Duncan Keith Suspension Thread ***Keith Gets 5 Game Suspension***

[ClydeLee]

The retaliation on Cooke should be evidence to give Keith 3 games potentially.

I don't think Sedin's is just incidental from it being the follow through, The shoulder is lining up at him pretty bad.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

I'm not a fan of a cheap play like this one or the last.

If you want to get a guy back, score on the PP (if there is one) or run him cleanly. Give him something a little extra in front of the net or the corner (love tap to the back of the leg, facewash, whatever), I don't care. However, targeting the head just isn't right, even if in retaliation.

Well there was no PP in this case (sedin's hit on keith), and hey, even if there was- we know the Hawks wont net one on it :lol:

But whatever. I hear your point. I like hockey when it's a little over the edge. Keith isn't a danger or out of control on the ice. He knows what he's doing and taking a suspension at this point in the season is far from the worst thing that could happen. I'd go so far to call it a complete non issue. Keith gets some games off and the Hawks lock in a 6th seed? I don't think anybody will lose sleep over that.

 

[nwfisch]

Always in sports the person who retaliates gets the penalty.

Both were dirty hits.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Duncs lets the Nucks get under his skin.

 

[DMelt36]

extra security in the buildings haha!

5 extra refs plus some big body builders to pull players off each other from brawling.

but seriously it could indeed be one of the highest penalty min totals in the playoffs. Im sure any stupid play they will be quick to toss players out.

This has to be the hawks biggest rival and most hated team.

For games in Vancouver, I think the extra security should be outside the building.

 

[DMelt36]

I'm thinking it's two games for Keith, not too worried about it.

If you're going to cite the Cooke incident, keep in mind that Matt Cooke was in the middle of his prime as the biggest tool in the NHL when that happened. Cooke has calmed down, somewhat, since then.

I'm not worried about Duncs getting a reputation as a dirty player. Both of his questionable plays were retaliation, not just him being an asshole in general. His biggest (and only) adjustment needs to be controlling his emotions when others take a run at him. That's it.

 

[HawkWriter]

Fraser: Keith demonstrated no intent on playing the puck

Kerry Fraser gives his opinion on the hits

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Minimum of 5 games? :lol:

Ok Kerry.

 

[nwfisch]

Fraser: Keith demonstrated no intent on playing the puck

Kerry Fraser gives his opinion on the hits

And Sedin didn't want to play the puck either.

I do think Keith and Sedin deserve suspensions.

I'm glad the Blackhawks built a lead for a playoff spot. Losing Keith for even a game is a scary thought.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Jesse Rogers ‏ @ESPNChiHawks
Source: Keith hearing will be by phone at 1 pm tomorrow which means suspension cant be more than 5 games

 

[Captain Iago]

A costly blow?

the canucks fucking cry to much

Yeah, that's crying. So the hell what IF Keith said that or not. Doesn't mean shit.

Yeah, he'll be suspended. At first I was thinking his lack of a criminal history may allow him to sidestep a suspension, but no way. He's going to get a few games.

The silver lining? He rests up for the playoffs.

 

[Captain Iago]

extra security in the buildings haha!

5 extra refs plus some big body builders to pull players off each other from brawling.

but seriously it could indeed be one of the highest penalty min totals in the playoffs. Im sure any stupid play they will be quick to toss players out.

This has to be the hawks biggest rival and most hated team.

But they didn't really brawl like they did a few years ago. If I were a Canucks fan, I'm disappointed in the lack of response from my team, to be honest (but that's me, I was pissed when most of our guys were spectators to Thornton *****-slapping the shit out of Toews). I mean they respond with face-washes? Really? Or a sneaky Burrows knee to the groin?

 

[Captain Iago]

Minimum of 5 games? :lol:

Ok Kerry.

Kerry is pissed any time the focus is on something other than his flow.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

But they didn't really brawl like they did a few years ago. If I were a Canucks fan, I'm disappointed in the lack of response from my team, to be honest (but that's me, I was pissed when most of our guys were spectators to Thornton *****-slapping the shit out of Toews). I mean they respond with face-washes? Really? Or a sneaky Burrows knee to the groin?

Yup. I was furious when Toews got worked over. Good news is that the Hawks have seemingly turned a corner on being pussies. The last bunch of games, I keep finding myself saying the Blackhawks are standing up to them! If I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!

And I was really pissed during that entire scrum last night. Pushing, face washing, helmet ripping... and it resulted in 14 pims each for Burrows and Keith. Separate from the pile and drop the mitts. Things get closer to being settled with an actual fight than they ever do with stupid pushing matches AND you get less penalty time! Win/win.

(and holy smokes did I want to see Kassian and Seabrook square off)

Kerry is pissed any time the focus is on something other than his flow.

Can't blame him for that :nope:

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Duncan on Daniel: A costly blow?

But the Canucks are thinking otherwise. Henrik Sedin told Vancouver media that Keith insinuated that he would get Daniel back for that hit.

“It’s one of those hits where things were said before from a certain guy and he did what he wanted to and that’s too bad. But again, they are tough team over there and we’re the diving bunch so I guess there’s not much to say about that.

“I got a lot of respect for a lot of guys on their team. There’ve been things said from their room before, but not from him,” Henrik said of Keith to NHL.com. “He’s always been good, but I don’t know if it was too [many] emotions playing against us or what it was. Again, it’s too bad. I had a lot of respect for him.”

