Cubs trade targets (The Athletic article)

[CSF77]

Wouldn't mind Greg Holland as the 8th inning guy.

 

[Diehardfan]

Soler hitting .244 with 27 HR for KC currently. Schwarber less HR and lower BA currently.

I think KC has figured out that to get the best out of him....you DH him. I think he's only played like 40 games in the field and DH'd about 60. I always liked him but he's just so damn brittle. They seem to be succeeding in minimizing his injury risk.

It's anybody's guess how he would have held up had the Cubs kept him.

 

[CSF77]

I think KC has figured out that to get the best out of him....you DH him. I think he's only played like 40 games in the field and DH'd about 60. I always liked him but he's just so damn brittle. They seem to be succeeding in minimizing his injury risk.

It's anybody's guess how he would have held up had the Cubs kept him.

Apr 30 AB
June 2 AB
Sept 60 AB.

Pretty standard.

 

[CSF77]

Cubs Shopping Martin Maldonado

The Cubs acquired catcher Martin Maldonado from the Royals just two weeks ago, though Chicago is already exploring the possibility …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

 

[CSF77]

I really think that they should go after Whit. Pay the cost.

From what I've seen Schwarber is not a lead off. He excells more in situations Like today. Happ just takes walks. I just don't see having the balanced approach as a hitter.

So there you go. Let KC push their wants. As far as a off limits. I could say Nico but IMO I don't think I can at this point. Nico is a year or more out and nothing is guaranteed in life. Whit can hit and there is control added. With Baez there is no MI spot available anyways.

Now it would be a limited exchange then. #50 prospect holds value. There would be no and for that deal.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

Wouldn't mind Greg Holland as the 8th inning guy.

The entire inning??!

 

[Rory Sparrow]

Its too bad that the Nats and the Giants have righted themselves and aren't offloading their pitching staff at the deadline. Sean Doolittle would have been the perfect fit for the Cubs...left handed, healthy, went through spring training already, and able to mentor Carl Edwards Jr. on his delivery. Will Smith of the Giants would have checked almost all the same boxes, with the exception of mentoring.

LOL at Holland "moving the needle" though. The baseball thoughts on this board can be found nowhere else in the universe.

 

[anotheridiot]

Wouldn't mind Greg Holland as the 8th inning guy.

Greg Holland will be out of baseball if they go to the three batter minimum per reliever.

 

[CSF77]

Derek Lane Holland is our LOOGY.

Gregory Scott Holland is a RH closer from AZL. Was the closer on KC before Wade was. Got injured then Wade took off.

It is fine. I get how you just are looking for anything to pick at and found a scud this time.

 

[CSF77]

But getting to needs for the Cubs.

They need a lead off. Whit is the ideal player.

They need a upgrade to Strop. Wade Davis would be the best option if they can offset cash. Greg Holland is a cheaper player to trade for.

Both jobs the Cubs do not have quality options.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

Derek Lane Holland is our LOOGY.

Gregory Scott Holland is a RH closer from AZL. Was the closer on KC before Wade was. Got injured then Wade took off.

It is fine. I get how you just are looking for anything to pick at and found a scud this time.

I guess you haven't been watching Greg Holland this year. I know who he is. Doesn't pitch a full inning. Advanced metrics aren't good at all. 21 walks and 5 HRs in 33 innings.

It is fine, though. Sorry for trying to talk baseball in this God forsaken place.

 

[TL1961]

But getting to needs for the Cubs.

They need a lead off. Whit is the ideal player.

They need a upgrade to Strop. Wade Davis would be the best option if they can offset cash. Greg Holland is a cheaper player to trade for.

Both jobs the Cubs do not have quality options.

They can’t offset nearly enough cash to even consider Wade Davis. I would welcome him back, but we didn’t retain him due to salary, and we have added Hamel and Kimbrel since.

Not going to even be on Theo’s radar.

