Game of Thrones Thread

[Warrior Spirit]

I agree and hope like hell most everything is wrong within that spoiler tag. What concerns me is this reddit poster had posts dated back 5 months ago that nailed what would happen in episode three, that is the only reason I even give it a thought.

Who's the poster? Further investigation required. Can't believe anyone nailed that episode. Makes other stuff he mentioned about the end game scary as hell cause I hate every bit of it.

 

[remydat]

Why did the plan go to hell?
Because Dany wanted revenge, essentially. Shortly after the horde was extinguished, the dragon queen was pissed, and immediately took to the skies to rain fire on the zombies.

“Dany can’t bring herself to just watch [the Dothraki] die,” Weiss explained. “So the plan starts to fall apart the second she gets on her dragon.”

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/game-of-thrones-burning-questions-battle-of-winterfell-1203199889/

If this doesn't further cement the stupidity of sending the Dothraki in alone then don't know what does. Dany can't bring herself to watch the Dothraki die yet she agreed to such a stupid fucking plan in the first place?

 

[remydat]

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-t...ttle-winterfell-daenerys-targaryen-long-night

https://www.wired.com/story/game-of-thrones-winterfell-battle-tactical-analysis/

And a couple of good articles about the stupidity of the plan.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Why did the plan go to hell?
Because Dany wanted revenge, essentially. Shortly after the horde was extinguished, the dragon queen was pissed, and immediately took to the skies to rain fire on the zombies.

“Dany can’t bring herself to just watch [the Dothraki] die,” Weiss explained. “So the plan starts to fall apart the second she gets on her dragon.”

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/game-of-thrones-burning-questions-battle-of-winterfell-1203199889/

If this doesn't further cement the stupidity of sending the Dothraki in alone then don't know what does. Dany can't bring herself to watch the Dothraki die yet she agreed to such a stupid fucking plan in the first place?

That’s why I’m starting to believe she won’t be queen

 

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[nc0gnet0]

I see what you're reading, but I genuinely do not recall the show with any Dothraki or Dany or anyone actually saying she was inheriting 100k Dothraki.

Later in that wiki:

"In the A Song of Ice and Fire novels, the Dothraki are numerous and are divided into large hordes or khalasars which range over vast areas. Khal Drogo's khalasar consists of 40,000 warriors and is said to be unusually large. "

Drogo had 40,000 and his khalasar was "unusually large"... so who the **** put 100k together and bent the knee to Dany?

It doesn't add up to me, nor did it appear she had 100k at the battle, that would be 10x the Dothraki as compared to the Unsullied... there's no way 100k of them were there, they would have dwarfed the entire army 3-4 times over.

But didn't I say 20k?

 

[nc0gnet0]

Good article, but very disputed in the comment section.

"This is wrong. Its about 40,000 Dothraki bloodriders, The rest are woman, Children, Old Folk. Approx 60,000"

"There were no other large Khals when Drogo was boss. This is stated in the extra content on DvDs specials. When his horde dismantled. Several other Khals rose."

Those other Kahls she burned had what was Drogo's army, Dany got the old gang back together. So 40,000, mostly dead Dothraki, I doubt 5% survived, those horses running back looked empty. What a messed up trip North for the Dothraki, no gold, no raping, just dying out in the cold, gee thanks Khaleesi.

Your not following the discussion, I had said Dany should have had about 20-30K dothraki at WF. (my estimate) When
Ares questioned this, I said some accounts had her bringing over as many as 100k from Essos, so I thought my estimate was conservative.

At no part during the discussion did I attempt to guess how many dothraki Dany had left after the battle at WF.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Depending on the camera angle and the lighting of the shot, it could have been almost any number of riders, well not 100,000, but any realistic number. I got the impression they were trying to make it look like the Dothraki made up the largest part of Dany's/Jon's armies. Which would mean whatever the number was before the battle, it's less than half that now.

Hell, I would say it less than 25%

 

[nc0gnet0]

All numbers mentioned seem high compared to what we've seen on screen. Are we to believe they were completely wiped out now even though Jorah and Ghost who went with them didn't go down with them? Seems like they're just trying to give Cersei an advantage to make her seem like more of a threat.

Lol, Army numbers are always what the show writers decided they want for a particular battle, and always seem to change.

For instance, in the books, and even in the first part of the show, the Golden Company is only 10k strong, but last year D & D give them a boost to 20k because it fit their needs.

 

[number51]

Your not following the discussion,
At no part during the discussion did I attempt to guess how many dothraki Dany had left after the battle at WF.

