Cubs offseason needs/ Talk

[CSF77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603125878573121536

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[SilenceS]

REPORT: Dansby Swanson Has Offers in Hand and the Cubs Do Kinda Sound Like the Favorites

Cubs have put an offer in Swanson hands supposedly and would be the favorites as of right now.

 

[CSF77]

REPORT: Dansby Swanson Has Offers in Hand and the Cubs Do Kinda Sound Like the Favorites

Cubs have put an offer in Swanson hands supposedly and would be the favorites as of right now.

Hope so shoot makes a solid off-season and opens up a Madgril trade

 

[knoxville7]

I will just say this.

Swanson makes up the middle 3 gold glove quality players. The fWAR on the D side alone should keep the Cubs in games.

What happens down the road really doesn't matter much. Prospects bust or move positions to get in. 2 years ago we were looking at Davis as a CF lock. Now a after thought to PCA.

So Jed should keep it gearing up for 2023. If pushing a GG quality backbone is what gets you wins then do it and not worry about 2024+

I gotta say I’ve really warmed up to your idea of Dansby if the years on the contract aren’t crazy

Cubs would have a legit top 3-5 defense up the middle at that point for next year.

If they can find some bullpen arms and a corner IF, they could be a team that contends for a playoff spot and wouldn’t have really prevented themselves from making a splash move next offseason

 

[Diehardfan]

You know, if people are looking to move up to .500 while you wait for the kids....it wouldn't take breaking the bank on the big names floating around out there to get in done. If they sign Swanson to something a little more in line to what he would give them....then you take a flyer out on Drury for third and JD Martinez to DH. Maybe grab young catcher like Felciano, who was highly rated at some point and is only 24. It wouldn't take much to fill the bullpen hole the way Ross handles them.

I still think Swanson is a level below the other guys but if he's willing to acknowledge that....the up the middle D would be greatly improved with Bellinger/Swanson/Hoerner which would also improve the pitching. BTW, I just read that Swanson's wife is a soccer player on the Chicago Red Stars...that might be a factor as well in the signing process.

Also, I would not move Madrigal....first given his injury history, they wouldn't get squat for him. Also Hoerner misses quite a bit of time
as well. Keep them both and maybe you get a full season of them if they play less.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

You know, if people are looking to move up to .500 while you wait for the kids....it wouldn't take breaking the bank on the big names floating around out there to get in done. If they sign Swanson to something a little more in line to what he would give them....then you take a flyer out on Drury for third and JD Martinez to DH. Maybe grab young catcher like Felciano, who was highly rated at some point and is only 24. It wouldn't take much to fill the bullpen hole the way Ross handles them.

I still think Swanson is a level below the other guys but if he's willing to acknowledge that....the up the middle D would be greatly improved with Bellinger/Swanson/Hoerner which would also improve the pitching. BTW, I just read that Swanson's wife is a soccer player on the Chicago Red Stars...that might be a factor as well in the signing process.

Also, I would not move Madrigal....first given his injury history, they wouldn't get squat for him. Also Hoerner misses quite a bit of time
as well. Keep them both and maybe you get a full season of them if they play less.

I'd like justin turner on a short contract at 3rd. I'd keep Madrigal and have him DH and give hoerner and swanson rest occasionally

 

[Diehardfan]

I'd like justin turner on a short contract at 3rd. I'd keep Madrigal and have him DH and give hoerner and swanson rest occasionally

I thought Dodgers gave him a 1 year deal...I thought I saw that.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I thought Dodgers gave him a 1 year deal...I thought I saw that.

His option was declined and is currently a FA. I'd love to have him for a year or 2.

Others I'd be interested in bringing in to DH/1b are conforto, carpenter and martinez like you mentioned. All would be short term options

 

[Diehardfan]

His option was declined and is currently a FA. I'd love to have him for a year or 2.

Others I'd be interested in bringing in to DH/1b are conforto, carpenter and martinez like you mentioned. All would be short term options

He's still probably still a better hitter than Drury but, damn....he's older than dirt for a baseball player. At his age, he would come cheap though.
I like Martinez as RH to Mervis LH at 1B....plus while it looks real promising, you still don't know if Mervis is the real deal or not. If he is the real deal, you can have Martinez DH.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

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[CSF77]

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Team has upticked after the GM hire. Jed just needs to do one thing. Pay for talent.

His replacement is in hand.

