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Personally I don't think he has a shot at being an every day option, anyway. He's just not that good.
Personally I don't think he has a shot at being an every day option, anyway. He's just not that good.
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I'd rather play Colvin for a year next year before signing a FA OF. I still don't think the Cubs know what they have there. I think Colvin could hit 30 HRs in about 130-140 starts in a platoon with Baker or someone else.
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It's not all about the HRs though. It's not really worth it, when he has a .310 OBP. They have given him chances. He's just not that good.
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This year has been a lot of spot chances, PH AB's or meaningless AB's at the end of games. Those aren't fair chances to him, and certainly not fair to the Cubs front office in finding out if Colvin can be a servicable MLB player going forward. I think Colvin can be a servicable starter on a 85+ win team.
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Did you miss last year? He had nearly 400 PAs.
I don't think he can be a serviceable starter. He is a liability. He doesn't have the bat for RF or 1B, his defense isn't good enough for CF, and Soriano is our LFer. Not really sure what you see in him
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i think colvin can improve to become a 3rd OF...he still needs to improve a bit offensively(again plate discipline) as well as getting more defensive experience
he isnt going to get that if he doesnt get more some more time..
do i think he will ever become even a good player? not really as i have said about 100 times his ceiling is not very high...but he has room improve
and soriano..lol..his defense is piss poor now because he has deteriorated athletically
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I still think the best option next year for LF is a "platoon" of Colvin/Soriano, under the assumption that you have to pay Soriano's entire salary no matter what you do.
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Keeping him in the minors next year will burn an option either way. Players drafted and/or signed at the age of 20 or older only get 2 full minor league seasons before options aren't put in play. Players younger than 20 get 3 years. This is Jackson's 2nd full seasons of service time in the minors, and he was signed at 20 years old. If he gets put on the 40-man and doesn't get called up this year... he burns an option at this point (his service time for this elapsed sometime in July). His placement on the 40-man roster next season will not have an effect on his options... one will be burned if he's in the minors at any point.... period.
The only thing that will be effected by Jackson being on the 40-man roster next year while in the minors will be how much he gets paid... and the fact that he could be called up at any time to the major league level.
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What? If Colvin is a liability, what does that make Soriano? Soriano is not an asset.
I think Colvin can be a 30 HR player with consistent playing time. That may not be a lot, but he's not due to hit free agency until 2016. The value Colvin carries is tremendous.
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What makes you think that A) he can be a "3rd OFer" and B) he can improve offensively.
I think that is more wishful thinking. I just don't see anyway that they do that, given Soriano's salary. However, the production, assuming Colvin returns to his 2010 form would be outstanding.
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I think if you cherry pick the starts for Soriano and mix it with Colvin it could be a decent low OBP/high slg. A lot is assuming you get anything close to 2010 production from him which isn't assured. Just looking at what is available I think that is the best route.
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I've never heard that clause of it before. I thought the only way was to get a major league contract out of the draft or be assigned to the 40 man roster. Interesting to know, but as we've gone over there are reasons to not add Jackson now.
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HR count doesn't mean much. Sure, he can hit 30 HR, but at what cost? a .310 OBP? That's not going to cut it.
Soriano can at least hit. Colvin can't.
Colvin and Soriano are both the type of players that this team needs to avoid. Too impatient.
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Though been reading what I can find on the rules, and an interesting provision is that if a player doesn't accrue more than 20 days in the minors it doesn't count as an option. So Jackson could start the season in minors, but if he was called up before that 20 day period it still wouldn't count as an option if he remained on the 25 man roster the rest of the season.
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sorianos OBP is stellar 
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It is better than Colvin's right now...really though given the situation I think it could work out to be decent production maybe even close to .800 OPS which would be great considering the situation.
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how many at bats colvin vs soriano?
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LOL at Soriano can hit, yeah for 2 weeks a season.
So you want the Cubs to avoid Colvin because he's a little impatient. :lol:
A player under team control until 2016 with 30 HR potential, the capability to hit 20 HR in 130 games, and you want the Cubs to part with him because he isn't patient enough? That's a joke, no one on this current Cubs team takes walks besides Pena at a high clip.
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Realize he hasn't gotten many ABs, but just thought it was worth noting that Colvin isn't exactly in OBP machine himself.
LOL at Soriano can hit, yeah for 2 weeks a season.
So you want the Cubs to avoid Colvin because he's a little impatient. :lol:
A player under team control until 2016 with 30 HR potential, the capability to hit 20 HR in 130 games, and you want the Cubs to part with him because he isn't patient enough? That's a joke, no one on this current Cubs team takes walks besides Pena at a high clip.
Soto does a pretty good job at taking walks. When Jackson gets here that would put us back to 3 guys that are actually willing to take walks, and perhaps we will get up to 29th next year in terms of taking walks.
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I think Dews was asking how you would split the ABs between Colvin and Soriano.
Yeah I forgot Soto, but I don't want him to be a part of the Cubs going forward
