Fields: Lost his Balls???

[SugarWalls]

1st - He wasnt the only one. Just the most obvious. The OP is also suggesting the coaching staff is trying change him an take away his greatest strength.

2nd - Yes. He is going through progressions and not throwing to open guys and checking down instead. JT higjlights a few of these plays.

3rd - I dont disagree but the premise of the thread is speculating the coached are coaching him in a way to remove his strengths.

Pretty sure the premise of the thread is that the bears want fields to run less, and this is potentially evident as they called a whopping 0 designed runs.

I guess if you desire to speculate on someone else’s speculation then carry on! Nothing to see here

 

[cameronkrazie86]

This is a hilariously stupid comment.

Unsurprising given who it came from.

 

[remydat]

Getsy said he wanted him to manage the game. Reports from camp said there was a lack of downfield passing when a lot of the plays are predetermined.

The player who was known for taking deep shots and avoiding the checkdown is doing the opposite.

This is what the Bears get for hiring the nice church going kumbaya cover 2 Lovie Smith knockoff because if George loves one thing, its completely overcorrecting from the last mistake.

2024 will be new QB.
2025 will be new OC.
2026 will be new HC(probably Colt McCoy)

and on and on goes the circle of Bears ineptitude.

It is the same coaching staff that had him throwing downfield last year. Managing the game is taking what the D gives you which both Flus and Getsy have said.

The issue is the D gave him some guys open downfield and he did not take it. There is no offense designed to throe tp checkdowns all game.

Your point would be valid if guys were not open downfield but they were. Hence why Flus said they need to take more shots downfield after he watched the tape.

Flus and Getsy have been pretty consistent on this. They want to be an explosive offense and take shots downfield while also ensure drive are sustained by taking what the D gives you if they take away the deep stuff. What the tape shows is at times the deep stuff was not taken away but Fields still checked down.

 

[remydat]

Pretty sure the premise of the thread is that the bears want fields to run less, and this is potentially evident as they called a whopping 0 designed runs.

I guess if you desire to speculate on someone else’s speculation then carry on! Nothing to see here

Umm no. I said what the OP actually said.

https://x.com/butkusstats/status/1701952146097201493?s=46

Sounds like the coaching staff is hell bent on changing him as a player by removing his greatest strengths. Discuss cordially.

The OP clearly links to a tweet about ADOT. So the OP is saying his strength last year ie high ADOT is being taken away as he had the lowest ADOT on Sunday. So I am not speculating. It is quite clear if you actually read the OP.

And my point is I dont think they are teaching to checkdown when guys are clearly open downfield.

 

[Anytime23]

It is the same coaching staff that had him throwing downfield last year. Managing the game is taking what the D gives you which both Flus and Getsy have said.

The issue is the D gave him some guys open downfield and he did not take it. There is no offense designed to throe tp checkdowns all game.

You point would be valid if guys were not open downfield but they were. Hence why Flus said they need to take more shots downfield after he watched the tape.

Believing anything these dogshit coaches say ?

 

[remydat]

Believing anything these dogshit coaches say ?

You started off your previous post by saying "Getsy said he wanted him to manage the game." So are we only allowed to reference or believe what they said when it suits your argument?

 

[Anytime23]

You started off your previous post by saying "Getsy said he wanted him to manage the game." So are we only allowed to reference or believe what they said when it suits your argument?

What he said was backed by action in game and backed by reports coming out of camp. Fields history of how he prefers to play does not add up with what we're seeing. Please know where and when you're being lied to.

 

[remydat]

What he said was backed by action in game and backed by reports coming out of camp. Fields history of how he prefers to play does not add up with what we're seeing. Please know where and when you're being lied to.

Or as I said it could be Fields overcompensating and trying too hard to focus on checking down.

We simply dont know which it is.

 

[nc0gnet0]

This is hilarious, when all of CCS was ecstatic after the first pre-season game, and I brought up the fact that Fields was still taking too long to throw the ball, and his ADOT was a concern, everybody said I was crazy and that didn't matter.

And now?

 

[run and shoot]

This is hilarious, when all of CCS was ecstatic after the first pre-season game, and I brought up the fact that Fields was still taking too long to throw the ball, and his ADOT was a concern, everybody said I was crazy and that didn't matter.

And now?

You failed to bring up pass pro.

 

[run and shoot]

Dont give a shit about the Steeles game.

I already said it is fine criticizing play design. What is not fine is pretending Fields is being told to checkdown when guys are open downfield.

If you watch the full video JT makes it clear that Fields missed guys open dowm field. He calls them turn downs.

You always want to excuse everything Fields does wrong. The play calling and design was suspect. That is no excuse foe Fields to miss guys who were wide open. JT had the objectivity to point out both. You dont.

