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What a bloated monstrosity this has become
LOL, the bloat is nothing compared to the books. It would have take 10 more years to introduce all the characters if they went 100% true adaptation.
 

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I love how some of you get so bitter about a fictional universe. You going to pull an Ncog and bring this up 2 years from now too?


LOL, in all fairness, it has been two years since the show was last on, and we had a debate going on at that time that no one could prove who's opinion was right at the time until the show began again. The show began again, and now the debate continues. You just don't like the fact you were wrong.

That's not to say you were wrong on everything, it's just this one matter. I happen to agree with some of your other opinions, so don't make it out like I have this huge vendetta against you.

And there is more to this than meets the eye, I was using it into a segue.
 

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LOL, the bloat is nothing compared to the books. It would have take 10 more years to introduce all the characters if they went 100% true adaptation.

Yeah I know. I read them and his latest (which reads like a genealogy report).
 

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I am an Ncog...it's a reference to my screen name (which is phonetic for incogneto btw).

Thanks for clearing that up. It still makes no sense to me in the remy context, and I'm fine with that.
 

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So it's predictions you want?

Assuming the answer was yes..........................

The pettiness of the Northern Lords was a bit of manufactured drama. Not saying there wouldn't be some grumblings about her presence, but it portrayed to be more significant than it realistically should have been, given the circumstances. Hell, the Boltons and the Lannisters have done far more damage to the North in the last 3 years than the Targaryans have done over the last three hundred.

But we need a little fake drama for the upcoming scene in the next episode.


This is a call back to the fake drama we seen last season with the Arya vs Sansa tension that culminated in the execution of littlefinger. Only this time Jamies trial ( not sure it is a trial but lacks better definition) will lead to a big Kumbaya moment. A common enemy, the Lannisters, hated equally by Dany and the North. And yet jamie will walk out of it unscathed, and vindicated for the killing of Aery's, which I believe the reasons why might come to light in this town hall gathering. Dany will show she is just by forgiving Jamie for killing her father (remember, she already knows that the mad King was about to blow up all of KL). This will go a long way towards easing the tensions. The other thing will be the arrival of Tormund telling the North the WW's are about 12 hours away, and the Last Hearth and the Umbers have been slaughtered.

Considering that the WW's are have already left last hearth, and are now marching towards Winterfell, that puts them about 3-4 days out. Bran was right, there is no time for this shit. The really interesting thing is Tormund, Edd, Beric are behind the WW's and have to yet beat them to WF. And why did Edd go to last hearth, he actually went out of his way to go there, assuming he was heading to WF.
 
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Assuming the answer was yes..........................

The pettiness of the Northern Lords was a bit of manufactured drama. Not saying there wouldn't be some grumblings about her presence, but it portrayed to be more significant that it realistically should have been, given the circumstances. Hell, the Boltons and the Lannisters have done far more damage to the North in the last 3 years than the Targaryans have done over the last three hundred.

But we need a little fake drama for the upcoming scene in the next episode.


This is a call back to the fake drama we seen last season with the Arya vs Sansa tension that culminated in the execution of littlefinger. Only this time Jamies trial ( not sure it is a trial but lacks better definition) will lead to a big Kumbaya moment. A common enemy, the Lannisters, hated equally by Dany and the North. And yet jamie will walk out of it unscathed, and vindicated for the killing of Aery's, which I believe the reasons why might come to light in this town hall gathering. Dany will show she is just by forgiving Jamie for killing his father (remember, she already knows that the mad King was about to blow up all of KL). This will go a long way towards easing the tensions. The other thing will be the arrival of Tormund telling the North the WW's are about 12 hours away, and the Last Hearth and the Umbers have been slaughtered.

Considering that the WW's are have already left last hearth, and are now marching towards Winterfell, that puts them about 3-4 days out. Bran was right, there is no time for this shit. The really interesting thing is Tormund, Edd, Beric are behind the WW's and have to yet beat them to WF. And why did Edd go to last hearth, he actually went out of his way to go there, assuming he was heading to WF.


It is interesting to see Jorah now has heartsbane, Sam must have given it to him.
 

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One part I don’t get is how did Arya know John got stabbed in the heart? Did I miss something?
 

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Well, no, for 8,000 years he has been dormant. he hasn't been roaming around looking for the wall, or a way to get past it. His recent awakening was spurred on by a recent event, be it the comet, Bran being born, or something else is unknown. This has been correlated (his awakening) by the Wildlings. Now, I don't know if he was really truly dormant, or just happy to stay in the far North, away from all manor of men, but his activity in the land of men North of the wall is a recent event, and it happened well before he touched bran.
Yeah see as a viewer, I agree... how could you not... we've seen the Night King and all he can do and the horde he is bringing to their door.

They have not seen it, only heard it, and they are stupid feudal peasants.

They don't grasp that they face extinction or even that they truly face the greatest threat possible.

This is a fundamental human problem.... we see it in our modern humans with regards to climate change lol

I know you think they should be this monolithic unified North that says "**** everything, we gotta fight the Night King" but they aren't....

Your expectations of human beings, especially feudal peasants circa 800-1200 is wildly unrealistic.

