Cubs sign draft pick Kris Bryant (For slot according to Sullivan)

[Willrust]

Cubs can go 5% over their pool without loosing a pick. If they had 10.5M to spend originally, they actually have just over 11M to spend with the 5% kicker. With the BA report that they are at 4.03M spent, that leaves them with just over 7M left to spend.

 

[dabynsky]

O I know what is wrong. Frazier, Garner, and Wilson arent bonuses. They signed there allotted slot value. The rest of the player Cubs signed have been signed for slot value. The rest of the bonuses are correct.

I am pretty sure Frazier signed for slot. I think Garner and Wilson did as well but I am not certain about it.

The 6.5 million left isn't factoring the 4.9% the Cubs can go over before losing a draft pick. The Cubs can still spend about 7 million without losing a draft pick. Again the question is not the Cubs being cheap and pocketing an extra million. It is about signing Bryant and getting Clifton and maybe another guy.

 

[chibears55]

I am pretty sure Frazier signed for slot. I think Garner and Wilson did as well but I am not certain about it.

The 6.5 million left isn't factoring the 4.9% the Cubs can go over before losing a draft pick. The Cubs can still spend about 7 million without losing a draft pick. Again the question is not the Cubs being cheap and pocketing an extra million. It is about signing Bryant and getting Clifton and maybe another guy.

forgot about the 5% they can go over.. I agree with the fact that their trying to be able to get both bryant and clifton along with possibly a 3rd player with what they have left and its a matter of is boras willing to come down with what they want or are the cubs going to have to make a decision as they get closer to july 12th as to either give in to bryant and lose one or two other picks or let bryant go and next year they will get the 3rd pick along with their own most likely top 5 pick.

 

[mountsalami]

With this great scouting and development team. Their energy should be spent ensuring that they get their top five picks signed and not fucking around with the rest of it until then.

It's not like this is some playoff team or warm weather climate that they can lure the kids into. It's going to cost them money, whether it's in the draft or in the free agent market.

If I was Bryant I wouldn't want to be stuck in the rut long term that Command Central has created for themselves here recently. Not a very appealing place to be right now.

 

[Willrust]

Mark Appel had direct ties to the Astros and it is likely that he allowed his desire to play in Houston dictate his agreeing to an underslot deal.

 

[SilenceS]

Mark Appel had direct ties to the Astros and it is likely that he allowed his desire to play in Houston dictate his agreeing to an underslot deal.

I highly, highly doubt it.

 

[The Bandit]

He'll sign, it'll come down the wire but the risk he is taking if he goes back doesn't outweigh the money he is gonna get now. So I think he'll sign.

 

[nwfisch]

If the Cubs are really dicking around on this over a 19th round pick.....

Hopefully they sign both, but Bryant needs to get in the fold ASAP.

 

[dabynsky]

If the Cubs are really dicking around on this over a 19th round pick.....

Hopefully they sign both, but Bryant needs to get in the fold ASAP.

Again the question is two weeks of Bryant worth not adding another legitimate prospect? The pick is the 12th rounder Trevor Clifton who is a legitimate prospect. OV idenitifed another player in the 24th round that the Cubs might be able to snag if Bryant is willing to follow the market. Either way, I've said all along I expect Cubs to spend the max and get Bryant. If that doesn't play out I will be upset, but until then I am just mildly annoyed that the Cubs couldn't get Bryant into pro ball sooner.

 

[patg006]

I suppose Gray didn't want to be a Cub either.

Not trying to be negative instantly, but it seriously wouldnt surprise me if the first offer was Bryant and Boras requesting over slot value and the cubs offering a hair more than Jonathan Gray's 4.8.

I can take it as half full that the cubs aren't dicking around until the last second to start talks.

If slightly over 7 million as Will insinuated is what it takes to not lose the 1st round pick next year. Do it. Take the 30K slap on the wrist or whatever it is and know you have your guy.

 

[KBisBack!]

Again the question is two weeks of Bryant worth not adding another legitimate prospect? The pick is the 12th rounder Trevor Clifton who is a legitimate prospect.

Again the question is overslotting a 12th round pick worth dicking around the #2 overall pick?

OV idenitifed another player in the 24th round that the Cubs might be able to snag if Bryant is willing to follow the market.

24th round?

We are really worried about losing a 24th round pick over the #2 overall pick?

Ridiculous.*




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[nwfisch]

Again the question is overslotting a 12th round pick worth dicking around the #2 overall pick?



24th round?

We are really worried about losing a 24th round pick over the #2 overall pick?

Ridiculous.*




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If Theo/ownership is worried about losing about a 12th round pick because they mismanaged their priorities throughout the signing process, well I have a hard time trusting they're doing things the right way.

