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The real plan is to clone Anthony Harris and sign 5 of him.
The real plan is to clone Anthony Harris and sign 5 of him.
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Seems the Eagles fear of being stuck with him at $25M or having to make huge cuts to get under the cap ended up being more leverage for Foles than some thought. I tried to tell them, but you can only lead a horse to water so many times beforelooking a gift horse in the mouth.
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Big Leverage Nick going to be a FA.
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What are you talking about? You'd pass on a Suggs or Wake to help us win a in Superbowl in 2019 because it might cost us a 4th round compensatory pick in 2020? I think you're losing perspective, Windy.
Hunt was the guy, but Pace just needs to sign the next best FA option. And draft one too. Howard, Cohen and a draft will only be about $3mil. Howard may go for a pick yet.
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I was about to say what happened to his thread last week?
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What is the next best RB? The entire point of the Hunt signing was that he made the minimum.
I would be fine with signing Suggs or Wake, I would prefer to sign Amos or Callahan with that money. They will play significantly more snaps than Suggs or Wake.
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hunt was A guy, he wasnt going to be the best RB in FA, thats bell...the only reason hunt was the guy was he had no leverage in asking for money which would have made him a perfect fit for a team that is lacking money.
i highly doubt suggs leaves the ravens, they have like ~50 mill or more in space and he is undoubtedly the lifeblood of that defense...wake imo is in the twilight of his career, unless he's willing to take the vet minimum or close to it i'd pass.
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I checked out some of the usual suspects, and for Nagy's offense, they should be looking at Tevin Coleman, Spencer Ware and TJ Yeldon, they would all be much more impactful than Howard, and this offense really needs it. I'm no expert, I'm sure they're are others at various $ amounts.
We just heard, and we know, Bears are looking at RBs in the draft. Go BPA, but good chance Bears nab a fitting draft RB. But we're only starting at 3rd Rd, so who knows. Can't count it as the solution. We need a good KR anyway.
Howard is gone next year (maybe traded this year), and Cohen cannot rush the middle... So it's right time for the Bears to sign a replacement (Coleman/Ware/Yeldon/etc). We don't have a lot of money, but I say RB is a big big priority, get who you can, this is SB contention time.
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Rory and FT claimed Foles had no leverage, FT used his mod powers to get the last word and close the thread, only for it to be revealed that Foles apparently had enough leverage that the Eagles ultimately decided not to franchise him. The funniest part about it was Rory and FT suggesting the Eagles could just franchise him and carry him as a backup all year at like 25 million.
http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/...-expected-to-franchise-trade-Nick-Foles/page6
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HA HA HA! This is the opposite of reality. Foles becoming a FA was the most obvious outcome, which made the 'arguments' put forth by you and iueyedoc even more absurd in retrospect. Not sure what was "revealed".
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Someone (s) are making too much out of Foles not getting franchise tagged. No one should ever pay a back up franchise money. Wentz is the future for the eaglets, let Foles get a starting gig somewhere, he probably deserves another shot at it.
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Lol, you were claiming the Eagles could afford to tag Foles when everyone else said they were only doing so to trade him.
Guess this option was obvious to everyone else but you. Nice try Rory!
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$20M was the option year...WHICH THE EAGLES ACTUALLY TRIED TO INVOKE! You are still lost.
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Yawn, the post of FT's that you thanked and responded to said if they were willing to sign him at 20 million, what is 5 million extra for the franchise tag. We were talking about the franchise tag and you and FT's point was suggesting they would be content having Foles play on the option or franchise tag. It was pointed out to you both that the option and franchise tag would only be offered as a precursor to a trade and not because they intended to actually keep him at that price. Here was the latter half of the exchange.
Remydat said:
The above exchange is clearly you suggesting the Eagles will clear cap space as a means to sign Foles. You were clearly making the case they could just carry Foles for a year while Wentz was on his rookie contract. Pretending that it was obvious to you that they would not extend the tag is disingenuous.
Like I said, nice try Rory.
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It's unlikely Suggs leaves, as Ravens are a contending team. Wake is unlikely to leave, but might be chasing a SB ring.
Windy quoted both Suggs and Wake in the $5m/yr range. (Windy, how'd you come to those estimates?) Wake avg $8m last two years, but had 5.5 sacks in about 30 snaps/game last year, I would guess he's trending down in money, and now signing 1 yr at time.
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Yeah I doubt Suggs leaves. Wake, I am not sure he is even worth the money at this point. I would much rather get someone younger who may have untapped potential.
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I'm in favor of taking a flyer on younger talented passrusher who may just need a change of location, except that, because I think our Superbowl window is now, I think it's smarter to sign a more for sure producer, and hopefully also adds to the winning character of the team... like a Suggs or Wake.
Because Mack is our only OLB who is getting sacks/FF. Floyd and Irving (much less so) started getting some pressure at the end of the year, but Irving isn't there yet, and Floyd has had injury issues. Fitts has shown nothing yet. That 3rd OLB needs to be a more sure passrushing producer than a take-a-flyer. Hopefully we can afford and entice a player here.
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Well I think the issue is that it is not a for sure producer as you are paying for past production not necessarily future production. Wake is 37 and coming off a season of 6 sacks. Is he still a for sure producer or was last year the beginning of his decline.
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As I'm using the words and concept of 'more for sure production', you can't get any better than last year, and a peek at the year before that for the trend. That's the best data, bar none. And that's what I'm going by. It goes without saying things can change. And duly noted his age puts him in likely trend down.
Those 6 sacks were in limited 3rd down snaps; he was actually quite productive per snap (QB hit/Sack per snap 5.3%). He and Suggs are ideal, if the price is $5m/1yr range. Players we should pursue.
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