Put yourself in the shoes of a Northern peasant who cannot read, never ventures more than a mile or so from his home, and just generally hates anything disturbing his life. Winter is truly coming and you are trying to figure out how to survive it.... have enough food/shelter for you and your family. You heard those Lord fucktards decided on yet another fucking King in the North.... this Jon Snow, he will lead you to whatever.... blah blah you heard it before with dumbass Robb. Oh and now he shows up with a bunch of foreign troops and a foreign Queen....

You don't really know or understand the threat, you are a dumb fucking peasant who will continue to be a dumb fucking peasant until the ice zombies show up.

We can't get people on the same page in a day and age where we can reach a good 90% of people inside of 30 minutes via various digital communication forms if we have enough status/power.... now imagine trying to get feudal peasants on the same page across a giant landmass when they can't read or reason beyond the level of a child most of the time.
People are always gonna underestimate the severity of the oncoming storm. While many might believe Jon now, they still haven't seen for themselves. When they do, they will shut their whiny yaps and get behind him just for protection if nothing else.
 

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He found his way when he got a dragon. Without the dragon how does he take down the wall? Guess dragon fire beat the magic of the wall
He could go around it had it not been protected by magic all those years. It's not the capture of the dragon that got him going. It's that damn Bran. And really, if one wanted to, there is cause to believe Bran purposely aided the NK. Bran basically set Jon up by sending notice to Dragonstone of NK's exact whereabouts. It's as if NK manipulated the whole situation. Let Bran give his whereabouts to Jon and then Dany comes to the rescue with the dragons just to make it all that much easier.

Of course can point to the terrible advice from Tyrion to go beyond the wall and bring a wight back to prove it all to Cersei as if that ***** could ever be trusted anyway. He has given nothing but bad advice to Dany. I can easily see him be called out for that and punished to death for the betrayal. I just wonder if it will be actual betrayal on his part or just made to look that way. Either way, think the funny little man dies in the end.
Well, no, for 8,000 years he has been dormant. he hasn't been roaming around looking for the wall, or a way to get past it. His recent awakening was spurred on by a recent event, be it the comet, Bran being born, or something else is unknown. This has been correlated (his awakening) by the Wildlings. Now, I don't know if he was really truly dormant, or just happy to stay in the far North, away from all manor of men, but his activity in the land of men North of the wall is a recent event, and it happened well before he touched bran.
Was he dormant or just held off by the wall and the magic? We'd have to know exactly what happened when the Dead first fought the Living. Was NK pushed back and then the wall quickly put up and magic created to keep him back for good or was there an agreement between the 2 sides that was broken when Little Sam wasn't handed over to the NK as he was meant to be?
 

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LOL, in all fairness, it has been two years since the show was last on, and we had a debate going on at that time that no one could prove who's opinion was right at the time until the show began again. The show began again, and now the debate continues. You just don't like the fact you were wrong.

That's not to say you were wrong on everything, it's just this one matter. I happen to agree with some of your other opinions, so don't make it out like I have this huge vendetta against you.

And there is more to this than meets the eye, I was using it into a segue.

Your opinion hasn't been proven right. I dont recall ever claiming that Jamie would not feature in the end game. I recall saying his doing so is not redemption to me.

Although quite frankly I didnt spend the past 2 years holding onto this so perhaps I am mistaken. Perhaps you should go find the posts that support your claim that I said something that has been proven wrong.
 

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Was he dormant or just held off by the wall and the magic? We'd have to know exactly what happened when the Dead first fought the Living. Was NK pushed back and then the wall quickly put up and magic created to keep him back for good or was there an agreement between the 2 sides that was broken when Little Sam wasn't handed over to the NK as he was meant to be?

Dormant might not have been the best of words, and it took hundreds of years to complete and thousands to reach it's current height. My take that the Nk was pushed back, and it took him this long to rebuild his army.
 

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Your opinion hasn't been proven right. I dont recall ever claiming that Jamie would not feature in the end game. I recall saying his doing so is not redemption to me.

Although quite frankly I didnt spend the past 2 years holding onto this so perhaps I am mistaken. Perhaps you should go find the posts that support your claim that I said something that has been proven wrong.
My opinion was proven right long ago, when the writers themselves stated Jamie was on a redemption arc
 

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thanks for the predictions, guys. NOT

So it's predictions you want?

No, he specifically said he did not want them. Is that going to stop this guy, hell no!

Assuming the answer was yes..........................

An there was the prediction no one asked for, and was actually asked not to predict.


I love the enthusiasm Ncog, but I have never seen a guy quote himself so many times, and answer his own questions. You don't really need anyone else posting ITT.

Mods, could you change the thread title to Ncog's stream of consciousness thread.
 

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Your opinion hasn't been proven right. I dont recall ever claiming that Jamie would not feature in the end game. I recall saying his doing so is not redemption to me.

Although quite frankly I didnt spend the past 2 years holding onto this so perhaps I am mistaken. Perhaps you should go find the posts that support your claim that I said something that has been proven wrong.
Look for Bran to defend Jaime at his trial. He'll tell all the Kingslayer slayed the Mad King because the Mad King was about to "Burn them all". Jaime will go on to save some lives, specifically Stark lives. Indications he will save Arya in the initial battle and it's almost a certainty he saves Bran's as well. His arch is complete when he again saves millions as he chokes the life out of his sister as, she too, gives the order to burn them all after KL is easily overtaken by the Dany/Jon Alied powers.
 

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