 

[CSF77]

He's still probably still a better hitter than Drury but, damn....he's older than dirt for a baseball player. At his age, he would come cheap though.
I like Martinez as RH to Mervis LH at 1B....plus while it looks real promising, you still don't know if Mervis is the real deal or not. If he is the real deal, you can have Martinez DH.

I prefer
LHP: Morel CF, Bellenger 1B, Madgril DH.
RHP: Bellenger CF, Mervis 1B, Madgril DH.

Cubs need a solid RH contact bat right now and have it in hand.

Hinges on Swanson. But rather resources go to a difference maker vs a add on

 

[Hawkeye OG]

Cubs agree to a one year $2.8M deal with Brad Boxberger.

The signing we've all been waiting for

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Cubs agree to a one year $2.8M deal with Brad Boxberger.

The signing we've all been waiting for

This is the big spending Ricketts and Kenney were talking about!

 

[Hawkeye OG]

We’re taking the fucking pennant

 

[beckdawg]

But Madrigal?

I mean look i get why people would be skeptical but I think he has talent. I think the issue is the guy was coming off a long injury and didn't have a normal spring training. Now i'm not saying he's destined to be a star but i think he can be a starting caliber player on a decent team. He's only had 552 PAs and he's still got a 95 wRC+ and 1.8 fWAR for roughly a season of work. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some growth out of a 26 year old who'd not even had more than 600 PAs. Let's say conservatively he gets to 100 or 105 wRC+ in his prime years... that's not a terrible hitter. And keep in mind cubs in any scenario aren't really ready to win a world series in the next year and probably not the year following. So if he can buy you a few years cheaply until the more highly touted prospects arrive I don't really see an issue. And best case he taps into his top 5 pick potential.

 

[CSF77]

I mean look i get why people would be skeptical but I think he has talent. I think the issue is the guy was coming off a long injury and didn't have a normal spring training. Now i'm not saying he's destined to be a star but i think he can be a starting caliber player on a decent team. He's only had 552 PAs and he's still got a 95 wRC+ and 1.8 fWAR for roughly a season of work. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some growth out of a 26 year old who'd not even had more than 600 PAs. Let's say conservatively he gets to 100 or 105 wRC+ in his prime years... that's not a terrible hitter. And keep in mind cubs in any scenario aren't really ready to win a world series in the next year and probably not the year following. So if he can buy you a few years cheaply until the more highly touted prospects arrive I don't really see an issue. And best case he taps into his top 5 pick potential.

As a pure hitter I am fine with him. Full time 2B? He is a bit of a risk.

I felt going in that Jed needed a LH hitting presence. He addressed that with Cody.

After that signing what was left?

Happ LF
Bellenger CF
Suzuki RF.

You might as well pencil in 3/4/5 there

3B Wisdom
SS Hoerner
2B Madgril
1B Mervis
C Gomez

Cubs lack a true lead off. Right now it is Hoerner 1 ? 2 and the rest filler

This is why Swanson needs to happen. It is pretty much do it or bust time.

Just Swanson alone:

Hoerner
Happ
Swanson
Bellenger
Suzuki
Mervis
Wisdom
Gomez
Madgril

Morel super sub.

 

[CSF77]

With the backlash and Upper management pretty much saying that the money is there. Jed need to make it happen or pack up

 

[CSF77]

Just for reference. As they stand. 55.5M under tax.

They could AAV Swanson at 24 and Rodon at 30.

So to be perfectly honest. There is no excuse.

In the past ownership has said that Tax has not been the issue with signing. It was funds available.

This year they are on record that Jed has the funds saved from 2022 at his access for aquiring talent.

There really is no excuse. The only reality is Jed is a small market minded guy and he is wrong for the job.

 

[Diehardfan]

I mean look i get why people would be skeptical but I think he has talent. I think the issue is the guy was coming off a long injury and didn't have a normal spring training. Now i'm not saying he's destined to be a star but i think he can be a starting caliber player on a decent team. He's only had 552 PAs and he's still got a 95 wRC+ and 1.8 fWAR for roughly a season of work. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some growth out of a 26 year old who'd not even had more than 600 PAs. Let's say conservatively he gets to 100 or 105 wRC+ in his prime years... that's not a terrible hitter. And keep in mind cubs in any scenario aren't really ready to win a world series in the next year and probably not the year following. So if he can buy you a few years cheaply until the more highly touted prospects arrive I don't really see an issue. And best case he taps into his top 5 pick potential.

I like him too. But the fact that he's only played 142 total games in three MLB seasons is a killer. Hurts the team in multiple ways....mostly because it slows his development and lowers his value.