Darnell Wright--Colossal Bust

[remydat]

You call it how you see it and I respect that.

I am just blown away how we could have the most salary cap available during the offseason and have REGRESSED from a 3-14 team. Make it make sense! They gotta blow it up next year because if Poles has the top 2 picks again, he probably blows them as well.

Because we didnt spent it Duh! We have 110m in cap for next year.

Who should we have spent it on bearing ib mind that Wright grades out higher than all FA tackles Bears fans were interested in?

 

[remydat]

I'll say it again: He's Bobbie Massie. That's it. A serviceable pro who is going to hold his own most of the time but can still come out and have a disastrous penalty or missed assignment. Some of you think is something worth a top ten pick, I cannot fathom how or why. And while I receive no shortage of personal attacks, nobody has even tried to explain why that charecterization of Darnell Wright's profile is wrong or how a player of that level is worth taking in the top ten.

No we think he can be more than Bobbie Massie anf if he is then he is worth the pick. Your arrogance is in assuming everyome agrees with your assessment. We dont dumbass. That is the issue.

 

[Diehardfan]

A troll that lies, can't keep his facts straight, is wishy washy and not very bright. Hell, don't ban him....keep him. He's good for laughs and no one will take anything he says seriously anymore anyway.

 

[remydat]

And right now he's about as useful as tits on a bull. By the time the Bears are competing to a win a game against another basement dweller he'll look like the owner.

This is just dumb. He will likely be under 30 still.

Also he is quite useful as he limits any excuses someone might have about Fields not having weapons.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Because we didnt spent it Duh! We have 110m in cap for next year.

Who should we have spent it on bearing ib mind that Wright grades out higher than all FA tackles Bears fans were interested in?

He goes and makes his highest 2 paid FA signings off ball LB'ers. And they have had little to no impact. Partially because they have not played well but also because the Bears defensive line is horrible. We have 2 sacks in 4 games. With the exception of Ngakoue, all their signings on the D Line went to stopping the run. Yet they are still below average giving up over 115 yards per game on the ground.

Who are the best players that Poles has either drafted in the past 2 years that we can honestly say are impact players? Would we put Brisker there? Maybe. Gordon? Hard to say but he looks decent. Sanborn as a UDFA was a good signing. Johnson looks good as a backup RB. Yannick and Billings are ok. DJ Moore cost them a 1st round pick and is clearly their best player on either side of the ball. Point is, he has found a few luke warm players but mostly players that have not shown to be very impactful. And it clearly shows with how the team is playing. And you trust him with 2 top 10 draft picks next year?

 

[Enasic]

He goes and makes his highest 2 paid FA signings off ball LB'ers. And they have had little to no impact. Partially because they have not played well but also because the Bears defensive line is horrible. We have 2 sacks in 4 games. With the exception of Ngakoue, all their signings on the D Line went to stopping the run. Yet they are still below average giving up over 115 yards per game on the ground.

Who are the best players that Poles has either drafted in the past 2 years that we can honestly say are impact players? Would we put Brisker there? Maybe. Gordon? Hard to say but he looks decent. Sanborn as a UDFA was a good signing. Johnson looks good as a backup RB. Yannick and Billings are ok. DJ Moore cost them a 1st round pick and is clearly their best player on either side of the ball. Point is, he has found a few luke warm players but mostly players that have not shown to be very impactful. And it clearly shows with how the team is playing. And you trust him with 2 top 10 draft picks next year?

He’s had 1 1st round pick in that time. Also…it’s been 2 years. We honestly don’t have an idea of what these guys are going to turn into. I don’t know why people expect GMs to find and draft immediate all pros with 2nd round and later picks. Guys are talking like he’s been making selections for 4 years or something

 

[Toast88]

Great use of a top 10 pick, to get someone average.

It's like getting $100 for pizza and buying Domino's.

“I know you could’ve gotten Giordano’s, but Dominoes has a high floor, or something.”

 

[Toast88]

no its playing armchair GM, you assume if the bears drafted carter, he would have the same kind of success that he is having with the eagles...on the field, carter has a ton of talent around him and not to mention the eagles are 2-3 dlines deep that they rotate frequently where hes getting like 20-30 snaps a game which is probably what he had in college...off the field he has essentially georgia east over in philly with how many bulldogs they drafted so multiple support systems in place not to mention vets like cox, graham, reddick...it really was the perfect fit for him...now we'll never know, maybe he goes to any team and is a model citizen but when multiple teams take him off their draft board and the kid/agent has to call the eagles and convince them to draft him you know you didnt leave a good impression on teams. philly was in position to take a risk given the state of their roster, they could afford to be wrong and not miss a beat.

By this logic, the Bears should never acquire any players, since they’re not going to thrive here anyway.

 

[Toast88]

Because we didnt spent it Duh! We have 110m in cap for next year.

Who should we have spent it on bearing ib mind that Wright grades out higher than all FA tackles Bears fans were interested in?

So you expected the Bears to regress after adding DJ Moore, Justin Fields riding high on progress from late last year, the offense having another year under Luke Getsy, and using draft picks on guys Bears fans were all pretty sure were going to be good? And you expected that because they kept most of their money in their pocket?

I mean, I’m very much a realist who hasn’t liked Poles or Eberflus for a while now, and I was still expecting them to double their win total. I think this massive regression is extremely concerning, not something to be pushed aside as expected. It wasn’t expected.

 

[Montucky]

By this logic, the Bears should never acquire any players, since they’re not going to thrive here anyway.

Exactly.

If you are somebody who believes the Bears made the right decision to pass on Jalen Carter because the coaches couldn't coach him and the GM couldn't build around then you have made the most convincing case possible that everyone needs to be fired immediately.

