Game of Thrones Thread

[Ares]

Is everyone just saying this like it is something that will happen because some ass hat on reddit said it, or is it for some other reason?

It is one of these prophesy things from the books, I believe.

When Dany is in Qarth someone (House of the Undying?) tells her she will endure 3 betrayals.

She has endured two supposedly, so the third one must be coming, and people think Tyrion will be the one to betray her.

I personally imagine Varys betraying her if anyone.

 

[Ares]

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-three-treasons-that-Daenerys-was-warned-of

Many of the events foretold at the House of the Undying have not yet come to pass, and with the very vague nature of this particular set of prophecies, we don't know clearly what the three treasons are. I am not exactly sure that we will be able to come to a conclusion even at the end of the series. But we can always speculate.

…three heads has the dragon… the ghost chorus yammered inside her skull with never a lip moving, never a breath stirring the still blue air… mother of dragons… child of storm… The whispers became a swirling song… three fires must you light… one for life and one for death and one to love… Her own heart was beating in unison to the one that floated before her, blue and corrupt… three mounts must you ride… one to bed and one to dread and one to love… The voices were growing louder, she realized, and it seemed her heart was slowing, and even her breath… three treasons will you know… once for blood and once for gold and once for love…

I think we should take the three prophecies-of-three-things together, and go with the assumption that they may refer to events from the past as well as the future.

• Three Fires - One for life, one for death, and one to love.
• Three Mounts - One to bed, one to dread, and one to love.
• Three Treasons - Once for blood, once for gold, and once for love.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Knights of the Vale went North to help Jon/Sansa... only places they would be is Winterfell or The Vale, unless there was some offscreen meeting of Dany with Lords of the Vale where they agreed to keep troops in reserve on Dragonstone.

The Eyrie is the Castle in the Vale.......

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

So for love for a long time we assumed Jorah but when he betrayed her it was for gold. The betrayal for blood the slave witch she let turn drogo to a zombie. So maybe the love betrayal is John hmmmm

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bjjjjj
Brother sent me this lol

 

[Ares]

The Eyrie is the Castle in the Vale.......

I know, I chose to say The Vale rather than The Eyrie because every knight/man-at-arms in their Kingdom doesn't hangout with Robin Arryn in the Eyrie itself.

My main point was I see no evidence Dany would have somehow gotten Knights of the Vale from Winterfell or The Vale (Eyrie) to Dragonstone.

 

[Ares]

So for love for a long time we assumed Jorah but when he betrayed her it was for gold. The betrayal for blood the slave witch she let turn drogo to a zombie. So maybe the love betrayal is John hmmmm

That's a good notion but in theory the betrayal is for the given thing.

Jorah betrayed her to get gold

Witch betrayed her in the name of blood or to get "blood" I suppose.

John betrays her for love? Like he loves someone else?

Or perhaps his betrayal is figurative... like he promises he won't die, but sacrifices himself to save her because he loves her.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Kills his love for his family-assuming Dany wants to hurt one of the starks

I know it’s not his legit family now that we have facts but there is so much damn foreshadowing. So I look to what bran was saying to Theon which is no matter what we are/were family. Even Jon called Ned our father to Theon although that was before he found out his lineage

My brother threw me a twist the betrayal might be someone involving all 3.....but who could that be?

 

[Ares]

What about Grey Worm.... betraying Dany for love (Missandei)...

Seems unlikely, but it is there.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

That's a good notion but in theory the betrayal is for the given thing.

Jorah betrayed her to get gold

Witch betrayed her in the name of blood or to get "blood" I suppose.

John betrays her for love? Like he loves someone else?

Or perhaps his betrayal is figurative... like he promises he won't die, but sacrifices himself to save her because he loves her.

Spoiler

Or maybe Tyrion betrays her for the love of his family.

 

[Ares]

Spoiler

Or maybe Tyrion betrays her for the love of his family.

Not sure that is Spoiler... it has been posited over and over again.

 

[number51]

Kills his love for his family-assuming Dany wants to hurt one of the starks

I know it’s not his legit family now that we have facts but there is so much damn foreshadowing. So I look to what bran was saying to Theon which is no matter what we are/were family. Even Jon called Ned our father to Theon although that was before he found out his lineage

My brother threw me a twist the betrayal might be someone involving all 3.....but who could that be?

Why, because his mom was a Stark instead of his dad? He is a blood relation to them and he was raised with them, Jon is a hell of a lot more of a Stark than Theon ever was. Jon is not killing Dany, no intentional betrayal, the closest thing will be what @Ares said earlier.

Or perhaps his betrayal is figurative... like he promises he won't die, but sacrifices himself to save her because he loves her.

Jon is a fucking boy scout, if they blow that up and turn him into a villain at the very end that will be show breaking, stupid, and really piss off the fans.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Not sure that is Spoiler... it has been posited over and over again.

I don't play that game.

 

[Ares]

I don't play that game.

I demand you play that game

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I demand you play that game

You don't scare me.

 

[Ares]

You don't scare me.

Well I tried

 

[nc0gnet0]

See my last post.... they diverged from him because his story had way too many threads to follow in a TV show.

But as a writer, I can tell you, it would rustle the **** outta me.... I would be irritated they were butchering my story in some aspects and have the attitude "You guys wanted to take over and rip it apart, you finish it"

In all fairness, Grrm had agreed to have the books finished before D & D caught up to him. It was GRRM that didn't meet those deadlines that forced D & D to finish the story on their own. GRRM has only himself to blame.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I totally agree. If I was George I would be pissed off too. TBH if i saw my baby get torn apart on TV like this I would not have very much motivation to finish the books either. That's why I think HBO or the writers or somebody should have tried to keep George as involved as possible from the beginning so when they get to this point they can lean on him for advice and not get caught with their pants down and sticky fingers. I get that condensing his stories into a show would be difficult but they definitely should have beeb able to do better than this crap.

Then GRRM should have finished the books. I don't think a 70 year old Arya in a wheelchair would have looked right taking out the NK, do you?

 

[nc0gnet0]

IDK if they could force RR Martin to drop the manuscripts though. They could have at least ran some major plot points and character development ideas by George to get an opinion of somebody who knows what they are doing

They did and he complied, that is common knowledge.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Then GRRM should have finished the books. I don't think a 70 year old Arya in a wheelchair would have looked right taking out the NK, do you?

I agree. George should have finished the books before signing off on a TV show or at the very least given a very clear and well thoughout vision for how he was going to end the series so shit like this would not happen. Part of it is o George and part of it is on the writers for having 0 talent