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Zero sense? He's clearly talking Jon up, "She underestimated you. Here you stand, King of the North, last best hope against the coming storm."
"You have many enemies, my King, but I swear to you I'm not one of them."
What more do you want? You want Rhaegar to reveal himself to his son right then? Fuck that! That would take all the fun out of the final twist.
You and every other GOT fan were made to believe LF wanted the throne. That was just meant to set you up for the twist in the end. His focus was always much more on the Starks than the throne.
Does he lie? Jon is not a bastard and as far as any other living person knows, would be the heir to the throne. Rhaegar is not known by any to be alive and is believed dead by all. Maybe he will only ever reveal himself to Jon and Daenerys. They will let the Kingdoms rule themselves and there will be no need for an heir to the throne anymore anyway.
LF in response to Varys, "The realm. Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agree to tell each other over and over, until we forget that it's a lie."
"There is no realm. The realm is an illusion. Nothing ever benefits 'the realm,' it simply benefits someone clever enough to use the illusion for his/her own ends."
For Rhaegar, it was never about the realm, always about his son, the prince that was promised. He sets him up to save the world just as the prophecy foretold. Bonus? The Targaryen family lives on with Jon and Dany and their offspring.
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In the books, LF's journey is explained in quite a bit more detail. As I said, if it doesn't work in the books, it won't work in the show. Unless you prescribe to the theory the show's ending will be quite different than that of books.
I am fine with that, however, he is now dead, not a faceless man.
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Now, this is an interesting theory.
Now, this is an interesting theory.
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And he still has it as well........
And he still has it as well........
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All irrelevant to the known fact that Rhaegar is/was LF and Arya has his dagger.
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Is Arya no one? Is she not helping family? She’s been doing nothing but take vengeance on enemies of her family since leaving Braavos.
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Seems pretty obvious she took what she wanted from their training, and is using it purely for her own purposes... namely vengeance
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As did Rhaegar who also had the pressing need to forever hide his true identity.
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So you think he would hide instead of help Jon against the WW's, regardless of the price he had to pay? Highly doubtful, if all of this behind the scenes stuff was for Jon. Makes zero sense. But I guess he knew Mel was going to resurrect him as well? Jon has had way too many near death, or even total death experiences for this to make any sense. The simple truth is Jon would have been much better off without LF, so the whole LF is Rhaegar thing is laughable.
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Your thinking is bizarre. Why would you expect Rhaegar to have special powers that would allow him to foresee his son’s death or be able to resurrect him? He’s just an ordinary man. He’s not helping miraculously from beyond the grave. He never died. Has no special powers. Certainly has no cause to believe his son would not survive to fulfill the prophecy and defeat NK. Azor was literally “reborn”. Jon Snow was literally “reborn”. It’s all good.
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Bah, in two months you will be singing a different tune, just like you are now with your arya killed Cersei with Jamies face BS............
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Nah, this is the tune I'm gonna sing til the end and most of you aren't gonna like it because I'm a really bad singer.
Why do you ask why Rhaegar hides? Has there been any Targaryen friendly peeps sitting on the throne since his supposed death? His need to be a faceless man was not based on him choosing their ways. It was based on the fact if he was ever found to be alive, he'd have a life expectancy of about 2 minutes.
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Except Bravos hates targaryen's and the faceless men live in Bravos, a city founded by slaves. So the chance of a faceless man recruiting Rhagaer is about zero x zero.
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Not that it matters but what if Rhaegar started the whole faceless man thing?
If Rhaegar was Syrio and Jaqen as well, it would only make sense as to why they took such interest in Arya as she was said to be just like her Aunt Lyanna. Perhaps we don't see Little Finger again as the big twist is revealed. Maybe Rhaegar appears as Syrio or Jaqen before he reveals himself. But it will also be revealed he was LF. Chaos is a ladder. But who was that chaos meant to benefit? Didn't end up benefiting LF so much did it? He died or, at least, someone wearing his face did. All that chaos was meant to benefit another, how else could a bastard rise to be King, make allies out of enemies and lead the war against the NK and his army of the dead?
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Skip to the part in the books. The faceless men were former slaves in Valyria. So would they be against the targaryans based on that?
Skip to the part in the books. The faceless men were former slaves in Valyria. So would they be against the targaryans based on that?
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I think they wiped out Valyria, didn't they. That's what the old man told Arya in Braavos anyway. Still, if you're truly no one, you would have no prejudices or lament about the past.
What's more interesting is to look at the correlation between faceless men and the NK and white walkers. The faceless men preach death is a gift. The NK and white walkers take that gift away. Again, points to why Rhaegar would have keen interest in them. He was fixated on that prophecy of the chosen one who would end the NK. Surely the Faceless men would want an end put to the NK and wights as well.
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It benefited LF quite well, for quite sometime. Yes he met his end, but that was do to a wild-card he could have never imagined, Bran. And it's not just one faceless man, it would have taken two, the impostor (in your theory) that Arya executed would also have to have been a Faceless man.
That's a stretch, as LF had nothing to do with any of that, he was actually trying to get Sansa to be KoTN, not Jon. And Jon's rise to power is no more remarkable than Dany's, (his own sister in your theory). Are we to believe (again in your theory) he was largely responsible for that as well?
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yes
read this part, it all but dismiss's the Rhaegor theory.
"Killing for personal gain or out of anger or hate are forbidden to Faceless Men."
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Eh... if Jaqen and Little Finger were the same person.... serving on the council in King's Landing while also on guard duty at Harrenhal?