Derrick Rose: Youngest MVP Ever!

[houheffna]

Which will you celebrate more?

A Bulls title win or Miami?

All i see is you man crushing lebron like you're Delonte eyeing his mom.

I can say the same of you and Rose...I just call it like I see it...you are the fanboy, not me. You accused me of the same with Rondo. I just don't think every Bulls fan has to be down on other players to like their own. Nor do I fall in love with players that are replaceable and act as if they are not. I am a realist. And If I stand alone in that, then I will

Unlike you and others, I don't have to down Rose to compliment Lebron, its disingenuous, and its childish...again, grow up. I have yet to stump off the forum whining about who is a real fan, that was bitchassness at its finest...and it was over Derrick Rose. So who is crushing who?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Again with Durant...9 out of 10 shots are jumpshots...that is a documented fact. Posting is not prevalent in Durant's game enough to even bring up, its a minuscule detail.

Over James' career, he has been more efficient and dependable in the clutch than either Anthony or Durant. Kobe is almost Jordanesque in what he can do to close games, that is why I take him. I don't take other players over Lebron, Lebron's clutch numbers crush Wade's over the last 5 years too.

Your Marbury/Lebron stuff is off still, I know that wasn't about work ethic...but it was off. Lebron is a lot less selfish than Marbury was, they are nothing alike at all, comparing Lebron to Marbuy is an insult...

Fair enough. Marbury and James isn't a very good comparison. Shouting 'Marbury' is used too often and I could have done better

 

[Anytime23]

I remember seeing a stat not long ago that Anthony was statistically the most clutch player in the NBA but that was only when attempting a game winning or tying shot. IDK about 4th QTR scoring though

 

[Glide2keva]

I can say the same of you and Rose...I just call it like I see it...you are the fanboy, not me. You accused me of the same with Rondo. I just don't think every Bulls fan has to be down on other players to like their own. Nor do I fall in love with players that are replaceable and act as if they are not. I am a realist. And If I stand alone in that, then I will

Unlike you and others, I don't have to down Rose to compliment Lebron, its disingenuous, and its childish...again, grow up. I have yet to stump off the forum whining about who is a real fan, that was bitchassness at its finest...and it was over Derrick Rose. So who is crushing who?

So, you're not going to answer the question, just hurl more insults? Got it.

 

[houheffna]

I remember seeing a stat not long ago that Anthony was statistically the most clutch player in the NBA but that was only when attempting a game winning or tying shot. IDK about 4th QTR scoring though

He is this year, that is a limited sample though compared to overall clutch stats. But his shooting percentages in that scenario is supposedly off the charts this year.

 

[houheffna]

So, you're not going to answer the question, just hurl more insults? Got it.

Its a dumbass question...and it deserves an insult in reply...

 

[Anytime23]

He is this year, that is a limited sample though compared to overall clutch stats. But his shooting percentages in that scenario is supposedly off the charts this year.

Yeah it looked a good margin above the rest. I think they were talking about it during the Heats 5 game skid a couple weeks back.

 

[Glide2keva]

Its a dumbass question...and it deserves an insult in reply...

It's a simple question who are you pulling for? Miami or Chicago?

Or are you hedging your bets so if the Bulls don't make it, you still might have the heat. You sound like their biggest fan.

 

[houheffna]

It's a simple question who are you pulling for? Miami or Chicago?

Or are you hedging your bets so if the Bulls don't make it, you still might have the heat. You sound like their biggest fan.

I root for the Bulls to win, for the Celtics and the Heat to lose, and for you to get a clue...

 

[Glide2keva]

I root for the Bulls to win, for the Celtics and the Heat to lose, and for you to get a clue...

If that's the case, then why are you slurping lebron so hard?

Oh, you're "objective". I got it.

 

[houheffna]

If that's the case, then why are you slurping lebron so hard?

Oh, you're "objective". I got it.

I'm objective...when it comes to basketball you don't know shit, and you wouldn't know shit if you fell in it...that my friend, is objective thinking...free of charge...

 

[Glide2keva]

Well, fortunately for me, I couldn't give a shit less what you think of me.

You're nothing more than a blowhard and a bully who tries to insult people who don't agree with him. You talk all of this shit like you're some type of NBA annalist, yet no one is paying you. That doesn't stop you from acting like they are though.

You're a know it all that knows nothing and tries to tout his opinion as fact, as if you're some mighty basketball god or something.

You can respond to this and throw more insults, but just know I hadn't insulted you, until just now, and while it means nothing to you or to me for that matter. I just thought I would tell you about yourself.

Have a good day "Bulls fan"

 

[houheffna]

Well, fortunately for me, I couldn't give a shit less what you think of me.

You're nothing more than a blowhard and a bully who tries to insult people who don't agree with him. You talk all of this shit like you're some type of NBA annalist, yet no one is paying you. That doesn't stop you from acting like they are though.

You're a know it all that knows nothing and tries to tout his opinion as fact, as if you're some mighty basketball god or something.