 

[patg006]

Again the question is overslotting a 12th round pick worth dicking around the #2 overall pick?



24th round?

We are really worried about losing a 24th round pick over the #2 overall pick?

Ridiculous.*




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I think he is trying to pair a starting pitcher from the same college (SD University) as Bryant.

Having never paid attention to either or the team. They could be best buddies. They could also hate each other. We dont know.

Dont assume 2 guys from the same school are more likely to sign. I'm sure it happens, I'm also sure it is a coincidence....

 

[Heisenberg]

He better get signed.

 

[CSF77]

*still wondering why they gave the Mormon 2round cash when his career numbers were not proven. 1 mil on a kid on missionary work vs getting more AB's and info to work with is bad enough but then over slotting for it? If they lose Bryant over this mismanagement I give up. Nothing can save this train wreck of a franchise.

 

[Boobaby1]

*still wondering why they gave the Mormon 2round cash when his career numbers were not proven. 1 mil on a kid on missionary work vs getting more AB's and info to work with is bad enough but then over slotting for it? If they lose Bryant over this mismanagement I give up. Nothing can save this train wreck of a franchise.

Agreed. Watch him be the star of this years draft......LOL

Did anyone really think that this was going to be a smooth transition given their recent track record? I mean it's not like they have gotten what they wanted so far when they have wanted it.

Do I think he will sign? Sure!

Right now, this isn't Boras, it's the Cubs that are holding it up.

As said by others, it's frustrating that the top picks are locked up by other teams, and guess what teams isn't?

Yup, that's my Cubbies!

 

[dabynsky]

It is interesting to watch all of our own bias show through while interpreting this situation. The reality of the situation is that out of the 33 1st round draft picks 27 have signed right now. Of those 27 only two have gotten barely over slot, and the first one to do so wasn't until pick 19 (interestingly enough it is the same team that overrpaid in the first round twice in the Texas Rangers). Another 6 by my count received exactly slot, and the other 19 have signed for under slot. It seems looking at what other first rounders signed for it is Bryant being unreasonable demanding more than the market has shown when the player ahead of him signed for well below slot. But that is my bias in the matter I suppose.

Either way at the end of the day the Cubs are spending the maximum amount of money in their draft pool to get the most players in the system. If the costing of two weeks of development time is getting another prospect or two in the system than the Cubs are doing this right. If the costing of two weeks of development time is to save Ricketts a million dollars than I am with you with the pitchforks.

 

[Parade_Rain]

He's the Dick Howser winner. If he decides to go back another year, how could his stock rise? He's already the 2nd pick in the draft. He has no where to go but down. This is the year he needs to sign, even if it appears having another year means he thinks he is the one holding the best hand. He's not. The amount of money he would possibly gain next year is still less than the ROI on this years' money. I would be shocked if this doesn't get worked out. The Cubs and Bryant need each other in my view.

 

[Boobaby1]

It is interesting to watch all of our own basis show through while interpreting this situation. The reality of the situation is that out of the 33 1st round draft picks 27 have signed right now. Of those 27 only two have gotten barely over slot, and the first one to do so wasn't until pick 19 (interestingly enough it is the same team that overrpaid in the first round twice in the Texas Rangers). Another 6 by my count received exactly slot, and the other 19 have signed for under slot. It seems looking at what other first rounders signed for it is Bryant being unreasonable demanding more than the market has shown when the player ahead of him signed for well below slot. But that is my basis in the matter I suppose.

Either way at the end of the day the Cubs are spending the maximum amount of money in their draft pool to get the most players in the system. If the costing of two weeks of development time is getting another prospect or two in the system than the Cubs are doing this right. If the costing of two weeks of development time is to save Ricketts a million dollars than I am with you with the pitchforks.

If they sign Bryant, does anyone truly care?

Sure, it's nice to sign everyone, and under-slot for that matter.

The most important pick in the draft is signing Bryant and he stands to be the best pick to move the Cubs forward.

Everyone else falls way, way behind him in the pecking order.

 

[nwfisch]

Either way at the end of the day the Cubs are spending the maximum amount of money in their draft pool to get the most players in the system. If the costing of two weeks of development time is getting another prospect or two in the system than the Cubs are doing this right. If the costing of two weeks of development time is to save Ricketts a million dollars than I am with you with the pitchforks.

Wouldn't it make sense to start with Bryant?

The issue isn't with the spending the money. The issue is people are bemoaning the possible loss of a 12th round pick because the first round pick wants more money to play for a bad team, at a need position. Not every team is the same in regards to the Cubs needs and desires, and how much players want to play for them.