You are missing the point, I guessed 5% survived, I didn't ask nor do I care about your guess.

 

[number51]

Hell, I would say it less than 25%

You're still not getting it. 5% < 25%

 

[nc0gnet0]

Why did the plan go to hell?
Because Dany wanted revenge, essentially. Shortly after the horde was extinguished, the dragon queen was pissed, and immediately took to the skies to rain fire on the zombies.

“Dany can’t bring herself to just watch [the Dothraki] die,” Weiss explained. “So the plan starts to fall apart the second she gets on her dragon.”

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/game-of-thrones-burning-questions-battle-of-winterfell-1203199889/

If this doesn't further cement the stupidity of sending the Dothraki in alone then don't know what does. Dany can't bring herself to watch the Dothraki die yet she agreed to such a stupid fucking plan in the first place?

It was a parallel too Jon at the BotB.

 

[nc0gnet0]

You are missing the point, I guessed 5% survived, I didn't ask nor do I care about your guess.

The quote I replied to of yours specifically said this

"Which would mean whatever the number was before the battle, it's less than half that now. "

If your going to add your worthless two cents into a conversation, at least know what the conversation is about. It's not that hard.

this is what I said

"I agree with this, WF was by far the best place to make a stand. Too bad they didn't have more time to prepare though. I also think they underestimated the size of the wight force, and that might have a lot to do with the Dothraki decision. I mean, 20-30K Dothraki should do quite a bit of damage to 100k mindless zombies, if each were to kill 3-4 wights before dying, the wights are nearly wiped out. "

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[fatbeard]

It was a parallel too Jon at the BotB.

Those Targaryans got da Fire and da Passion.

 

[number51]

The quote I replied to of yours specifically said this

"Which would mean whatever the number was before the battle, it's less than half that now. "

Read better I said "So 40,000, mostly dead Dothraki, I doubt 5% survived " so < 5% of Dothraki survived.

Then referring to the combined Dany/Jon army "I got the impression they were trying to make it look like the Dothraki made up the largest part of Dany's/Jon's armies. Which would mean whatever the number was before the battle, it's less than half that now."

Entire army, less that halve left.

Really man, stop trying to get a gotcha, it's killing your reading comprehension skills.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Read better I said "So 40,000, mostly dead Dothraki, I doubt 5% survived " so < 5% of Dothraki survived.

Then referring to the combined Dany/Jon army "I got the impression they were trying to make it look like the Dothraki made up the largest part of Dany's/Jon's armies. Which would mean whatever the number was before the battle, it's less than half that now."

Entire army, less that halve left.

Really man, stop trying to get a gotcha, it's killing your reading comprehension skills.

"Depending on the camera angle and the lighting of the shot, it could have been almost any number of riders, well not 100,000, but any realistic number. I got the impression they were trying to make it look like the Dothraki made up the largest part of Dany's/Jon's armies. Which would mean whatever the number was before the battle, it's less than half that now. "

It's not my reading comprehension that sucks, it's your ability to formulate a coherent thought. the above can be taken any number of ways, instead of clarifying you went for the gotcha moment, not me.

 

[nc0gnet0]

The Vale should have had 10-15k men, and now way were there that many vale soldiers there either. Dany's remaining army will be whatever D & D want it to be to take on Cersei. I guess they can explain this by saying a small part of the Dothraki and Vale soldiers were left at Dragonstone or the Eerie?

 

[nc0gnet0]

Who's the poster? Further investigation required. Can't believe anyone nailed that episode. Makes other stuff he mentioned about the end game scary as hell cause I hate every bit of it.

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[BNB]

It seems like the GOT people picked Arya to kill the Night King and not George RR Martin.

"While the show creators were mum on Arya’s mystical lineage, they knew for a total of three years that she would be the one to end the long night. “We hoped to kind of avoid the expected, and Jon Snow has always been the hero, the one who’s been the savior,” co-showrunner David Benioff explained in the post-show extras. “But it just didn’t seem right to us for this moment.” "

So either Martin said Snow was the one who kills the Night King and the creators of the show just wanted to do something different, or Martin said he doesn't know yet and the show creators just decided it would be Arya.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the book.

 

[BNB]

I'm kinda curious at the point of bringing John Snow back from death if he wasn't the one to kill the NK. I get that Arya been training for this her whole life but what's John's purpose now?

I thought the same thing.

Maybe his purpose was to bring everyone together for the kill to even happen? But then, if he fulfilled his purpose, why is he still alive?