#FreeBobby

[dreadpirateroberts]

Bobby was mocked as a lottery pick and Snell a 2nd round pick until the day of the draft iirc plus they are totally different with their approach. its hard not seeing Bobby alteast being a decent rotational player in this league.

anything further than that he'll have to prove

What a bad pick Snell turned out to be.

 

[knoxville7]

I will just say this: Thanks for actually breaking down specifics and running through your thought process. We may disagree on it, but at least you explained yourself and not only acknowledged by question, but answered it. There's some people on here that could learn from this.

word, im with you on that!

 

[Raskolnikov]

So...the lack of comments after Portis got his chance...it's deafening I hear pins dropping. What's up? No comment on the same 3 for 9 as Niko without the rebounds?

I'm not trying to dog Portis, I just think some of ya all are silly talking. Getting to see Portis a bit will be a nice Christmas present, but I still think you should have acknowledged he finally played yesterday and underwhelmed. Patience, he has some developing to do and it's far more likely Niko breaks out with some extra time and has a big scoring month soon.

 

[Enasic]

So...the lack of comments after Portis got his chance...it's deafening I hear pins dropping. What's up? No comment on the same 3 for 9 as Niko without the rebounds?

I'm not trying to dog Portis, I just think some of ya all are silly talking. Getting to see Portis a bit will be a nice Christmas present, but I still think you should have acknowledged he finally played yesterday and underwhelmed. Patience, he has some developing to do and it's far more likely Niko breaks out with some extra time and has a big scoring month soon.

Lol are you serious? It was his 2nd start in limited minutes and as you said, he played similar to niko lol...the only difference is bobby is 20 with virtually no experience and niko is 24 in his 2nd year in the league with professional experience overseas. No one said bobby is going to take the league by storm from the get go. What a pathetic attempt man. Well done. Take a bow, bud!

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

So...the lack of comments after Portis got his chance...it's deafening I hear pins dropping. What's up? No comment on the same 3 for 9 as Niko without the rebounds?

I'm not trying to dog Portis, I just think some of ya all are silly talking. Getting to see Portis a bit will be a nice Christmas present, but I still think you should have acknowledged he finally played yesterday and underwhelmed. Patience, he has some developing to do and it's far more likely Niko breaks out with some extra time and has a big scoring month soon.

I'm not exactly hearing much of a peep from you after the last couple of games.

 

[bulls787]

Portis could be a potential changer for this team. Somebody that can roll with Butler and Rose. And he plays an old school way...he would destruct others' front court players. His confidence level is crazy. Reminds me of Taj. Niko is not that great (maybe offensively in certain situations), and wouldn't benefit this team compared to other players. Snell and Portis must play more with Douggy lurking.

 

[bulls787]

I couldn't agree more. Bobby has confidence and an old school way. Dude can terrorize other front court players. He oozes basketball. He needs to play more and the Noah injury might be a blessing

 

[bulls787]

Dude, Niko has been jacking up 3's like he thinks he is the specialist. I don't think you understand the importance of a PF presence with Rose and Butler on the team....and GASOL. Mike is more efficient and smarter.

 

[bulls787]

I would rather have that anthony mason presence....Mr. I can play down low, defend, and shoot a J. Mr. I'm not scared of you. Niko is not that

 

[The Hawk]

Dude, Niko has been jacking up 3's like he thinks he is the specialist. I don't think you understand the importance of a PF presence with Rose and Butler on the team....and GASOL. Mike is more efficient and smarter.

I just think that they are misusing Niko's talents byt the way they position him on the court. WHere he is almost only gives him a three point shot attempt.

 

[The Hawk]

I like thus far how Portis has looked. But this also means that they have too many bigs and not enough smalls so a trade should be in their future. Gibson is having a solid year. Gasol has value also. Noah was playing well before he suffered his injury. I don't want them to trade Mirotic because I think his future is still going to be a good one.

Snell is just not a good player and unless he is part of a deal will be no better than an 8-10 player off of the bench.

 

[Enasic]

I just think that they are misusing Niko's talents byt the way they position him on the court. WHere he is almost only gives him a three point shot attempt.

That's where they should use him. If guys actually watch niko, most of his big scoring games are when he hits multiple 3 PT shots. Usually all are of the spot up variety. His strength is that of a spot up shooter (not 5 feet back from the line though) and posting on the baseline against smaller defenders. He has the ability to go back door and play the high low game. Ball handiing is his weakness. The less dribbling he does, the better. He literally palms the ball every single time he brings the ball up court. Not even a little bit but full on plain as day palms it. It's so ridiculous it's amazing it doesn't get called at least once a game.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Mirotic has been pretty underwhelming. My not so bold prediction is that Portis will be given more minutes by the end of the season.

