Cubs Farm System And Prospects Discussion Thread

[CSF77]

The only percentage I care about is the 70% of ABs Kris Bryant will be producing a home run for the Cubs over the next 15 years :fap:

ESPN is calling Russell the Cubs best prospect. (including Bryant) Hard to argue it. When he promotes this team takes off.

 

[JosMin]

ESPN is calling Russell the Cubs best prospect. (including Bryant) Hard to argue it. When he promotes this team takes off.

Rusell's all around skill set is very impressive. Defensively, he profiles much higher than Bryant and you figure he can handle second, short or third. Still very interested to see how the Cubs continue to work on his defense with giving him time at second. Maybe they've changed their tune about Baez? His swing is certainly a volatile component and if he can't make enough contact...maybe he's better served to be a trade piece for pitching?

 

[Parade_Rain]

Rusell's all around skill set is very impressive. Defensively, he profiles much higher than Bryant and you figure he can handle second, short or third. Still very interested to see how the Cubs continue to work on his defense with giving him time at second. Maybe they've changed their tune about Baez? His swing is certainly a volatile component and if he can't make enough contact...maybe he's better served to be a trade piece for pitching?

Russell has a much smoother stroke. Moving Russell over to 2B tells me that Baez would be the one on the block and Castro is likely in the future plans of the Cubs much to the dismay of ESPN.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Russell has a much smoother stroke. Moving Russell over to 2B tells me that Baez would be the one on the block and Castro is likely in the future plans of the Cubs much to the dismay of ESPN.

I wouldn't read that much into it, I just think it's current situation. Baez needs to work on plate discipline and tweaking his swing just a bit and due to the unfortunate death in his family he hasn't even started that work at Iowa yet. I would say that if there's a need at 2B for whatever reason, Alcantara continues to struggle or La Stella has lingering injury issues, then Russell might be up sooner than expected. I think they'd like to see Baez turn things around and I think they would like Castro to continue to solidify his hold on SS for the long term. It's an everchanging game though and you never know.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Of course the Cubs want everything to come up roses with every player.

 

[CSF77]

Villanueva promoted to back fill Bryant's roster spot.

Russell 0-3 3 SO's. Valaika protecting him on the team. Swear that team lacks talent. Pure and simple now. AA has way more depth going on.

Wada pitched 4.2 IP not a bad start 1 ER 4 hits 2 BB 6 SO's. Dude has bad luck in S/T then dominates Iowa.

 

[CSF77]

WTF is up with Vogelbach?: 15 for 27. .556/.636/.704 Dude is ripping some AA pitchers apart.

Schwarber: .286/.474/.643
Almora: .206/.270/.265....oh humm.

 

[beckdawg]

WTF is up with Vogelbach?: 15 for 27. .556/.636/.704 Dude is ripping some AA pitchers apart.

Schwarber: .286/.474/.643
Almora: .206/.270/.265....oh humm.

Daytona is pretty hard to hit at. Vogelbach struggled there last year. Wasn't all that surprised. Tenn. is more neutral. Also, where you pulling Almora's numbers from? Combined 2014/15? Cuz he's hitting .259/.333/.333 this season. He was a year younger than Vogelbach last year as well.

 

[CSF77]

Daytona is pretty hard to hit at. Vogelbach struggled there last year. Wasn't all that surprised. Tenn. is more neutral.

He will always be Hendry's best pick of the draft IMO. That includes Shark and Cashner. Dan IMO will end up traded with Rizzo entrenched but with his approach I see him having a all star type career. Too bad he is limited on the D side because he would work here if there was a DH.

 

[TL1961]

There will , unfortunately, be a DH in the NL before too long.

 

[beckdawg]

There will , unfortunately, be a DH in the NL before too long.

Not sure I believe this. I honestly think the asymmetry of the leagues is a plus to the game not a negative. It'd be like having the NFC play with current NFL rules and giving the AFC the ability have one receiver moving forward at the snap a la AFL. More interesting game that way IMO.

 

[CSF77]

Not sure I believe this. I honestly think the asymmetry of the leagues is a plus to the game not a negative. It'd be like having the NFC play with current NFL rules and giving the AFC the ability have one receiver moving forward at the snap a la AFL. More interesting game that way IMO.

