are avaible then you just keep moving on with rebuilding plan. As i have said on many post i dont just spend the money on who ever. I spend on guys that are young and in primes. You guys told me to go off FA list and i did. I put ANYTHING CAN CHANGE in the next 8 months. You guys are just fishing to keep an argument going. Espically that TOOL First Timer. Dude needs to get laid!!!
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ZOMG RICKETT"S WON'T SPEND THE MONIEZ.......................despite him investing/wanting to invest 1.4 billion into the team to actually expand the financial footprint and available revenue of the team and investing a bunch more money into a front office with a history of spending money in major markets.
LOL at d3a's continued retardation.
LOL at d3a's continued retardation.
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Ethier isn't in his prime now. Nor will he be in 2 years.
He's actually already begun regressing from his best season
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1: YOUR A TOOL
2: I havent read one thing where he LOVES BOS..show me article
3: I didnt fail you complete tool. I want to see you pick better guys then i did u TOOL
4: There Qualitity BUT not STUDLY like other teams in other divisions. That team would compete with other teams easy
5: YOUR A TOOL
6: YOUR A TOOL
7: GET LAID ( prolly by another dude but hey whatever floats ur ass)
8: YOUR A TOOL
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Big Lulz at d3a thinking Soriano will hit .250 with 30HR's.....something he hasn't done since 2007.
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