 

[msadows]

Exactly.

If you are somebody who believes the Bears made the right decision to pass on Jalen Carter because the coaches couldn't coach him and the GM couldn't build around then you have made the most convincing case possible that everyone needs to be fired immediately.

I agree with you on this, but also think you are a braindead loser.

Can both be true?

 

[Chicago4Life]

By this logic, the Bears should never acquire any players, since they’re not going to thrive here anyway.

because every player has carter level issues coming into the draft? or because you disregard the red flags on carter and want to believe what you want. how many players do you know that had to call a nfl team during the draft to convince them to draft him?

Exactly.

If you are somebody who believes the Bears made the right decision to pass on Jalen Carter because the coaches couldn't coach him and the GM couldn't build around then you have made the most convincing case possible that everyone needs to be fired immediately.

where did i say the decision to pass on carter was because the coaches couldnt coach him and the GM couldnt build around?

 

[didshereallysaythat]

We are not drafting players to chaperone a field trip to Great America. You draft players who have talent and trust the coaches to develop them on and off the field.

 

[bamainatlanta]

We are not drafting players to chaperone a field trip to Great America. You draft players who have talent and trust the coaches to develop them on and off the field.

Well if Pete Carroll decided he didn’t want to draft him, that’s a big flag. He takes chances on players that most teams don’t. He had an odd answer as to why they went with Witherspoon when they still needed a player like Carter. He obviously didn’t trust the kid.

 

[jive]

He’s had 1 1st round pick in that time. Also…it’s been 2 years. We honestly don’t have an idea of what these guys are going to turn into. I don’t know why people expect GMs to find and draft immediate all pros with 2nd round and later picks.

Because it can happen.

The difference between Poles picks and that of his predecessors that his picks flash some talent and disappear, while other GMs have drafted guys that flashed talent throughout the season. These are some guys off the top of my head that were drafted in round 2 or later and were able to start in their first year and/or played at a top level by year 2.
Charles Tillman
Lance Briggs
Nathan Vasher
Mark Anderson
Devin Hester
Mike Brown
Matt Forte
Alshon Jefferey
Cody Whitehair
Jordan Howard
Eddie Jackson

 

[Enasic]

Because it can happen.

The difference between Poles picks and that of his predecessors that his picks flash some talent and disappear, while other GMs have drafted guys that flashed talent throughout the season. These are some guys off the top of my head that were drafted in round 2 or later and were able to start in their first year and/or played at a top level by year 2.
Charles Tillman
Lance Briggs
Nathan Vasher
Mark Anderson
Devin Hester
Mike Brown
Matt Forte
Alshon Jefferey
Cody Whitehair
Jordan Howard
Eddie Jackson

You’re also spanning like a decade worth of picks lol

Tillman was not looked at favorably with a large chunk of the fan base. Lot of fans wanted him gone early in his career. He didn’t really break out until much later than year 2. Very similar to Kyle Fuller in that regard

Vasher had a couple of solid seasons but was never anything special. Also had an elite DL and defense overall which helps any CB

Other than anderson’s rookie year, he was trash.

Cody Whitehair is…Cody whitehair. Decent pick

Jordan Howard ran behind a great OL for coach Fox who ran a ton.

I don’t think you can really compare 10 years worth of draft picks to 2 years worth of picks and only 4 games into year 2 at that. Gordon has been out. Brisker is banged up. The jury is still out on all these guys

 

[Montucky]

Well if Pete Carroll decided he didn’t want to draft him, that’s a big flag. He takes chances on players that most teams don’t. He had an odd answer as to why they went with Witherspoon when they still needed a player like Carter. He obviously didn’t trust the kid.

Probably didn't hurt that Devon Witherspoon is another near-lock to be an All-Pro.

 

[Montucky]

You’re also spanning like a decade worth of picks lol

Tillman was not looked at favorably with a large chunk of the fan base. Lot of fans wanted him gone early in his career. He didn’t really break out until much later than year 2. Very similar to Kyle Fuller in that regard

Vasher had a couple of solid seasons but was never anything special. Also had an elite DL and defense overall which helps any CB

Other than anderson’s rookie year, he was trash.

Cody Whitehair is…Cody whitehair. Decent pick

Jordan Howard ran behind a great OL for coach Fox who ran a ton.

I don’t think you can really compare 10 years worth of draft picks to 2 years worth of picks and only 4 games into year 2 at that. Gordon has been out. Brisker is banged up. The jury is still out on all these guys

Charles Tillman ripped that ball out of Randy Moss' hands in the endzone and everyone knew he was special. I still don't understand he spent so much of his career overlooked and why he doesn't get any Hall of Fame talk. He was the best player on that team most years.

 

[onebud34]

You’re also spanning like a decade worth of picks lol

Tillman was not looked at favorably with a large chunk of the fan base. Lot of fans wanted him gone early in his career. He didn’t really break out until much later than year 2. Very similar to Kyle Fuller in that regard

Vasher had a couple of solid seasons but was never anything special. Also had an elite DL and defense overall which helps any CB

Other than anderson’s rookie year, he was trash.

Cody Whitehair is…Cody whitehair. Decent pick

Jordan Howard ran behind a great OL for coach Fox who ran a ton.

I don’t think you can really compare 10 years worth of draft picks to 2 years worth of picks and only 4 games into year 2 at that. Gordon has been out. Brisker is banged up. The jury is still out on all these guys

Fans were wanting him switched to safety mid-career because they thought he was washed up

 

[Montucky]

Fans were wanting him switched to safety mid-career because they thought he was washed up

And if you listen to the fans you'll be sitting with them. Steve Smith certainly had Peanut's number, other than that the guy was pretty consistent throughout his career.