You can respond to this and throw more insults, but just know I hadn't insulted you, until just now, and while it means nothing to you or to me for that matter. I just thought I would tell you about yourself.

Have a good day "Bulls fan"

You tout your opinions as fact too, except they're really just dumbass opinions. Saying that I am "slurping" Lebron is not an insult? Give me a break. Try not to be an idiot and you will get more respect, until then stay in your lane.

As far as bullying, I am far from a bully. I just don't let people disrespect me and get away with it. So like your assessment of NBA players, your assessment of me...is off, by a lot.

 

[aidenjustice]

Seems to me that there are people on this forum that might as well be coaches with all their brilliant knowledge in the game of basketball.

#1. Keep in mind that it's a forum. For Bulls fans. And it's very unlikely that anyone on here works in the Bulls front office. Just sayin'.

#2. Some people make a living by simply being contrarians. All they have to do is simply "DISAGREE" on any particular topic that seems to be buzzing in the world. (TV Journalists, Perez Hilton-esque bloggers, and the very recent sports know-it-alls)

So...what I'm trying to get at is, while these people generally like the sound of their own voice, they'll take any audience no matter how they get it, no matter how bizarre their polar opposite opinions are. And by replying to their nonsense, you're actually contributing to the the phony formula that validates their very existence.

Keep it humble.

 

[Glide2keva]

Seems to me that there are people on this forum that might as well be coaches with all their brilliant knowledge in the game of basketball.

#1. Keep in mind that it's a forum. For Bulls fans. And it's very unlikely that anyone on here works in the Bulls front office. Just sayin'.

#2. Some people make a living by simply being contrarians. All they have to do is simply "DISAGREE" on any particular topic that seems to be buzzing in the world. (TV Journalists, Perez Hilton-esque bloggers, and the very recent sports know-it-alls)

So...what I'm trying to get at is, while these people generally like the sound of their own voice, they'll take any audience no matter how they get it, no matter how bizarre their polar opposite opinions are. And by replying to their nonsense, you're actually contributing to the the phony formula that validates their very existence.

Keep it humble.

That's why I put him on ignore. I'm tired of his blowhard, know it all attitude. Makes this forum so much better to be a part of.

 

[Scoot26]

This argument is still going on?

 

[houheffna]

This argument is still going on?

No brother...I'm done...lol

"Better to be hated than to be invisible...." Jay-Z

 

[Gunzaan]

I have never heard a complaint about Lebron not being a good team player on the court until this losing streak happened. Lebron has always been a good team player, how do you think the Cavs won all of those games? He was just criticized this season for passing the ball in the clutch...though it was the right, and unselfish thing to do...

Let me first off state a few things. I've been trolling the White Sox/Bulls/Hawks boards for a while now, but decided to join and will finally start to participate. I know that I have zero reputation here, so that's okay if you want to falsely apply the 'newb' term to me. I don't know everything but I know a few things. Let me state a few things about this debate.

- I thank you guys for this thread. It is hilarious! While this houheffna guy or girl knows more then basic knowledge (and probably more) he/she ruins their entire argument by obviously being biased. Sure, a thread about MVP for Rose will be biased on a Bulls message board, but the blind LBJ love is hilarious. I have also seen him completely ignore commenting on intelligent posts that bring up great counter-points to his arguments, but he comments on everything else. Typical board-elitist behavior. Keep up the stellar work

- The overuse of 'truth' and 'facts' in this thread is awesome.

- I picked this quote by houheffna because it is one of the easier quotes of his to pick apart. You have never heard of Lebron not being a team player? I don't even need stats to point this out. Hello! Last years playoffs against the Celtics. He QUIT on his team. He gave up. He waved the white flag so he could take his talents to south beach.

- The MVP race is between D. Rose and D. Howard. If Dwight Howard maintains his pace, he will be only the 4th player in history to register a 20 point/10 rebound/60 FG% season. The other 3? Wilt, Kareem, and Shaq. D. Rose? If he stays on pace, only the 5th player to average 24 pts/8 Assts/4 rebounds per game. The others? Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, MJ, and your lover-boy, LBJ. (Of course, LBJ isn't doing that this year. In fact, his assists are down from his career average, which is kind of funny, since he is supposed to be Magic Johnson on his team full of all-stars). If you purely want to go off of stats, LBJ is doing something that numerous people have done, meanwhile, Rose and Howard are having historic seasons. Of course, you shouldn't purely go off of stats, you should look at leadership skills, team chemistry (probably similar to leadership skills), improvements, the teams final standings (probably shouldn't be considered but it is), and finishing games. I could argue you that Rose is better then LBJ on all of those accounts, but ESPECIALLy leadership and finishing games. It-isn't-even-close.

Anyways, hello to all of you, I'm a big White Sox, Bulls, and Hawks fan. Looking forward to the playoffs and some good discussions here... along with some humor by some of the posters

 

[Rush]

Welcome to the site man

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Welcome man. Some strong points being made there.