Duncan Keith Suspension Thread ***Keith Gets 5 Game Suspension***

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I'm really hoping this is just getting overblown. Keith is definitely worthy of a suspension, but anything more than 3 games is completely unfounded and a major transition from what the league has been doing all season long.

It's completely fucking ridiculous if they decide to hammer down on one guy 75 games into a season, especially a guy that has a clean record.

For comparison, I present Pavel Kubina's elbow on Dave Bolland last year. Kubina sat three games for this. Only difference between this and Keith's play is the possible premeditation of Keith's hit. I don't believe Kubina had any such motive, other than being a piece of shit. Bolland missed a little over a month with the concussion suffered on this play.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGLoXMmwzBU]Pavel Kubina's Elbow on David Bolland - March 9th 2011 (HD) - YouTube[/ame]

If Keith gets more than three, it's simply unjust.
 

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Sedin and Keith should both get a suspension. Not sure the length, but they should match. The only real difference between the two is that Keith didn't get knocked out of the game.
 

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I'm really hoping this is just getting overblown. Keith is definitely worthy of a suspension, but anything more than 3 games is completely unfounded and a major transition from what the league has been doing all season long.

It's completely fucking ridiculous if they decide to hammer down on one guy 75 games into a season, especially a guy that has a clean record.

For comparison, I present Pavel Kubina's elbow on Dave Bolland last year. Kubina sat three games for this. Only difference between this and Keith's play is the possible premeditation of Keith's hit. I don't believe Kubina had any such motive, other than being a piece of shit. Bolland missed a little over a month with the concussion suffered on this play.

Pavel Kubina's Elbow on David Bolland - March 9th 2011 (HD) - YouTube

If Keith gets more than three, it's simply unjust.

That was LAST year...which is a huge difference. Shanaban has been cracking down this year in a huge way. If Kubina sat 3 games for that, expect Keith to sit more this year for a similar play.
 

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Great...now they want an in-person hearing


if Doan only gets 3 games being a repeat offender, and Keith gets equal that or more, that is Special person

Important to note the injury on the play. Sedin supposedly out atleast 2 weeks.

While I don't like the injury angle, just because a different player on the same play might not have been injured - it is basically just luck. Shanahan definitely sites an injury as a reason to suspend a player more.
 

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That was LAST year...which is a huge difference. Shanaban has been cracking down this year in a huge way. If Kubina sat 3 games for that, expect Keith to sit more this year for a similar play.

he's been cracking down in an inconsistent way. started out strong (wiz preseason 8 gamer) and has eased up since. a players star level is also still a point of contention.

I still don't see how keith gets more than doan just got. doan is a repeat offender who was also just recently fined.
 

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he's been cracking down in an inconsistent way. started out strong (wiz preseason 8 gamer) and has eased up since. a players star level is also still a point of contention.

I still don't see how keith gets more than doan just got. doan is a repeat offender who was also just recently fined.

I agree that he has been inconsistent, but as of late he has picked it up again.

I have the over under at 3.5 right now. I think 3 would be justified because Doan just got 3 and he is a repeat offender but had no injury while Keith is not a repeat offender but there is an injury.

The fact that all of a sudden it could be an in person kinda scares me. I don't think Doan's was revenge, and while you can't say for certain that Keith's was...it doesn't look good.
 

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From what I'm reading the nhlpa has to approve the switch from phone hearing to in person hearing
 

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Strongest suspension I can imagine is keith sitting for the rest of the regular season.

I say that because if he somehow misses playoff time, the disciplinary system is more screwed than I can comprehend.
 

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Strongest suspension I can imagine is keith sitting for the rest of the regular season.

I say that because if he somehow misses playoff time, the disciplinary system is more screwed than I can comprehend.

Supposedly, and I do mean supposedly because I am trying to run down a credible source, the NHL called up the refs to ask about this supposed threat that Keith made to Sedin. The refs then confirmed the threat. If this is true, doesn't help Keith's case one bit.

I realize "threats" are made all the time in the NHL, but if there was a threat, then it certainly seems that Keith carried it out which is going to show some pretty bad intent.
 

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that is so stupid its incredible

a- its legitimately nothing more than the nhl literally acting on the complaints of the teammates of an injured player. GREAT PRECEDENT to set there

b- if the refs are confirming this shit, THEY take full responsibility for this whole thing. they didn't penalize sedin for his hit. strike 1. they didn't do anything when they heard keith making threats. strike 2. keith hits sedin after all that and he gets just 2 minutes? strike 3.

c- counting an injury against keith when the injury is unknown. utter horse shit. the uncertainty of concussions makes the whole thing stink really really bad.
 

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$5 says Sedin plays the game after Keith's suspension is announced

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Wow. The NHL really is a joke.

Phone hearing.

Oh wait we want you to come in person for a hearing, but you don't have to, you can stick with a phone hearing, which means a reduction in suspension.

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Wow. The NHL really is a joke.

Phone hearing.

Oh wait we want you to come in person for a hearing, but you don't have to, you can stick with a phone hearing, which means a reduction in suspension.

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No it doesn't. The player always has the right to waive their in person hearing and do it over the phone instead. Keith waived his in person hearing but can still get more than 5 games.
 

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No it doesn't. The player always has the right to waive their in person hearing and do it over the phone instead. Keith waived his in person hearing but can still get more than 5 games.
Why would the NHL tell Keith its a phone hearing, and then offer an in-person hearing with the potential for a longer suspension?

Makes no sense.
 
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