Mirotic's only real strength is at PF. He shoots at too low of a three-point percentage with not enough ball handling skills to be of much use at the 3. And doesn't have the quickness to defend perimeter players. Is he a serviceable player? Yes. But he jacks up ridiculous three point attempts. He is nice with that little shot fake that draws a lot of fouls and semi decent at quickly getting to the rim IF he has a free lane towards the basket and finishing. I'd like to see him go to work in the post more. Mix of his offense a little. Establish himself as a post up threat and get more from mid-range.

He's playing dumb basketball right now.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Not so bold statement: Niko's 3pt percentage would be way higher if he didn't take so many dumb 3s from 30 ft.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Not so bold statement: Niko's 3pt percentage would be way higher if he didn't take so many dumb 3s from 30 ft.

The dude averages only 3.9 2PA's per game while he also averages 5.0 3PA's per game. He averages 100pts/100poss shooting two's versus 102pts/100poss shooting three's. But he averages closer to 150pts/100poss on possessions where he shoots free throws. If he would mix up his game a little more, he could be a lot better as a basketball player. Right now, he is very undisciplined and the coaching staff needs to focus on balance with him.

 

[clonetrooper264]

The dude averages only 3.9 2PA's per game while he also averages 5.0 3PA's per game. He averages 100pts/100poss shooting two's versus 102pts/100poss shooting three's. But he averages closer to 150pts/100poss on possessions where he shoots free throws. If he would mix up his game a little more, he could be a lot better as a basketball player. Right now, he is very undisciplined and the coaching staff needs to focus on balance with him.

Perhaps. I think the free reign to let it fly from 3 early on in the season poisoned his mind. It'd be one thing if he could shoot like Steph Curry, but apparently only Omri Casspi can try to emulate such feats.

 

[Enasic]

I still say the scouting report on his pump fake forced him to shy away from it has pretty much exposed why he drew so many fouls. I'm not sure that strategy will work nearly as well as it did last season. At this point, he's not very good at getting to the line, a solid 3 pt shooter, and decent in the post. Average defender/rebounder. I still don't see anything that he does very well nor does he bring many intangibles. He's 24 and he played professional basketball before he came into the league. I think it's pretty safe to say, he's close to what he'll always be. He might improve in some areas and overall, but I would wager he stays relatively close to where he is and will always be a serviceable player capable of hot stretches.

 

[The Hawk]

He isn't anywhere near Niko. OMG, you guys haven't even seen him against NBA defenses yet with a full starting 5.

Just be patient until we make the big moves this roster needs to make involving our front court. McDermott, Snell, Dunleavy, Niko, Portis, Noah, Gasol, Gibson Lots of big decisions to be made in order to have the best 6 players at 3 positions we can have. This group doesn't fit together so well but sorting out the first 7 is hard enough without boggling our minds worrying about how Portis fits the puzzle.

Patience my friends.

It is a nice problem anytime that you have an abundance of talent at a couple of important positions that a lot of teams need and the emergence of Portis just makes that situation better. I am impressed by Portis as a talent. I also loved what Gibson talked about regarding that "rookies must prove themselves" and how then he went out and explained how Portis has been schooled by Gibson, Noah, and Gasol. When you think about it that is three different types of big men both offensively and defensively and all were/are good examples of good NBA talent.

 

[The Hawk]

I am saying that Niko needs to be developed and he is the last person to steal minutes from. The Last. You take minutes from Gasol and you presever old legs for playoffs. You take minutes from Gibson or Noah and you hurt the defense and continuity of the bench you may be trying to build, as well as team toughness, and you undermine the trade value you are trying to build with them precisely so you can open a spot for Portis.

Its a deep front court, relax and let it sort itself out through trade or injury. Meanwhile Portis if fine getting stronger and hungrier on the bench and learning from some impressive professionalism ahead of him on depth chart.

Relax. Its not time yet, but we are all excited for when it is.

I think that when Noah comes back, they need to make a deal if at all possible. Having six viable big men is way too top heavy. Noah, Gibson, Mirotic, Portis, Gasol, and McDermott is too many on a team which needs a shooting guard, a point guard, and a small forward. I think that Dunleavy cannot be counted on, Snell is pretty much worthless as is Hinrich. Make a deal or two after Noah gets back.

 

[The Hawk]

You guys are severely underestimating Nikos rebounding. His offensive struggles are system, and shot selection oriented. Both would be corrected with good coaching. In the same breath you seem to be overestimating the rebounding of Portis.

I agree entirely. And again, I say that the shots that Niko takes are pretty much decided by where they put him on offense namely at the top of the key. This happens because of where the remaining two bigs are stationed. Personally, I'd never have Niko and Gasol together because Gasol takes a lot of air out of the ball. Let Noah play the low post and Niko on the high post where he can use his talents to take the ball to the hole which he cannot do with Gasol clogging things up.