Asked about Keith’s alleged remarks to Daniel, Canucks defenseman Kevin Bieksa said, “Yeah, I'm not surprised. I didn’t hear it, obviously, but I’ve heard him say things before. Again, the league will do their investigation and they'll deal with it.”

1- Sedin playing the sympathy card with the "we're the diving bunch" :lol:
2- Someone on Vancouver doesn't respect Keith anymore. That's a heartbreaker.
3- You mean to tell me guys talk on the ice? No way.

I love this stuff. The NHL can say they want cheap shots and dirty play out of the game (and on the surface, of course they do), but it's a fact that stuff like this is what makes great, entertaining rivalries.

Injuries and shitty play is bad, but it makes for the most compelling rivalries which in turns makes the most compelling hockey.

 

[southern_cross_116]

Duncan on Daniel: A costly blow?



1- Sedin playing the sympathy card with the "we're the diving bunch" :lol:
2- Someone on Vancouver doesn't respect Keith anymore. That's a heartbreaker.
3- You mean to tell me guys talk on the ice? No way.

I love this stuff. The NHL can say they want cheap shots and dirty play out of the game (and on the surface, of course they do), but it's a fact that stuff like this is what makes great, entertaining rivalries.

Injuries and shitty play is bad, but it makes for the most compelling rivalries which in turns makes the most compelling hockey.

I read an article with those same quotes "I have a lot of respect for their players, but not (fill in the blank) any more..."

And I am 99% certain it has come from these same clowns - you know I think they both have inferiority complexes due to the fact that Pavel Bure is probably the best forward ever to wear a Canuck jersey - neither of the twins could ever carry his jockstrap.

 

[DMelt36]

I read an article with those same quotes "I have a lot of respect for their players, but not (fill in the blank) any more..."

And I am 99% certain it has come from these same clowns - you know I think they both have inferiority complexes due to the fact that Pavel Bure is probably the best forward ever to wear a Canuck jersey - neither of the twins could ever carry his jockstrap.

Or because they're a combined -24 in their postseason careers ....

 

[icehogfan08]

Via CSN

When Blackhawks defenseman Duncan Keith elbowed Vancouver forward Daniel Sedin in the head on Wednesday night, it seemed that a talk with Brendan Shanahan was likely not far behind.

It looks like that talk will be sometime Friday. But exactly how this conversation will go down is suddenly up for debate.

Several Canadian outlets reported early Thursday that Keith would have a phone hearing with Shanahan around 1 p.m. CT on Friday to determine his punishment for that elbow. But late Thursday night, Nick Kypreos of Sportsnet Cable Television in Canada reported that the NHL asked Keith to waive his right to an in-person hearing for the hit.

If Keith’s hearing is over the phone, it means he would be suspended five or fewer games. But if it’s an in-person hearing, the punishment will be more than five games.

Why this situation suddenly changed is unknown. Keith has never been suspended in his career, but the NHL is trying to crack down on blows to the head. The Canucks were irate that the elbow drew only a two-minute minor penalty in Wednesday’s game. Daniel’s brother, Henrik, insinuated that Keith told Daniel he would get him back for an earlier hit in the game – Daniel had a high shoulder hit on Keith prior to Keith’s elbow.

As for Daniel Sedin, the Vancouver Sun reports that he flew to Dallas with the team after the game on Wednesday but traveled back to Vancouver Thursday for further evaluation. Coach Alain Vigneault told Vancouver media he didn’t know what Sedin’s status was.

There will be some resolution to all of this on Friday. Either way, the Blackhawks will likely be missing their top defenseman for a bit during this stretch run.

 

[tbo41fan]

Great...now they want an in-person hearing


if Doan only gets 3 games being a repeat offender, and Keith gets equal that or more, that is Special person

 

[icehogfan08]

Another reading

Konroyd: What goes around comes around
So much to talk about after a thrilling 2-1 overtime win by the Blackhawks, so I'll stick to what everyone is talking about after Chicago's gritty win against their most hated rival.* We know hockey is a game that is both graceful and violent. We saw both of these things Wednesday night.

The violence is supposed to be kept in check with the referees on the ice. And both Dan O'Halloran and Francois St. Laurent did a great job of this last night. But hockey is a sport that needs not only rule-keepers from the outside looking in, they need some of the kids on the playground keeping track too.

Golf does this to some extent where players will call penalties on themselves when they know they have crossed the line on a rule. Although hockey players would never call a penalty on themselves, they will police actions that go undetected by the refs.

Case in point: Six minutes prior to elbowing Daniel Sedin in the jaw, Duncan Keith was blindsided with a shoulder to the jaw by the same man he later targeted. This shoulder to the face didn't get noticed by the officials on the ice -- heck it didn't get noticed by me who was watching closely and adding color commentary to Pat Foley's call.

But Duncan Keith sure noticed, and he decided to call a penalty. He saved number 22's number in the memory vault and the next opportunity he had (roughly six minutes later) exacted his revenge.

I don't like calling this "prison rules" or "law of the jungle" but what it demonstrates in no uncertain terms is if you slap my face and nobody punishes you, get ready to have yours slapped back.

Since I'm on a roll, let me take the jungle analogy one step further. A monkey walks up to a lion when no one is looking and pulls his tail. Guess what? The monkey just pulled his last tail. That's why, to some extent, players have to police themselves because the referees can't be watching everyone and everything over an entire ice surface.

I'm not going to speculate as to whether Duncan Keith gets suspended or not. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.

What I do know is that Daniel Sedin will think twice about hitting a guy in the head expecting nothing in return. That's hockey.