I viewed the whole JT vid

"You always want to excuse everything Fields does wrong."

Over and over I've said JF is a young developing Qb. That's the truth.


"That is no excuse foe Fields to miss guys who were wide open. JT had the objectivity to point out both. You dont."

Wrong....in the past you say JF holds the ball to long. The video shows otherwise and you're mad about it.
Now in the GB game JF is checking down. JF was following Getsy's "horizontal game plan". That's the objective truth

 

[pablovi]

https://x.com/butkusstats/status/1701952146097201493?s=46

Sounds like the coaching staff is hell bent on changing him as a player by removing his greatest strengths. Discuss cordially.

Well, his speed won’t last that long and he can get injured easily, so he does need to learn how to throw from the pocket or with mobility but without taking off. If he’s to be a franchise QB.

 

[Urlhacker]

https://x.com/butkusstats/status/1701952146097201493?s=46

Sounds like the coaching staff is hell bent on changing him as a player by removing his greatest strengths. Discuss cordially.

Chicago. Where offensive players go to perish.

 

[remydat]

I viewed the whole JT vid

"You always want to excuse everything Fields does wrong."

Over and over I've said JF is a young developing Qb. That's the truth.


"That is no excuse foe Fields to miss guys who were wide open. JT had the objectivity to point out both. You dont."

Wrong....in the past you say JF holds the ball to long. The video shows otherwise and you're mad about it.
Now in the GB game JF is checking down. JF was following Getsy's "horizontal game plan". That's the objective truth

Saying he is a young developing QB is you trying to excuse him.

And no JT makes it clear that Fields failed to throw to open guys and checked down instead.

Absolutely no one had claimed he should check down when guys are open. You are being dense.

 

[zabavka]

Lack of Pass pro....please stop avoiding it. Please stop avoiding the Bad route design as shown by former NFL Qb Sullivan in the vid above.

If you have near 3 seconds, the 5th highest in the league so far this season, you actually have pass pro.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[run and shoot]

I viewed the whole JT vid

"You always want to excuse everything Fields does wrong."

Over and over I've said JF is a young developing Qb. That's the truth.


"That is no excuse foe Fields to miss guys who were wide open. JT had the objectivity to point out both. You dont."

Wrong....in the past you say JF holds the ball to long. The video shows otherwise and you're mad about it.
Now in the GB game JF is checking down. JF was following Getsy's "horizontal game plan". That's the objective truth

Saying he is a young developing QB is you trying to excuse him.

And no JT makes it clear that Fields failed to throw to open guys and checked down instead.

Absolutely no one had claimed he should check down when guys are open. You are being dense.

"Saying he is a young developing QB is you trying to excuse him."

It's the truth. And it has nothing to do with your projection of "excuse"

"Absolutely no one had claimed he should check down when guys are open."

JF was following Getsy's "horizontal game plan". Stop avoiding this >>>>>"horizontal game plan".

 

[run and shoot]

run and shoot said:

Lack of Pass pro....please stop avoiding it. Please stop avoiding the Bad route design as shown by former NFL Qb Sullivan in the vid above.

If you have near 3 seconds, the 5th highest in the league so far this season, you actually have pass pro.

What the hell are you talking about?

That adot stuff doesn't take into account having to scramble behind the LOS after being flushed outta pocket. I'll double check
I see u avoided talking about JT's observation of Bad route design

 

[remydat]

"Saying he is a young developing QB is you trying to excuse him."

It's the truth. And it has nothing to do with your projection of "excuse"

"Absolutely no one had claimed he should check down when guys are open."

JF was following Getsy's "horizontal game plan". Stop avoiding this >>>>>"horizontal game plan".

It is also the truth that Fields failed to throw to guys open down the field.

Getsy's horizontal gameplan had guys open running horizontal routes down the field but Fields did not throw to them. That's the truth.

 

[Anytime23]

If you have near 3 seconds, the 5th highest in the league so far this season, you actually have pass pro.

What the hell are you talking about?

Its wild that some of you watched the game and actually believe these horse shit time to throw stats and think its a pass pro stat and not a when the QB decides to throw the ball stat.

 

[mecha]

Its wild that some of you watched the game and actually believe these horse shit time to throw stats and think its a pass pro stat and not a when the QB decides to throw the ball stat.

@zabavka was touched inappropriately by something one of us said last year and has committed to just choosing the opposite viewpoint because he thinks it hurts us back.

see also: the rest of the dipshit commission headed up by dickless pancake nipple cuck @DanielCCSBears

I wish you would take me off ignore and try talking your usual nonsense to me like you do everyone else. I don't argue about stats and shitty takes, you won't even be able to pretend you won.