NL owners wont allow it. They would have to pay a guy 10-15 mil to sit on the bench and hit 4 times a game. That is as bad as paying Jackson to sit on pine in the pen.

 

[CSF77]

Rusell's all around skill set is very impressive. Defensively, he profiles much higher than Bryant and you figure he can handle second, short or third. Still very interested to see how the Cubs continue to work on his defense with giving him time at second. Maybe they've changed their tune about Baez? His swing is certainly a volatile component and if he can't make enough contact...maybe he's better served to be a trade piece for pitching?

My view point id Baez was inherited goods vs their pick. I see him traded as he is not making that choice for them with his struggles.

Of their picks Almora is their worst pick but they made up for it with trading for Russell who fell behind Almora in the draft. Just goes to show ya that no one is 100% right in scouting.


as of now I'm not feeling too wonderful with Lester as my #1. If they end up dumping some talent to get a true ace I'm not going to be mad at all.

It is just a matter of time where some team takes a dump on the season and will try to unload contract.

Maybe the sox would give up Sale with their crapper start?:thinking:

 

[Boobaby1]

If I am a Cubs fan, it would be hard pressed not to envision a line-up that included Soler, Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Vogelbach, Baez, and Castro in it.

With some good table setters, there might be a few home runs and offensive punch in that group.

 

[CSF77]

If I am a Cubs fan, it would be hard pressed not to envision a line-up that included Soler, Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Russell, Vogelbach, Baez, and Castro in it.

With some good table setters, there might be a few home runs and offensive punch in that group.

Team is better off with Fowler in CF and Montero catching.

I'm seeing:
LF: Schwarber
CF: Fowler
RF: Soler
3B: Bryant
SS: Castro
2B: Russell
1B: Rizzo
C: Montero

That team has strong balance.

 

[SilenceS]

Team is better off with Fowler in CF and Montero catching.

I'm seeing:
LF: Schwarber
CF: Fowler
RF: Soler
3B: Bryant
SS: Castro
2B: Russell
1B: Rizzo
C: Montero

That team has strong balance.

Montero is about to be 32. He is in his decline. I dont know why the Cubs trade for him still. He is owed 14 million next year and 14 million the year after that. He is in a sharp decline and will be 34 playing catcher. He better get on some Ped's.

 

[CSF77]

Montero is about to be 32. He is in his decline. I dont know why the Cubs trade for him still. He is owed 14 million next year and 14 million the year after that. He is in a sharp decline and will be 34 playing catcher. He better get on some Ped's.

Matters little. I'm on the side that feels that catcher needs to be a D position first. And calling games and helping the starters means more than getting some stats out of the 2.

Cubs should have enough punch going on by then.

 

[Boobaby1]

Team is better off with Fowler in CF and Montero catching.

I'm seeing:
LF: Schwarber
CF: Fowler
RF: Soler
3B: Bryant
SS: Castro
2B: Russell
1B: Rizzo
C: Montero

That team has strong balance.

What I was implying is that if Schwarber could stick at catcher, he replaces Montero. If the NL adopts the DH, Vogelbach could slide in. Your table setters could still be in CF, and Russell as well as Soler would still be young and one of those could be at the top too, but the power after that would be off the charts.

 

[CSF77]

Iowa: Rain out
Tenn: Almora 3 for 3, Schwarber 0 for 2 with a BB. Vogelbach 0 for 2 with a BB.

6th inning

On Schwarber that is a big if going on. I still feel that they need a vet's leadership behind the dish vs a rook learning the league. I'm all for him being a 3rd catcher and LF though. Let him learn for a few years behind some stong proven league catchers and see what happens down the road after he becomes more familiar with the league and scouting reports.

It is a learning curve for sure but catcher is more than just a guy catching a ball. I wouldn't short change the position.

If they could use Almora, Vogelbach and Baez to nab a top flight starter with some control going on I'm 100% behind it. I see all 3 as expendable at this point.

 

[Parade_Rain]

They just said on the broadcast tonight that Russell is getting fast-tracked.