 

[TL1961]

I guess you haven't been watching Greg Holland this year. I know who he is. Doesn't pitch a full inning. Advanced metrics aren't good at all. 21 walks and 5 HRs in 33 innings.

It is fine, though. Sorry for trying to talk baseball in this God forsaken place.

Holland has been bad last two years. Terrible for StL last year.

 

[anotheridiot]

Cubs Shopping Martin Maldonado

The Cubs acquired catcher Martin Maldonado from the Royals just two weeks ago, though Chicago is already exploring the possibility …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

He did not want to sign here in the off season because there would not be enough playing time. Dont know why they thought he would be satisfied now. Cant hit, cant run, I still say give him Darvish one game, that is the only way I see him sticking here. Maybe Yu will throw a no hitter and there will be a reason to keep him.

 

[CSF77]

Holland has been bad last two years. Terrible for StL last year.

You forgot how he went to Nat in a trade and posted a .84 ERA.

Greg is not with out warts. But he is cheap and a better option than Strop. I think that we all can agree with that part.

As far as Wade Davis goes. 18M/17/M/15M

There would have to be a contract offset involved.

I have suggested Morrow. This year he is owed 9M next year a 12 opt that can be dropped. That would offset salaries a bit. Basically the Cubs would get what they were supposed to pay for 9Mil this year. Col would get out of that contract with a opt that they can drop while shedding 1/2 of what is left this year.

As far as next year is concerned they are dropping Strop, Hamels, Cishek and Kintzler. The money will be there to justify having that much resource invested into the 8-9th.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

You forgot how he went to Nat in a trade and posted a .84 ERA.

Newsflash! Greg Holland...not very good!

The fact that you can jump back into this thread to take swipe at someone (again) is an affront to humanity. At least you realized which Holland is being spoken about. Can't wait to hear your Al Holland hot takes.

 

[CSF77]

Thinking on 2020's pen. If they did go with Davis and Kimbrel.

They would have to in-house it quite a bit.

I would push Chatwood back to the rotation. I think that he is past all of his control issues by now. Let his value tick up again.

Alzolay I would start as a 7th inning pitcher. His stuff is nasty and it would give him exposure to the majors for a year. His durability is still in question at this point to justify a rotation spot.

Ryan has proven capable of holding down Montgomery's old job.

The rest Theo tends to pick up depth in the off season. If they don't trade Tyson Miller or Mills they would make decent 2 inning arms. Meekes also seems ready for the next challenge.

 

[CSF77]

Newsflash! Greg Holland...not very good!

The fact that you can jump back into this thread to take swipe at someone (again) is an affront to humanity. At least you realized which Holland is being spoken about. Can't wait to hear your Al Holland hot takes.

Move along happy. Thought that you disliked coming here? That makes two of us.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

I would push Chatwood back to the rotation. I think that he is past all of his control issues by now. Let his value tick up again.

I see you are still obsessed with Tyler Chatwood being an effective rotational starter, with teams clamoring over each other to trade for him and get "value".

In my world, Chatwood went from being historically bad to being merely "terrible pitcher exiled to the bullpen with huge contract".

 

[CSF77]

I see you are still obsessed with Tyler Chatwood being an effective rotational starter, with teams clamoring over each other to trade for him and get "value".

In my world, Chatwood went from being historically bad to being merely "terrible pitcher exiled to the bullpen with huge contract".

And that is a fair assessment. You are not wrong with that opinion.

My opinion is they are going to lose Cole. They already have the investment into Chatwood and he has not sucked in his starts this year.

Alozay has been injured and needs exposure. I would play the safe card and stick with health and IP with my 5. Alzolay would still get needed experience in the pen and it is a safer bet that he would last the year off of the DL.

Then Mills and Miller as long arms that they can stretch out.

They would still would have to pick a LOOGY. Derrick Holland would be fine if he accepts his current situation and contract value. He seems quite good at it. If he wants to pursue a starting job good luck to him.